Send NAPS Questions This Way

[AquaRain_2009]

Hey Guys,

Sorry I haven't been around for a while but NAPS has kept me busy. For any of you NAPSters for the Class of 2011 or parents with any questions about life in Newport or NAPS or the CO/SEL Sittuation, or any other questions post them.
Thanks.

[SAMom]

Thanks will keep that in mind!!! I guess one question is what will NAPS send to us once we accept!!! We have accepted, but haven't heard anything.

[WannabeaMid]

I was wondering about that as well, because all I ever received was the "Certificate of Intent to Attend the Naval Academy Preparatory School" -- which I sent in,-- and a letter from the Dean saying ..." we are pleased to notify you that the Admissions Board has selected you to attend the Naval Academy Preparatory School (NAPS) in Newport, Rhode Island, in the class convening July 2010...etc"

I'm starting to get a little "worried" whether they might have sent something and I haven't received anything yet...

[Treetrunk]

Same here....

[AquaRain_2009]

When you accept NAPS, you will recieve some paperwork in anywhere from mid April to early June detailing what you should bring (DO NOT BRING EVERYTHING ON THE LIST), when you should show up (DO NOT SHOW UP EARLY, BE ON TIME WHEN THE PAPER SAYS) or else you will not be in the best sittuation for Indoc. Eventually, the Academy will get back to you on these things and if they don't, DO NOT be afraid to call and ask.

[NavIss58]

AquaRain, I am curious, can you tell us when to expect to arrive? Does NAPS convene in early July like the Academy?

I guess I'm also asking if M/C's go through a 'plebe' type summer program for three months prior to the start of the academic year? And then again when (if) they make it to the Academy?

Do you know how that works?

[pknguyen44]

they start indoc during the last week in july and 3 weeks as opposed to the academys 6 weeks plebe summer..expect to be yelled at a lot the first day and having deer in the headlights look..:eek:

[NavIss58]

then they must have an 'early start' to the academic year in late-August (as opposed to early-September)? Or time off?

BTW, AquaRain, can you tell me what capacity you hold regarding NAPS? You're tagged out of Washington State. Are you a professor, administrator, student?

[navy_clarinet_mom]

NAPS academic year has started the academic year the same as USNA for the past couple of years. There is no time off and they are not allowed to leave the base on any liberty until Labor Day at the earliest and no overnights until at least Parent Weekend.

I think from a previous statement that AquaRain is a student at NAPS and if that is the case then he/she might be slower in responding right now as they are in the middle of finals for the second trimester. (Good luck on those AquaRain).

[AquaRain_2009]

Sorry I've been slow to reply. Finals have kept me and the Batallion busy but I'll try to respond more once they are over.
Yes I am a student at NAPS and Indoc begins during the last week of July. Note: DO NOT SHOW UP EARLY. If you do this, you will make a bad impression on the staff and you do not want to do this, especially the day before Indoc. You DO NOT want to be known by the Staff by name on the first day. After Indoc, there is a little bit of liberty but you will have to be back with the day until Parents Weekend when overnights are allowed but these depend upon your grades.

[Capt MJ]

Sorry I've been slow to reply. Finals have kept me and the Batallion busy but I'll try to respond more once they are over.
Yes I am a student at NAPS and Indoc begins during the last week of July. Note: DO NOT SHOW UP EARLY. If you do this, you will make a bad impression on the staff and you do not want to do this, especially the day before Indoc. You DO NOT want to be known by the Staff by name on the first day. After Indoc, there is a little bit of liberty but you will have to be back with the day until Parents Weekend when overnights are allowed but these depend upon your grades.

:shake::shake::shake:
I had to laugh at this. Good rule of thumb - never show up early in the military where it's any kind of "welcome to life in uniform" situation. Back in the last century, when my orders read "report no later than 1700," I figured I'd "check in" early, get my stuff sorted and look around. I was the only one being marched around and shouted at, for hours, it seemed. When did the prior enlisted show up? 1650, of course.

Good luck, AquaRain, it's kind of you to offer "current NAPSter" advice.

[NavIss58]

Thanks, I wasn't clear. What I meant was earlier than some civilian colleges, even then later thought that many start earlier or later than the others anyway, so...doesn't much matter. It'll start when it starts. I was sure that they won't be getting much leave so I refrained from asking that one.

DS will survive a good dose of someone else telling him to clean up his room and study! :yllol: He'll be okay. :thumb:

Hope all is well for you AquaRain.

[AquaRain_2009]

Thanks guys. Just trying to help the future NAPSters out.
Oh biggest chunk of advice: DON'T GIVE UP. Seriously, there will be days, Note: Not just one, but several where YOU WILL want to sign your DOR papers and turn them into your SEL. I had one of those yesterday. My platoon is super lazy and I just got sick of it. But my Chief, who is the best Chief, asked me if I wanted to let other people crush my dream?
Ask yourself this before you sign those papers? It's a good question.
Are you really going to let somone's lack of motivation kill your dream of becoming that Naval Aviator? Or someone calling you stupid, just because you shine your boots and arrive on time to mandatory events is going to make you quit trying to be a Marine Corps Infantry Officer? Or if no one listens to you as a Striper because they don't want to follow your orders to clean the ladderwell, you're just going to stop trying to be a Navy SEAL?
Your answer should be "NO". NO, NO, and fully, NO. If you really want to accomplish your dreams in the Navy and/or the Marine Corps, nothing and nobody should stop you. Yes, there will be haters and nay sayers even with you at NAPS and the USNA, but don't let them bring you down. Just think, one day it will work out so one of two things happen:

1.) They work for you while you're at the same rank

OR

2.)You'll out rank them and then, they'll have to call you "Mam"/"Sir" at the end of every sentence. (LOL)

[WannabeaMid]

I guess I have a question:

What is life like at NAPS? I have a small sense of what it is like at USNA because I went to Summer Seminar, but I want to know what it is like at NAPS!

[NavIss58]

...and I was wondering what opportunities there are to interact with the other school on campus, and the other personnel or officers while attending NAPS.

Can you speak on that topic at all?
Thanks

[AquaRain_2009]

I guess I have a question:

What is life like at NAPS? I have a small sense of what it is like at USNA because I went to Summer Seminar, but I want to know what it is like at NAPS!

That's a good question. NAPS life is very structured. Indoc is basically boot camp. You live in shorts and a t shirt for about a month and are under the instruction of your detailers from the USNA.
But once this is over, NAPSters are in charge of NAPSters. The transisition can be rough but it is a necessary to practice leadership of your peers which you will be leading out in the Fleet.
Here is the current schedule I follow in the daily POD (Plan of the Day)

0600 Reveille
0600-0715 Morning Meal
0630 Duty Platoon Muster
0645-0715 Clean Up
0700 Restriction Muster
0730 Morning Formation
0740-1145 Classes
0800 Morning Colors
1150-1255 Noon Meal
1240 Restriction Muster
1300-1415 Classes
1415-1530 Personalized Instruction
1600-1730 Sports Period
1727 Evening Colors
1745-1830 Evening Colors
1850 Academic Muster
1900-2200 Evening Study
2145 Restriction Muster
2200 Online Muster
2200 - 2300 Personal Time
2300 TAPS

This is basically how your life goes for 10 months at NAPS. This routine does get tiresome but you get usted to it and sometimes it does change up which is nice.

[AquaRain_2009]

...and I was wondering what opportunities there are to interact with the other school on campus, and the other personnel or officers while attending NAPS.

Can you speak on that topic at all?
Thanks

Definetly. Your Company Officers are there to help you answer questions and they will or they will send you to someone they know can give you the answer. Same goes for the SEL's assigned to each company. (SEL - Senior Enlisted Leader)
You can also talk to other officers at other schools if you get a sponsor. The Sponsors are other SEL's and Officers assigned to different schools on Naval Station Newport (Naval War College, Naval Senior Enlisted Academy, Naval Justice School, Surface Warfarce Officer School, ect.) Your Sponsor basically provides you with a fun non NAPS enviorment away from NAPS (YOU WANT A SPONSOR, trust me) You're allowed to go to their house and chill and be a kid for a few hours and ask them questions about their careers and such. It's a really good oppourtunity I highly advise future NAPSters to take advantage of.

[SAMom]

What is restriction muster and I heard they were cracking down on home work problems what do you know about that?

[HM3ACE]

what percentage of NAPS would you say is made up of enlisted members? Is that good or bad? Oh, and what would happen if an enlisted member chose not to attend the USNA after NAPS, would they just get sent back to the fleet? last question, have you ever heard of an enlisted member apply to NROTC from NAPS instead of going to USNA?

[AquaRain_2009]

What is restriction muster and I heard they were cracking down on home work problems what do you know about that?

Restriction Muster is when Restrictees (Midshipman Candidates who have broken a rule within the Regulations and have been put on punishment) go down to the Quarterdeck and are counted. They have to wear a "Red Badge of Courage", give up their ID's, cell phone, and liberty and are made to do the following, serve "X" amount of days of restriction, march tours with a rubber rifle early in the morning before Reville, and do musters throughout the day along with the regular musters along with cleaning projects posibly which are assigned by the Executive Officer of NAPS.

As for homework problems, they are cracking down on those. We have 3 hours of mandatory study 6 days of the week and for anyone with a GPA less than 2.0 they have less liberty and they have mandatory supervised study in the Academic Center while other members of the Batallion can study in their rooms if they choose.

[AquaRain_2009]

what percentage of NAPS would you say is made up of enlisted members? Is that good or bad? Oh, and what would happen if an enlisted member chose not to attend the USNA after NAPS, would they just get sent back to the fleet? last question, have you ever heard of an enlisted member apply to NROTC from NAPS instead of going to USNA?

In this class of NAPS the Priors make up 5% of the Batallion and they are helpful and important to the Batallion. I honestly wish there were more Priors here because they help us (non Priors) out so much with all aspects of life at NAPS such as Indoc, academics, athletics, health,ect.
I haven't heard of a Prior choosing NROTC after NAPS instead of going to USNA but I would come up to NAPS and visit before making the decision to come here or talk to other Priors who have been or are at NAPS.

[Neoseeker99]

hi! im a little new, but my status on DoDmerb suddenly has a new addition:

SubAgency: APNAP

What exactly does this mean?

[cheers]

Sounds like you are receiving a NAPS appointment. Congrats!

[SAMom]

What about a schedule of the 3 weeks when they first get there as the Naval Academy calls in Plebe summer not sure what its called for NAPS?

[AquaRain_2009]

[QUOTE=SAMom;96343]What about a schedule of the 3 weeks when they first get there as the Naval Academy calls in Plebe summer not sure what its called for NAPS?[/QUOTE

The first three weeks is called INDOC and the schedule for that isn't really structured. It is boot camp. Plain and simple.

[SAMom]

Ok my daughter wasn't sure if there was a schedule the 3 weeks of boot camp for I doc do you think its anything like USNA and how do you feel about having to kind of do it again? It would be cool to hear what you think once you go though it over at USNA!!!

[navy_clarinet_mom]

what percentage of NAPS would you say is made up of enlisted members? Is that good or bad? Oh, and what would happen if an enlisted member chose not to attend the USNA after NAPS, would they just get sent back to the fleet? last question, have you ever heard of an enlisted member apply to NROTC from NAPS instead of going to USNA?

Priors have to extend their current contract by two years if my memory is correct. If a prior decides to leave NAPS before graduation, they are returned to the fleet and usually not to their prior command.

[WannabeaMid]

This might in some other thread, but I can't find it.

So what percentages of NAPS students actually end up going to USNA afterwards?

[SAMom]

I think its like 96% not sure though!

[AquaRain_2009]

Ok my daughter wasn't sure if there was a schedule the 3 weeks of boot camp for I doc do you think its anything like USNA and how do you feel about having to kind of do it again? It would be cool to hear what you think once you go though it over at USNA!!!

I feel okay about doing it again. It's just something I have to do to get to becoming a Midshipman and an Officer in the Marine Corps or the Navy. The only difference is that its 7 weeks instead of 3 but it should be easier because NAPS has already put me through alot of the "shock" period the high schoolers are going to go through.
I'll keep you all posted though once September comes aroun though.:smile:

[AquaRain_2009]

This might in some other thread, but I can't find it.

So what percentages of NAPS students actually end up going to USNA afterwards?

Roughly I'd say anywhere from Low 80%- High 90%. It depends on the Voluntary and Involuntary Dismissal of Midshipman Candidates per class as well as those who complete NAPS but decide to not attend the USNA.

[mejmichael]

I'm new to this as well. I got accepted to NAPS November 4. Does anyone know when INDOC will begin?

[navy_clarinet_mom]

NAPS calendar for the next class has not been published yet. You can plan for last week of July/first week of August as a good time frame though.

[SAMom]

Has anyone gotten any paper work back yet after sending in acceptance letter???

[mejmichael]

I have not received anything as well. When I called the Admissions Office they told me that we would be receiving papers in mid-April or sometime in the Spring.

[navy_clarinet_mom]

Typically the next paperwork you would get will be a letter advising you of the Candidate Information Packet being available for download and the link for that. This is usually not available until after the current class graduates and this year that is June 4th so I would not look for it before then but each year is always just a little different.

[mdsu]

why would someone go to NAPS and then decide not to go to USNA. Didn't they get into NAPS because they were lacking one thing but they showed admissions that USNA is deep down their place in this world?

[navy_clarinet_mom]

Just as there are those that get appointments to USNA and once there decide that for whatever reason that was not the best fit for their life, the same is true at NAPS. It does happen and there will be those that will DOR from NAPS through the year and those that will complete the year but decide to move on to a traditional college or they have decided that they no longer want to be an officer and will enlist.

[Maximus]

why would someone go to NAPS and then decide not to go to USNA. Didn't they get into NAPS because they were lacking one thing but they showed admissions that USNA is deep down their place in this world?

It's the same thing for USMAPS and the answer is: they didn't like the lifestyle after living in the life for a year, not for them.

[mejmichael]

I read that there about 300 people that go to NAPS. I also heard that about 92% get into USNA. Are these true?

[navy_clarinet_mom]

Mejmichael most will tell you that when you are at NAPS it is "2.0 and go" that is for the most part true. Keep in mind that the appointment is yours to lose. You will need to get a positive recommendation from the CO at NAPS so just remember to not do anything that could jeopardize that and keep your academics in positive standing and you should be good.

I am not sure where the 92% comes from unless it is taking into account those that start at the beginning of the year and then those that are offered appointments.

[navy_clarinet_mom]

Not sure where your 92% is coming from but numbers from my daughter's class at NAPS (class of 2008) here are the numbers.

Regarding the NAPS Class of 2008, they started with 271 in the class and graduated 200. Last year there were Coast Guard prep students attending. There were 10 Coasties that started and 7 that graduated.

For the USNA side at NAPS, there were 193 that officially graduated and there were 217 appointments given. Of those 217 appointments only 202 accepted and reported for I-Day minus 2 on June 30th.

The appointments offered are only about 83% for USNA with a 77% acceptance of the appointments from those that started.

I also know that NAPS started with 284 all USNA candidates for Class of 2009 and the current class started with 307 all USNA candidates.

[Just_A_Mom]

why would someone go to NAPS and then decide not to go to USNA.

recruited athletes are sometimes recruited away from USNA while at NAPS. The year at NAPS doesn't count as a year in college so athletes retain all their elibibility. For instance, after the NAPS football season a football player can be recruited by another college.

[goldfarb1]

recruited athletes are sometimes recruited away from USNA while at NAPS. The year at NAPS doesn't count as a year in college so athletes retain all their elibibility. For instance, after the NAPS football season a football player can be recruited by another college.

I read a stat that says that the graduation rate for NAPS football players was 67% at a high point in the recent history.

[aglages]

I read a stat that says that the graduation rate for NAPS football players was 67% at a high point in the recent history.
Any stats on the graduation rate of non-football players?

[goldfarb1]

Any stats on the graduation rate of non-football players?

No idea. The 67 percent was from an article about when the football coach at NAPS switched over to SUNY Maritime. The article stated that the coaches highlight wast that he had a record high graduation rate for football. This was a couple years ago, so I imagine things have changed.

[NavyMom15]

Hello, I had a questions about NAPsters when they graduate from NAPS.

Why is it that NAPsters must report to the Naval Academy a day or two before I-Day? What do they do during I-Day while everyone else is reporting?

[NorthernCalMother]

My son went to NAPS in '06-07, and I believe he said a lot of what NAPSters did involved distribution of stuff. Plebes are issued a ton of uniforms and materials on I-Day, and orchestrating distribution takes a lot of arms and legs. I think they had some herding and navigating responsibilities, too.

[Goingtosea]

NavyMom15, your Napster will be told to report two days before the High Schoolers' I-Day for their own I-Day experience. They are not there as additional arms and legs and won't be moving stuff around for the detailers at all. If anything their movement through I-Day is to make sure all systems are working, and if not, corrected so that the larger group coming in moves through smoothly. Your Napster may get Liberty (restricted to the Town of Annapolis only) their first night. And once processed will have some time to get into the routine. It's a real benefit.

[js3486]

I know the academy does not accept these course for credit but do other institutions accept the course work at NAPS for college credit in the event the student chooses not to go onto Annapolis or fails to get an appointment?

[OklahomaDad]

The Admissions Board sent a letter of appointment "contingent upon completion of all remaining admissions documents" to NAPS on 02-16-10. Certificate of intent to attend was mailed on 02-23-10. The DoDMERB mailed us a letter of Qualified Status on 3-18-10.

I am assuming from reading others statements that we should expect a packet from NAPS with more formal acceptance paperwork and a background check? How long should we wait for this before calling the admissions board?

THANKS!!

[navy_clarinet_mom]

In the past, the formal candidate packet for NAPS was not made available until early June. It is generally after Comissioning Week at USNA and graduation of the current class at NAPS. This year's NAPS class does not graduate until the first Friday of June.

[js3486]

Will NAPS Students be required to retake the SAT or ACT during the year they are there?

[Tommygun]

They have not this year.

[js3486]

Out of curiosity can someone tell me what the Civilian close policy is at NAPS? I know USNA plebes do not have that privilege unless on leave. Is that the case at NAPS or are civies authorized on liberty presumably like A-School after you have earned the privilege?

Also the NWU, is that something subsequent classes Will wear at the academy in lieu of Khakis or the Green (USMC style) Camo Dungarees? Once again just out of curiosity.

[js3486]

Ok At Naps are the M/C separated in to duty sections? If so how many?

[mejmichael]

Can someone explain what the general schedule will be like at NAPS. For example I heard that we start off with 6 or so weeks of boot camp and from then I think we would start our academic courses. Can someone clarify that up for me? Oh and what vacation times do we get in NAPS?

[NavIss58]

Here is a link to the clothing policy http://www.usna.edu/NAPS/napsStudentInfo.htm

NAPS Parents Page http://www.usna.com/naps/

and this is probably the best resource in the mean time http://www.usna.com/NAPS/handbook/handbook.html

[stingre]

NAPS is filled. When does USNA fill Foundation Prep School spots....or are they filled too?

[hsjude]

Stingre, how do you know NAPS is filled?

[stingre]

don't know....but all twe's state not offering to usna or naps....maybe it's not filled. anyone know status of foundation?

[js3486]

Ok so You guys that are not prior service enlist as e-1s how much is deducted from your pay and for how long presumably to repay uniform costs etc.

[navy_clarinet_mom]

Remember that NAPS and Foundation programs are traditionally for those that are in need of academic strengthening. This is really specific to NAPS. If you are going strickly on the TWEs that are being sent out then you need to go look at each individual that received those to see if they were scholastically qualified. If they received such notification at any point during the application process then they would not be eligible for NAPS.

NAPS will have a waiting list just like USNA does. I do know that those who have been offered NAPS appointments have until May 1st to accept or decline that appointment. After that, then they will go back to the waiting list to offer additional slots until the class is full. There are a limited number of slots at NAPS due to housing abilities though, but that number for the class is just over 300.

For what it is worth, our daughter did not receive a TWE from USNA but rather the Blue Folder with her NAPS appointment. She got hers around this time of year as well.

[Napster2010]

Ok so You guys that are not prior service enlist as e-1s how much is deducted from your pay and for how long presumably to repay uniform costs etc.

For those with deducted e-1 pay they get payed roughly 300 every two weeks and it's usually payed off before spring break.

[Napster2010]

Can someone explain what the general schedule will be like at NAPS. For example I heard that we start off with 6 or so weeks of boot camp and from then I think we would start our academic courses. Can someone clarify that up for me? Oh and what vacation times do we get in NAPS?

It's about 23 days of indoc probably the easiest thing I ever did with no sense of accomplisment at the end. july 28 - aug 19

You do the same thing every day causing you to have a distorted perception of time and you start to give off an aura of apathy.

Could be different next year.

christmas is 13 days
spring break is a week
long weekend for certain days I.E. thanks giving

I have no faith in VADM Fowler to make logical decisions anymore from what I have seen at NAPS

NAPS has made me bitter towards the naval academy and their double standard for athletes and minorities. I now feel like I am going to the academy just for the commission and not to disappoint others. However the institution does have a lot of opportunities.

[mejmichael]

Why do you say there's no sense of accomplishment? And what do you mean by an aura of apathy?

[Napster2010]

You would imagine boot camp or indoc to be difficult right? Wrong it has been made less stressful so those who cant hack it remain I.E. the star athlete who never worked a day in his life. It was more like a summer fun camp with some yelling here and there. I felt like a joke when it was over and they handed me my naps pins.

When I say apathy I mean I dont care if someone was to approach me right now and tell me i cant go to the academy. I know it is the chance of a life time but the enthusiasm just isnt there.

[Just_A_Mom]

NAPS has made me bitter towards the naval academy and their double standard for athletes and minorities. I now feel like I am going to the academy just for the commission and not to disappoint others. However the institution does have a lot of opportunities.

WRONG REASON

Seriously, you should re-think your motivation in going to USNA. If you don't want to be there then don't go. Find something else to do.
Will Mom & Dad be dissapointed - yep. Will they get over it - yep.
Time to grow up.

[Napster2010]

Every ounce of me wants to be in the military. Everything else seems mundane in comparison. It feels as USNA has lowered their standards and the impressive academy of the 1950's is no more. I know my parents would get over it if i left thats not my problem. The problem is the academy isn't using tax payer money to produce effective Military leaders but rather to fulfill politically correct agendas. Thats what bothers me most.

[Just_A_Mom]

Every ounce of me wants to be in the military. Everything else seems mundane in comparison. It feels as USNA has lowered their standards and the impressive academy of the 1950's is no more. I know my parents would get over it if i left thats not my problem. The problem is the academy isn't using tax payer money to produce effective Military leaders but rather to fulfill politically correct agendas. Thats what bothers me most.
Strong accusations from one who has yet to take the Oath as a MIDN.

Since you were not alive in the 50's how do you know what the selection process was and what the standards were?
Truth is - the academic qualifications of all the academies have increased tremendously over the past couple of decades.
Many of the academy mids who gained entrance in the 50's. 60's, 70's, 80's would not gain entrance today because they would not be "qualified". For example, thirty years ago hardly any high school student took calculus in high school. Now it is unusual not to.

The fact is kids who are entering college today are probably the highest quality cohort that has ever entered. If you have a problem with the Naval Academy admissions standards and your perceived quality of your future classmates then maybe USNA is not for you.

[Napster2010]

The accusations are strong and usna may not be for me but, I am open minded and willing to give it a chance.

[chiic]

Any chance that there is a choir, because if i can't sing, i might go insane, and could i bring an instrument?

[Napster2010]

There will never be a choir at NAPS but you can bring an instrument

[js3486]

There will never be a choir at NAPS but you can bring an instrument

They might be open to a Glee club if enough candidates are interested.

[Napster2010]

It is possible but the chances of that are borderline impossible.

[mejmichael]

How much muscle mass/body weight is gained/lost respecitvely during the summer at NAPS?

[NorthernCalMother]

My son's weight stayed exactly the same. He said some NAPS friends lost weight, while others gained (!) it, but he didn't. He'd intentionally lost pounds after his sr yr h.s. football season, and had done a lot of running as NAPS prep.

When we visited, we were impressed by all the appealing starchy food opportunities @ the food service. He stuck w/ healthy options. Wish I had his discipline!

[navymidshipman2015]

I'm curious; what uniforms are worn at NAPS?

[mejmichael]

Are Napsters allowed to wear contacts?

[navy_clarinet_mom]

mejmichael...only after INDOC is over. Not enough time during then to properly take care of them and you really do not want to risk getting an infection. You will be issued BCGs and will also need them for Plebe Summer at USNA so don't lose them.

[chiic]

I've enlisted and applied to my congressional reps, now how should i prepare. Is the Indoc hard? How hard are those test? What should i expect. Ive been running 2-4 miles at least 4 days a week, what else should i be doing. I want to do well on those tests so i can take the advanced classes; i want to validate a lot of classes at USNA. Anyway any advice would be appreciated. :confused:

[navy_clarinet_mom]

Be sure that you are not always running in the coolest part of the day. While it can get chilly up in Newport in the morning sometimes with the fog, you will be out at all times of the day so make sure that you are prepared for the sun and heat. Same will apply for your time between NAPS and USNA.

As far as the tests go, just do your best. Take this opportunity to challenge yourself and learn the necessary study skills and time management skills that will benefit you the most at USNA and in life.

[Napster2010]

Indoc is not hard and if you want to validate you are going to want to be in all advanced classes. Also depends on your reasons for going to naps which well affect how you handle the year. (I.E. free eduction. or to be in the military)

[priorenlisted]

Just a question, may sound dumb… on the Personal item checklist it says to bring 8 pairs of underclothes and 4 athletic supporters (males). When they say underclothes are the referring to white undershirts and underwear? For the athletic supporters are they referring to compression shorts or jock straps? Thanks for the help, AE3 (AW)

[mejmichael]

Is anyone else going to MEPS to enlst?

[navy_clarinet_mom]

Priorenlisted: Most NAPSters will wear the compression shorts. As far as the rest of the underclothes, you are not issued any white uniforms at NAPS. Last class wore the blue diggies to glass and were also issued SBDs. White T-shirts would be smart, but underwear can be a little less strict as long as it is not visible through the clothes. :wink:

Mejmichael: Everyone goes to the recruiter and then processing station according to their various region specifics for the swearing in portion. Most will go to MEPS just some may be a little different.

[mejmichael]

Has anyone found any flights that get to T F Green before 9:00 AM on July 27?

[navy_clarinet_mom]

Providence is a smaller airport. I do not know of anyone that arrives on the morning of I-Day up there. I would plan on getting there on Monday afternoon.

[chiic]

Has anyone found any flights that get to T F Green before 9:00 AM on July 27?
naw, im just going on monday

[WannabeaMid]

Same here. I'm going to NAPS on monday and staying overnight.

[SC Doc]

Does anybody know the dates for the parents weekend for sure? i need to find out because i am flying from overseas and the earlier i know the cheaper.

[navy_clarinet_mom]

October 8-11. This is a likely a 3-day weekend for them. If you can plan on arriving on Thurs afternoon/evening (Oct 7th) that will probably be better so that you will be available for the Pass In Review that is normally scheduled on Friday morning.

[dpt135]

Can you get an LOA to NAPS without an MOC nom? It seems by reading the thread some candidates were being accepted to NAPS before my MOC apps were even due.

[aglages]

It seems by reading the thread some candidates were being accepted to NAPS before my MOC apps were even due.
Which candidates were accepted to NAPS before your MOC apps were due?

[dpt135]

Reading back on some of the old threads it appeared candidates were receiving acceptance letter to NAPS in Sept. some Aug. Most MOC apps(at least in my state) aren't due until end of Oct. So I was assuming they did not have a MOC appointment yet. ?? I am going to go back and try and find some of those threads.

[Mongo]

Reading back on some of the old threads it appeared candidates were receiving acceptance letter to NAPS in Sept. some Aug. Most MOC apps(at least in my state) aren't due until end of Oct. So I was assuming they did not have a MOC appointment yet. ?? I am going to go back and try and find some of those threads.Attending NAPS requires neither a nomination nor an appointment.

[dpt135]

Thanks for the answer. I guess I am getting more anxious at time goes by . I am a candidate for the USNA. My app is good except for low ACT scores. So, I have withheld most of my application working to bring them up. Now, I regret not having my whole app in because maybe I would have had a chance at an LOA to NAPS. I would prefer a direct appointment,yet am trying to be realistic. Especially after seeing some of the quals of the USNA LOAs. GEE!

[NavIss58]

dpt135, not to drain your excitement, but you will NEVER receive a LOA to NAPS, they just don't exist. :frown: A letter of selection is though! :smile:

In fact, if an applicant has received a LOA, a letter of Academic Qualification, is 3Q'd, NAPS selection is no longer in play. NAPS selection is generally reserved for those applicants that the Academy would like to consider but do not have the academic qualifications for direct appointment. Hence, if you receive any of the qualifications necessary for direct appointment, then one is no longer eligible for selection to NAPS, you're swimming in a different pool. And a tougher one at that with seats offered limited to about 300. I'm not a numbers guy but I think that's even less odds.

On your other note, it's best to have one's application complete with test score at any level. An incomplete application does not get reviewed. You might as well not submit one. Having said that, the Admission Office recognizes that you can not submit all the required info at the same time, so the application gets built on as time goes by.

Just remember that other completed applications are being reviewed while you are waiting for 'just the right test scores'. Application supplementation with new and improved test scores, awards, letters of recommendation, etc. is expected and anticipated. But still, the application is not reviewed until it's complete (if anyone has contrary information pls share).

My DS submitted his application early and continued to submit new test scores and awards as they were received. The Board continued to review his application in context of the other applications being considered. His NAPS selection letter came 12-26.

Good luck and stay in the hunt!

[dpt135]

I guess I am confusing LOA and letter of selection. Last week, midshipman2015 announced they had been selected to NAPS. I just did not realize they starting handing out NAPS selections so early. Thanks for the advice.

[CL1VE]

dpt135, not to drain your excitement, but you will NEVER receive a LOA to NAPS, they just don't exist. :frown: A letter of selection is though! :smile:

In fact, if an applicant has received a LOA, a letter of Academic Qualification, is 3Q'd, NAPS selection is no longer in play. NAPS selection is generally reserved for those applicants that the Academy would like to consider but do not have the academic qualifications for direct appointment. Hence, if you receive any of the qualifications necessary for direct appointment, then one is no longer eligible for selection to NAPS, you're swimming in a different pool. And a tougher one at that with seats offered limited to about 300. I'm not a numbers guy but I think that's even less odds.

On your other note, it's best to have one's application complete with test score at any level. An incomplete application does not get reviewed. You might as well not submit one. Having said that, the Admission Office recognizes that you can not submit all the required info at the same time, so the application gets built on as time goes by.

Just remember that other completed applications are being reviewed while you are waiting for 'just the right test scores'. Application supplementation with new and improved test scores, awards, letters of recommendation, etc. is expected and anticipated. But still, the application is not reviewed until it's complete (if anyone has contrary information pls share).

My DS submitted his application early and continued to submit new test scores and awards as they were received. The Board continued to review his application in context of the other applications being considered. His NAPS selection letter came 12-26.

Good luck and stay in the hunt!

Are you saying that if you 3Q'd you can not be selected for NAPS? Or that you are 3Q'd you are just lower than average on academics? Sorry I'm just confused on certain parts of NAPS.

[CL1VE]

One other question: I'm a freshman in college does that keep me from being considered for NAPS?

[navy_clarinet_mom]

CL1VE...No it does not. I know of someone that did just that after the freshman year of college. Not the regular route to take but was willing to do what was necessary to get to the goal and appointment at USNA.

[navy_clarinet_mom]

Are you saying that if you 3Q'd you can not be selected for NAPS? Or that you are 3Q'd you are just lower than average on academics? Sorry I'm just confused on certain parts of NAPS.

Those that get 3Q'd are not eligible for NAPS because those have already met the "academically qualified" component and NAPS is to help on the academic side.

[CL1VE]

Thank you navy clarinet mom! But I have another question then, what exactly is "academically qualified"? Does just being named a candidate mean you are academically qualified? Because at my BGO interview he asked me if I was interested in NAPS and I told him I'd do what was necessary to get the appointment; so I guess I'm just confused on the whole matter. From what I've read if you're not offered a direct appointment you are automatically considered for NAPS.

[navy_clarinet_mom]

Academic qualification can only be issued by USNA and not everyone is told upfront that they are academically qualified. If you are told that in an official letter from the Admissions department then you would not be considered for NAPS. Being offered a candidate number does not mean that you are academically qualified or unqualified.

As many will tell you there is still the unknown about the entire admissions decision process on appointments. Please understand that if you are 3Q'd and even have nominations for multiple sources that you are not guaranteed an appointment. I have seen many over the years be disappointed and left wondering why because they were strong candidates.

The best advice you can be given is to present your best you that you can in your application, let those that you talk with know your heart's desire, and let the chips fall where they may. I would also add to get your application in as early as you are able to get it completed as it shows high motivation to the board. I understand that you are in college now so you need to wait on that first semester grades, but get everything else in as soon as you can.

Best of luck to you!

[CL1VE]

Thank you for the well wishes and information! But yes I am in college so USNA doesn't even look at our packages until January, they want first semester grades I would think. I have everything in except CFA which one of the officers at my NROTC unit will be conducting for me in November. At my BGO interview last Saturday he told me being in NROTC should help me a little, and I told him I'd accept a selection to NAPS in a heartbeat if I was even lucky enough to get that. So it's just a wait and see game now but I'm used to that from NROTC scholarship last spring :biggrin:

[Stephanie2012]

my question would be..what makes an ideal candidate for a preparatory school? academics is all that i am lacking at the moment (2.8 cumulative unweighted gpa), sat/act scores are in high range,and my ecas are very good. what gpa is "too low" for even a preparatory school? Thank you.

[OklahomaDad]

My son had a high gpa 3.8, but his ACT wasn't very high. He came from a very small school and wasn't offered any AP classes. Graduated around 22 total, and he was number 1. He is at NAPS now. He was a state judo champion. The academics are challenging for him but he is hanging in there.