November NROTC board results known?

[Pima]

The one thing to remember that ROTC scholarships are usually more competitive than the SA's. The reason why is that every SA candidate or 99% of them will apply for ROTC scholarships. Whereas, 99% of ROTC candidates don't apply for the SA.

LY it actually became comical on some ROTC threads. There were candidates that did not get a scholarship. yet got into an SA.

IMPO the entire system is messed up.

There should be the 2 track system, but I think they should all have the same system regarding awarding scholarships like every SA has the same system for appointing.

USMA/USNA/AFA all have different info released to candidate, but the system is the same regarding how the process works, including the same % for every aspect in the WCS score.

Thank G*d for sites like this where you can learn more. Imagine right now there are many applicants who are navigating the system for multiple ROTC scholarships and trying to truly understand the impact of selecting 5 schools. Getting a scholarship to one, but rejected by the college. I would bet my life that there is at least one recipient who believes it is over, and does not know they can try to change the school to match the scholarship.

[skipper]

MY DS checked the box that he was also interested in USNA, which prompted his USNA application. Can that be the problem here? Do they hold up up NROTC until DS gets the TWE because of no nom? In your case, did someone inadvertently check that box on your DS's behalf, thus holding things up?



I just wanted to second the fact that they do not hold up NROTC scholarships for candidates waiting to hear from USNA. My D is 3Qd and has 3 nominations and received the NROTC scholarship. She is a tier 2 major. I am starting to think that the school selection may have more to do with it than I originally thought. I hope all of you who are waiting hear some good news soon.

[patentesq]

LY it actually became comical on some ROTC threads. There were candidates that did not get a scholarship. yet got into an SA.

IMPO the entire system is messed up.

Comical indeed. My DS is in that very position at this very moment, only he's been admitted to two SAs. No word from ROTC to even begin to evaluate which is the best commissioning path (ROTC v. SA). I have to say, however, that the SAs have been MUCH more helpful on the communications front (not one-on-one communications, but published standards available to all about what the SAs are looking for in successful applicants, such as CFA, GPA, MOC noms, targeted recruiting efforts, etc.). Right now, for any SA candidate who posts "What are my chances", I can actually provide an educated guess. With ROTC, I cannot.

[Pima]

No disagreement with me.

I think the reason why is that ROTC is a nationalistic approach, whereas SA is geographically centric. For example a candidate for the SA from AR will not go up against a candidate from VA ***Caveat, not until the NWL for SA.

Whereas, the candidate from AR will go up against the candidate from VA. Caveat: for NROTC and AROTC if they both apply to the same schools. For AFROTC it is everyone since schools do not play into the equation.

As a parent this can create a large amount of frustration trying to sort out and convert in your mind who's on first?

For example:

Child applied to every SA, but only applied to AFROTC and NROTC. So now you are dealing with keeping track of noms, DodMerb, and AFROTC boards, plus NROTC boards, plus their schools.

The saying SHOOT ME NOW quickly comes to mind.

FWIW re: AFROTC I state this regarding chances...99% of the AFA candidates will apply for ROTC, your goal should be competitive with AFA. In other words, you need @1300+ on the SAT. You need @ 3.6+ gpa, and AP/IBs. You need ECs, including athletics.

I am willing to bet that NROTC also has 99% of USNA candidates applying too. Same with AROTC and USMA.

Want to be truly competitive? Be in the parameters of the SA's in this economy to get awarded the best scholarship.

Caveat: AROTC has a lot of scholarships compared to NROTC and AFROTC. NROTC right now is probably the hardest one to get out of the big 3.

[CandidateInSD]

For what it's worth, just to let you know there is some movement, two of my DS's friends received word that they were denied NROTC scholarships yesterday. Fingers crossed for you all still waiting.

[ratchet1368]

Fingers and toes . . .

[ratchet1368]

How do they inform the candidates that they will not receive the scholarship --- is it via a letter or a call?

[CandidateInSD]

To be honest, I'm not sure, I did ask my son how they found out so that I could share that here, but you know teenagers, they don't always ask the questions we want answers to. I'll post here if I find out.

[raiderz2011]

candidate- They were not rolled over? I thought thats how it was done?

[NROTCAlumDad]

candidate- They were not rolled over? I thought thats how it was done?

I was told yesterday by someone at NETC that they are starting to send out rejection letters now for those they know aren't going to make the cut.

[raiderz2011]

Alumdad- do you know when they are supposed to be sent out? And received?

[NROTCAlumDad]

Alumdad- do you know when they are supposed to be sent out? And received?

No, just that they were getting to that point. I actually wasn't under the impression from what was said to me that notifications had already gone out. I guess in this case, no news is good news -- at least as good as we've come to expect.

[raiderz2011]

And I just heard there was no more out of state scholarships... There's no schools in Delaware with it...

[NROTCAlumDad]

And I just heard there was no more out of state scholarships... There's no schools in Delaware with it...

Where did you hear that? Does that include private schools?

[raiderz2011]

http://www.serviceacademyforums.com/showthread.php?t=17786

I saw it in this thread. And I have no idea.

[FlyingIrish1992]

And I just heard there was no more out of state scholarships... There's no schools in Delaware with it...

Is that only referring to the Marine-option NROTC?

[raiderz2011]

I have no idea. That is just what I read.

[ratchet1368]

It appears by the boards the Army side announced a set of scholarships -- when is the NROTC side? Anyone? Anyone?

[jagabiti]

Still waiting in NJ! DS's status changed for AROTC yesterday for the good but don't know which school or for how many years. Have heard nothing on NROTC.... very nervous.....

[jkeeen1]

My DD just had a status change within last few hours, was not selected will receive letter with other options. congrats to all who were awarded a scholarship!

[patentesq]

No change in status here.

[MorganC]

My status hasn't changed at all since last July. I've already prepared myself for student loans.

[ProudCitadelDad]

Is that only referring to the Marine-option NROTC?

If you have concerns you may want to contact the following person. She has been able to answer some questions for me.

Ms. Melissa A. Parker
Human Resources
NROTC Scholarship Placement Office
NSTC Officer Development (Code OD2)
250 Dallas Street
Pensacola, FL 32508-5220
DSN Phone: 922-9380
Commercial Phone: (850) 452-9380
Fax: (850) 452-2486
Email: melissa.a.parker@navy.mil
Placement Email: pnsc_nrotc.placement@navy.mil

[xcskidh60]

Son had all materials in first part of May. Received nurse option scholarship to UW Madison (first choice) in October.Passed DODMERB in December, and acceptance to UW in January.

[lroddy]

My DS received his NROTC Tier 1 4 yr scholarship and was appointed to the unit at Michigan in December. He is still waiting to hear whether he has been accepted to Michigan. He sent an email to the unit at Michigan yesterday asking for their help in determining his admissions status. He has also been accepted at UC Boulder and Iowa State...does anyone know the contact names at those University's in order for him to inquire as to the possibility of transferring his scholarship to either of those schools if space is available? And we are also waiting to hear if he will receive an appointment to USNA...
Thanks so much...and I will keep my fingers crossed for all who are awaiting their NROTC award!

[eagleerok]

My DS received his NROTC Tier 1 4 yr scholarship and was appointed to the unit at Michigan in December. He is still waiting to hear whether he has been accepted to Michigan. He sent an email to the unit at Michigan yesterday asking for their help in determining his admissions status. He has also been accepted at UC Boulder and Iowa State...does anyone know the contact names at those University's in order for him to inquire as to the possibility of transferring his scholarship to either of those schools if space is available? And we are also waiting to hear if he will receive an appointment to USNA...
Thanks so much...and I will keep my fingers crossed for all who are awaiting their NROTC award!

I am in a similar situation with trying to get my scholarship transferred. The people to talk to about this is the folks in Pensacola. Send an Email to: pnsc_nrotc.placement@navy.mil
Just state what you want in the email and they will place you on the waitlist. They tell me that they won't start working transfers until beginning of April.

Good Luck

[lroddy]

Thanks eaglerok for the advise...am wondering though if it's a appropriate to contact the various units at the other universities where he has been accepted, as well as the folks in Pennsicola, just to get his name in front of those units? I've read that some candidates have had luck doing this and securing their transfers earlier than April? Or, must the final decision have to come from the head office? Too much to figure out and juggle!

Goodness, I can relate to everyone on this forum and feel as though all the DS and DD's are my very own...what a rollercoaster of emotions for all concerned. I think someone should write a "how to cope" manual!!!

Thanks again and can I ask where you were assigned and where you would like to end up!?

[eagleerok]

I emailed one of the units that I'm trying to get it transferred to and they said that they aren't the ones to talk to and that the people in Pensacola are the ones who I should be talking to. He did say that his unit (University of Kansas) hasn't reached quota the past couple of years so that helped my chances a little. It probably wouldn't hurt to get your name out there a little. Every time I talk to Pensacola they say that they will work transfers once all the boards are complete so I'm still playing the waiting game. I am currently assigned to the Ohio State University, but didn't get in there so I'm on the waitlist at Arizona State, University of Kansas, and Iowa State University. I'm hoping for one of those!

[dpt620]

still no word from NROTC...Accepted to the U of Rochester yesterday, but won't be able to attend unless I got a scholarship. I thought I was pretty competitive, but I'm worried come May I'll be without a scholarship and forced to attend my in-state safety.

Does anyone know the latest date one could receive an NROTC scholarship? Is it April 1st? Or sometime in Mid April?

[Texasblues]

still no word from NROTC...Accepted to the U of Rochester yesterday, but won't be able to attend unless I got a scholarship. I thought I was pretty competitive, but I'm worried come May I'll be without a scholarship and forced to attend my in-state safety.

Does anyone know the latest date one could receive an NROTC scholarship? Is it April 1st? Or sometime in Mid April?

We should gets some results this week. Not sure how many more times the board will be meeting. They meet every couple of weeks but I think they're getting close to being finished.

I am so mentally exhausted waiting to hear something from NROTC!:rant2:

[dpt620]

I am so mentally exhausted waiting to hear something from NROTC!:rant2:

So am I.....I'm just crossing my fingers for a generous financial aid package from one of my schools because I'm starting to lose hope on receiving an NROTC scholarship.

Assuming the worst, if I am forced to attend SUNY Geneseo for financial reasons,but decide I want to transfer to another school (for simplicity's sake let's say U of Rochester) so I can be in their NROTC unit, how would I go about applying for a 3-year scholarship? Is it even possible?

[Texasblues]

BUMP!!!!!

[aglages]

BUMP!!!!!
Thank God you bumped this. The previous post was almost 22 hours old.

[marciemi]

Well, I'll bump this with some good news! Son had been deferred by MIT after getting his NROTC scholarship there from the November board and just got his ACCEPTANCE this evening!!!! :jump1:

[aglages]

Well, I'll bump this with some good news! Son had been deferred by MIT after getting his NROTC scholarship there from the November board and just got his ACCEPTANCE this evening!!!! :jump1:
Congrats Marciemi to you and your son!!
MIT....that is quite an accomplishment.:thumb:

[patentesq]

Well, I'll bump this with some good news! Son had been deferred by MIT after getting his NROTC scholarship there from the November board and just got his ACCEPTANCE this evening!!!! :jump1:

That is AWESOME!!!!! Congrats!!!

[basilrathbone]

Well, I'll bump this with some good news! Son had been deferred by MIT after getting his NROTC scholarship there from the November board and just got his ACCEPTANCE this evening!!!! :jump1:
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That's outstanding news! Our kids will be in the same unit.

[GoNavyBeatArmy2015]

MIT? WOW! Congratulations. Strike up the celebration! If I could, I would supply a drumline, but this is the closest thing!

:band::band::band:

[NROTCAlumDad]

We should gets some results this week. Not sure how many more times the board will be meeting. They meet every couple of weeks but I think they're getting close to being finished.

I am so mentally exhausted waiting to hear something from NROTC!:rant2:

Has anyone heard anything this week? No change in status here. He's gotten "likely letters" from a few schools, including some on his NROTC list. We've pretty much given up hope that the Navy will come through.

[chjorg]

DS is still waiting....for NROTC, AFROTC (told he was competitive but bumped to the next board). Also, USNA, AFA, USCG. He has a solid plan #6 (UND), but getting him to look at private scholarships is like pulling teeth. He really believes he belongs in the military..I do, too! The wait continues......

[cjs]

Well, I'll bump this with some good news! Son had been deferred by MIT after getting his NROTC scholarship there from the November board and just got his ACCEPTANCE this evening!!!! :jump1:

Congrats!!!!!!

[lroddy]

chjorg..my DD is at UND, not for anything military related, although here is what happened to her roommate...roommate went to Freshman Orientation as required and somehow ended up talking with the ROTC folks standing in receiving area (ROTC has a table set up as soon as you walk into the Welcome Area)

...unbeknownst to her parents she disappeared for a while (they took her to do a PT test right then and there)and came back with an AROTC scholarship for nursing! Seriously...never did any of the stuff our DS/DD's have done to get to where they are...so my question is...have you talked with the ROTC folks at UND? I have to think not all the slots fill and "maybe" they save spots for "walk-ons"? Keep in mind that statement was pure speculation...I just found it amazing roommate did what she did! I tried to get my DD to do the same!!! She said "NO WAY! Do you know how early they have to get up to EXERCISE?!"

Good luck to you and your family...my fingers are crossed for all of us waiting for any kind of news!

[chjorg]

chjorg..my DD is at UND, not for anything military related, although here is what happened to her roommate...roommate went to Freshman Orientation as required and somehow ended up talking with the ROTC folks standing in receiving area (ROTC has a table set up as soon as you walk into the Welcome Area)

...unbeknownst to her parents she disappeared for a while (they took her to do a PT test right then and there)and came back with an AROTC scholarship for nursing! Seriously...never did any of the stuff our DS/DD's have done to get to where they are...so my question is...have you talked with the ROTC folks at UND? I have to think not all the slots fill and "maybe" they save spots for "walk-ons"? Keep in mind that statement was pure speculation...I just found it amazing roommate did what she did! I tried to get my DD to do the same!!! She said "NO WAY! Do you know how early they have to get up to EXERCISE?!"

Good luck to you and your family...my fingers are crossed for all of us waiting for any kind of news!
We are heading up to UND next week. We have an appt. with the AFROTC unit, among others.
How does DD like UND? My DS will pursue Mech eng. with an aerospace focus. I think it should be a great school for that, but it is in the middle of nowhere with brutal winters!
We are used to cold and snow, but they get never ending cold!!!!
DS relishes the workout! During swim season, they get up every morning at 5am to either lift or swim. He is very disciplined...I think that is one of the reasons he would flourish in the military. DH and I were both in the Army, but as a do over, I would have chosen a different branch. I think I may have biased him against a career in the Army. It isn't on his list.
Good Luck to your family as well. The waiting is tough and everyone is just such an outstanding candidate! They should all be very proud of their accomplishments, no matter what the outcome!

[dpt620]

Still no word yet. I just wish I knew if I was rejected or not so I can move on and try again next year. Waiting is definitely the worst part.

For anyone who ends up not receiving a scholarship: Joining an NROTC unit as a college programmer is not always the easiest way of receiving a scholarship. Two different sources told me I should re-apply for the scholarship this fall with first-semester college grades and transfer to the college I received the scholarship at (assuming I get accepted to the college as well as receive a scholarship).

If I don't get an NROTC scholarship or get accepted to USNA, I'll most likely be attending Davidson College in NC, where I'll re-apply to USNA and NROTC there. If that doesn't work out I'll do OCS after college. I know I want to serve, and no rejection letter is going to stop me from doing that. Best of luck to everyone!

[patentesq]

I just got off the phone with the local NROTC Scholarship Coordinator. I learned a couple of things.

1. The list of college choices located on the status update website (https://www.nrotc.navy.mil/status_scholarship.aspx) totally do NOT match DS's actual college choices in the NROTC computer. For example, the website lists UCLA as one of DS's school choices, but DS has never applied to that school. However, the NROTC computer (the one that really matters and the one that the NROTC Scholarship Coordinator can access from his desk) is consistent with the request that DS previously sent to PNSC_NROTC.scholarship@navy.mil. DS is basically ignoring what is listed on the scholarship status website.

2. The NROTC Scholarship Coordinator also said that the Navy has been tight-fisted with scholarships so far, because there is a lack of clarity on the budget front. Based on my conversation, though, I don't think there has been any official communication that this is in fact the case, and the Coordinator may have just assumed that this is the case. In any event, he did say that, historically, most of the scholarship offers are released at the end of the academic cycle (i.e., in early April).

[AppealToHeaven]

Thanks, Patentesq - good info. So we wait....

[ratchet1368]

Oh, I wish of would have known then . . . what I know now.

[dunninla]

In any event, he did say that, historically, most of the scholarship offers are released at the end of the academic cycle (i.e., in early April). That may be true for the less popular programs, but certainly not for the more popular Battalions. All 5 of the schools listed on our application (USD, Tulane, FL, GW, BU) are apparently quite popular, and had filled their allocations as of late Feb. A conversation with the LT at USD in early Feb revealed that USD had a quota this year of approx. 41 offers, from which they could take a max of 35 enrollees (I believe 35 is a national hard cap on any Battalion's single year 4 years scholarship Navy Option awards). At that time, late Jan/early February, 36 Navy Option offers had been made of which 31 had already been accepted. That number does not include the STA-21 program awardees, or Marine Option, or MECEP.

[danger zone]

I just got off the phone with the local NROTC Scholarship Coordinator. I learned a couple of things.

1. The list of college choices located on the status update website (https://www.nrotc.navy.mil/status_scholarship.aspx) totally do NOT match DS's actual college choices in the NROTC computer. For example, the website lists UCLA as one of DS's school choices, but DS has never applied to that school. However, the NROTC computer (the one that really matters and the one that the NROTC Scholarship Coordinator can access from his desk) is consistent with the request that DS previously sent to PNSC_NROTC.scholarship@navy.mil. DS is basically ignoring what is listed on the scholarship status website.

2. The NROTC Scholarship Coordinator also said that the Navy has been tight-fisted with scholarships so far, because there is a lack of clarity on the budget front. Based on my conversation, though, I don't think there has been any official communication that this is in fact the case, and the Coordinator may have just assumed that this is the case. In any event, he did say that, historically, most of the scholarship offers are released at the end of the academic cycle (i.e., in early April).



aka We need Congress to pass a budget ASAP!!!! haha



-signed an anxious NROTC applicant

[arewethereyet]

DS staus changed this morning...to " Congratulations!" 4year Navy option scholarship to GA Tech - so excited to have something positive to report! Can't wait for him to get home from school and check his portal. Dying to go to the school and tell him!! But will hold back and let him have the pleasure of finding out for himself.

[patentesq]

DS staus changed this morning...to " Congratulations!" 4year Navy option scholarship to GA Tech - so excited to have something positive to report! Can't wait for him to get home from school and check his portal. Dying to go to the school and tell him!! But will hold back and let him have the pleasure of finding out for himself.

CONGRATS!!!!!! :thumb::thumb::thumb:

[grtkidmom]

awesome and congrats..always good to hear positive Navy news.

[luckymacy]

Nice! Congratulations. Hopefully a lot more to come. It's been a LONG time since November and with so little positive reporting overall to date.

DS staus changed this morning...to " Congratulations!" 4year Navy option scholarship to GA Tech - so excited to have something positive to report! Can't wait for him to get home from school and check his portal. Dying to go to the school and tell him!! But will hold back and let him have the pleasure of finding out for himself.

[AppealToHeaven]

congrats, patentesq - was GA Tech his first choice?

[arewethereyet]

Ga Tech was DS first choice for NROTC...now we continue to wait for word from USNA and USAFA. Wonderful to have plan B in place.

[jagabiti]

CONGRATULATIONS! So happy to hear it! Of course quickly went and checked my DS status....no change...I even called DODMERB and asked if NROTC had requested a DODMERB on him (that's how we first found out about AROTC before the online changed) but nothing else was added.....

Anyone else status change yet? Here's hoping for us all to change TODAY!:wow:

[patentesq]

congrats, patentesq - was GA Tech his first choice?

AppealToHeaven, I was congratulating arewethereyet. My DS is still waiting along with the others. :confused:

I think there is something else in play here other than credentials, because DS has pretty strong credentials. My DS has 1570/1600 SATs and other ECs, etc. that were apparently strong enough for appointments to two SAs (not USNA, where he did not receive a nomination but still 3Q'd) and selection for 4yr Scholarships to AROTC and AFROTC. I hope everyone will excuse me for saying this, but I can't imagine that NROTC has only handed out scholarships to folks with SAT scores higher than 1570, when a perfect SAT score is 1600 (800 Critical Reading and 800 Math). Candidly, if DS's scores weren't near perfect, I would conclude that he's simply not good enough for NROTC.

I contacted the NROTC units on DS's list, and except for the mandatory state school, they are not full (and typically are NEVER full, because hardly anyone is ever admitted to the listed schools). Also, the NROTC person at state school expressed surprise that DS wasn't picked up yet and thought something else was in play, which prompted my comment here.

Here's what I think might be the things holding things up:

1. Except for the mandatory state school, there are very pricey private schools on DS's school choice list (COA $55,000/year). Was told from one cadre member that NROTC is trying to fill state schools first but I have no way of knowing this is true or not.

2. DS's major is Biology (Tier 2 Major), NOT Tier 1 Engineering! (are all the NROTC awards going to Tier 1 first???).

3. Schools on DS's school choice list do not do rolling admissions, so maybe NROTC wants to be sure DS is admitted to the school before assigning him to the unit. Schools on DS's list are total "crap shoot" in terms of admissions, and maybe NROTC recognizes this.

4. DS received a letter from USNA, stating that he was academically qualified, so perhaps this somehow has placed a "hold" on things (although I have been told repeatedly that USNA and NROTC don't "talk").

5. DS and I have totally, totally, totally underestimated how much more competitive NROTC is than AROTC and AFROTC.

I'm really thinking that 5 is the most likely factor. I must admit, this has certainly been an eye-opener for me.

What to others who are still waiting think? Are the "waiters" all Tier 2 majors? Are the "waiters" listing pricey, private schools? Are the "waiters" also USNA applicants with board-certified letters? Or am I just incredibly clueless?

The reason I am asking these questions is mainly to help out my DD (currently a freshman in HS), who told me the other day that she wants to fly fighter jets!! :smile:

Any thoughts?

[AppealToHeaven]

Arewethereyet - I can imagine your excitement. We are waiting as well on both USNA and NROTC - without either of these options at present, plan c is not as attractive!

[ratchet1368]

Since I am new to the process, I did not realize that most apply for all ROTC scholarships and service academies -- so many are offered multiple options -- it must take awhile to sift through right?

[patentesq]

Since I am new to the process, I did not realize that most apply for all ROTC scholarships and service academies -- so many are offered multiple options -- it must take awhile to sift through right?

There are so many things that can trip you up in this process, so you should definitely apply to everything you can. For example, you may want SA #1 but don't get a nomination (thus, you'll get a TWE in the end). Also, you may have an unexpected DoDMERB issue, and SA#2 will deny your waiver but AFROTC will grant the waiver.

The unfortunate part is that you don't know at the time you apply where all these issues may surface. If you wait to pursue Plan B until after you have exhausted Plan A, then Plan B is no longer available.

If you do opt for Plan A in the end, you can rest assured that someone else will benefit from your decision to close the door to Plan B (which may actually be the other person's Plan A). The funds allocated to your declined Plan B do get handed out to someone else at the end of this process.

The only other piece of advice is that you should not close doors until you have to. For example, if you want to fly and are offered USNA and AFROTC and dislocate your shoulder after turning down AFROTC, you won't be able to seek a waiver from AFROTC if USNA decides that you are no longer medically qualified.

Also, be prepared for an incredibly stressful process.

[bjc]

DS staus changed this morning...to " Congratulations!" 4year Navy option scholarship to GA Tech.

Congratulations to you and to the future Rambling Wreck! :yay:

[pennak]

"The reason I am asking these questions is mainly to help out my DD (currently a freshman in HS), who told me the other day that she wants to fly fighter jets!! "

Patentesq. My DS is still waiting for MO NROTC. He had 1400 combined SAT with an 800 in CR, plus weighted 4.0 plus Eagle Scout plus other ECs. The MO scholarships were decided back in Febuary! His schools are all SMCs plus University of Washington. Are they all full? I do know that the MO Rotc was incredibly competitive this year. In the 4th Marine Dist., for the Feb. boards there were 260 applicants and they reportly gave out only 40 scholarships -- roughly 15%! I am also told that they were cut back on the number of scholarships they could offer. Maybe the same for regular NROTC

[patentesq]

"The reason I am asking these questions is mainly to help out my DD (currently a freshman in HS), who told me the other day that she wants to fly fighter jets!! "

Patentesq. My DS is still waiting for MO NROTC. He had 1400 combined SAT with an 800 in CR, plus weighted 4.0 plus Eagle Scout plus other ECs. The MO scholarships were decided back in Febuary! His schools are all SMCs plus University of Washington. Are they all full? I do know that the MO Rotc was incredibly competitive this year. In the 4th Marine Dist., for the Feb. boards there were 260 applicants and they reportly gave out only 40 scholarships -- roughly 15%! I am also told that they were cut back on the number of scholarships they could offer. Maybe the same for regular NROTC

Thanks, pennak!! It seems odd that NROTC would be so much, Much, MUCH more competitive than USNA this year (my DS received the "board certified" letter from USNA months ago). I'm very surprised your DS didn't get picked up yet!!!!!!

As for your "full" question, that has not been a limiting factor for my DS (because only one school on his list is full).

Fate works in mysterious ways!! Timing certainly is everything!

[pennak]

"Fate works in mysterious ways!! Timing certainly is everything! "

Indeed!! I am wondering if my DS's PFT is hurting him. It was "only" 241 with "only" 18 pullups, still a class one pft as it is above 225, but who knows? I was told on March 4 by a Board selecting officer that the MO scholarships would be "official" within couple of weeks. So, maybe any day now.

[ratchet1368]

DoDMERB is down so maybe they are loading all of the information for the new guys? Thoughts?

[Texasblues]

"Fate works in mysterious ways!! Timing certainly is everything! "

Indeed!! I am wondering if my DS's PFT is hurting him. It was "only" 241 with "only" 18 pullups, still a class one pft as it is above 225, but who knows? I was told on March 4 by a Board selecting officer that the MO scholarships would be "official" within couple of weeks. So, maybe any day now.

I've read many times about the PFT. DS never took one and was never told to do so. Is this going to hurt his chances?
Did it list that on the application?

I'm thinking at this point he's not going to be selected.:frown:

[patentesq]

I've read many times about the PFT. DS never took one and was never told to do so. Is this going to hurt his chances?
Did it list that on the application?

I'm thinking at this point he's not going to be selected.:frown:

I think PFT is only for Marine Option. Navy didn't require it. AT LEAST I HOPE NOT!! :eek:

[bjc]

I've read many times about the PFT. DS never took one and was never told to do so. Is this going to hurt his chances?
Did it list that on the application?

I'm thinking at this point he's not going to be selected.:frown:

The PFT is for Marine Option only. In my DS's case, it was conducted by the recruiting officer when he went for his officer interview.

[pennak]

That's odd. I thought the MO NROTC application was not complete until and unless the applicant took the PFT. Your RS should be able to tell you whether his application was submitted for Board Selection.

[patentesq]

The PFT is for Marine Option only. In my DS's case, it was conducted by the recruiting officer when he went for his officer interview.

You mean he administered the PFT while conducting the interview??? Those Marines are truly tough characters!!

[bjc]

You mean he administered the PFT while conducting the interview??? Those Marines are truly tough characters!!

Haha, yes they are. Actually, they took their photos first, then administered the PFT with the run being last, and then after the run took them back inside and conducted the interviews! Stinky, sweaty, yuk!

[danger zone]

Congrats!




Just checked mine...:frown: nothing.


Hopefully I will know soon!

[Roway]

1. Not necessarily, DS awarded NROTC to Villanova (52K) in Oct.

2. Could be, DS electrical engineering.

3. Not necessarily, Villanova doesn't do rolling admissions either and we just found out DS was accepted yesterday.

4. Not at all, DS was also appointed to USNA In Oct.

5. Not necessarily, DS was awarded NROTC(1st board), AROTC(1st board) appointed USNA(Oct) but rejected by AFROTC (also 1st board).

[Roway]

Patentesq: Sorry if above message is confusing but I couldn't figure out how to quote your original message in my reply.

[patentesq]

2. Could be, DS electrical engineering.

Thanks, Roway. You've answered my questions!

Those who are still waiting: Are most of you "Tier 2" majors?

Those who have received NROTC awards: Are most of you "Tier 1" majors?

[mcduffiea]

I'm a Tier 1 major, still waiting for word.

[dpt620]

I'm a Tier 2 major, USNA 3Q'ed with nomination (though still biting my nails for an appointment), and applied to all pricey private schools besides the mandatory state school. I'm in the same situation as your son/daughter, parentsq.

[gonavy2015]

Thanks, Roway. You've answered my questions!

Those who are still waiting: Are most of you "Tier 2" majors?

Those who have received NROTC awards: Are most of you "Tier 1" majors?

My DS is still waiting. Tier 1 major.

[enived2]

Hi! I've been anxiously watching these threads...ever hopeful that everyone gets the outcome that they desire.

My son applied for MO NROTC and was notified last week that he received the scholarship to his #1 school - it was in state (CU-Boulder). We are incredibly happy for him. He had also applied to 6 other schools and was accepted by all, so if they had offered it at schools 2, 3, 4, or 5 he would have been good to go (if the unit had a slot). Norwich admitted him and was his 2nd choice. I will say it was a good thing we applied EARLY. I've read on these threads several times how that can come back and bite you if you haven't applied to all of your schools.

He applied as a Tier 3 major.......which makes it even more amazing that he was awarded the scholarship! He did not apply to any other ROTC or Academy - he was adamant that it was Marine Option or nothing. Hopefully, DodMERB goes well for my son and he can proceed as planned. I'm so amazed at all these great kids that have gotten multiple offers. Something to be very very proud of.

It sounds like there is some "movement" out there, so hopefully the wait will be over soon.

Good luck to all!

[danger zone]

Tier 3 right here haha.


So I would not be surprised if I do not end up with a scholarship...but we will have to wait and see.

[d.mcknight]

Thanks, Roway. You've answered my questions!

Those who are still waiting: Are most of you "Tier 2" majors?

Those who have received NROTC awards: Are most of you "Tier 1" majors?

I'm a Tier 2 (engineering) and I got mine towards the end of February.

[patentesq]

Thanks,folks! There doesn't appear to be any discernable pattern. Unlike the SA's, there don't appear to be any "Class of 20XX" stats. I guess it really comes down to fate on the ROTC front. Oh well.

[marciemi]

Patentesq - I'm going to try to reply to a few of your thoughts here as well. I just had a couple questions up front, if you don't mind answering them! What are your son's schools he had listed? I'm just curious because while we were waiting on MIT, my son was getting placed on waitlists for his other choices, but nearly all of them were already full, despite all being "pricey private schools that are hard to get into" :wink:. Also, when did your son apply? I can only assume that my son had a huge advantage of having everything complete in mid-Sept, which got him the scholarship in November. My son's choices were MIT, Michigan (just as pricey as any of the others since we're OOS) - this was when they allowed you back then to not list an instate school, Northwestern, RPI, and Carnegie Mellon. His scores also weren't as strong as your son's (he never took the SAT, but his ACT conversion shown on his NROTC page shows 800 math and 700 CR). To address your points:

1. We WERE told when he tried to switch his scholarship to Michigan that they were full to OOS students but had unlimited instate scholarships. Similarly, if he wanted WI, he'd be guaranteed a slot. Since they gave him MIT scholarship in Nov, that doesn't seem to be an indicator of filling state schools.

2. He did select Chemical/Nuclear Engineering so this could be as others said.

3. I feel that most of my DS' choices are also crap shoot ones and was told that they don't consider whether or not you are accepted (or are likely to be).

4. DS got his USNA appointment in December so there didn't seem to be a correlation.

5. Well, then we did the other way. DS only got a Tier 7 AFROTC scholarship (instate tuition only) and not until several months after he got his 4 year NROTC one.

I think PFT is only for Marine Option. Navy didn't require it. AT LEAST I HOPE NOT!! :eek:

He never did a PFT either (other than for AFROTC).

1. Not necessarily, DS awarded NROTC to Villanova (52K) in Oct.

2. Could be, DS electrical engineering.

3. Not necessarily, Villanova doesn't do rolling admissions either and we just found out DS was accepted yesterday.

4. Not at all, DS was also appointed to USNA In Oct.

5. Not necessarily, DS was awarded NROTC(1st board), AROTC(1st board) appointed USNA(Oct) but rejected by AFROTC (also 1st board).

Just had to quote this since your son's experiences seem pretty similar to my son's!

Good luck to everyone!

[patentesq]

Hi, Marciemi! I expect that my DS is eyeballing the same types of schools as your DS (my DS has applied to Harvard, Northwestern, Stanford, etc.). Congrats to your DS on MIT!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

He didn't submit his NROTC app until November 2010, but I figured this wasn't a big deal because there were boards every two weeks. Guess I was wrong. But then he did get a 4-yr Type 2 AFROTC.

Part of me thinks that DS may have received a mediocre eval in his NROTC interview (we don't know how that turned out). For NROTC, he interviewed with a newbie-Chief Petty Officer, who may not have known what is a good interview score, but for AROTC he got a 200/200 interview score from a seasoned AROTC cadre member who knows the scholarship game. Maybe that's just fate, I suppose, and stuff like that happens -- you can't please everyone.

Totally agree with the crap-shoot nature of some of these schools. If only my DS had only followed my advice to climb Mt. Everest before the age of 13, obtain 4 varsity letters in Yodeling, inventing a cure for cancer, and starring in a leading role in the latest Harry Potter film, he would definitely be in business for some of these schools!!

That all said, I think USMA is totally in the same league as any of the "crap shoot" schools. My DS couldn't be more grateful for that opportunity.

Admittedly, though, March 30, 2011 at 5pm Eastern will be a very stressful time for my DS (that's when the Ivy leagues announce admissions). :smile:

[marciemi]

Well, if your son gets into Harvard and mine ends up at MIT, they could be in the same unit! Luckily we have no Ivy's on our wait list so we're done stressing with the acceptance part. Unfortunately the same isn't true for the Dodmerb part, so we'll be on hold for quite awhile (at least until May 2 when he can have his next follow up exam/MRI). Best of luck to your son next week when those decisions come out though!

Funny on the NROTC interview. My son went to his interview and was met by a female Lt Commander who told him she knew nothing about ROTC and that her job was just to make sure he showed up in the right place, at the right time, dressed appropriately, and not 50 pounds overweight. Since he'd worn a tie and even brought a copy of his resume, he evidently passed that test! He was there a total of maybe 5 minutes. So whereas I think his 2 hour interview with the rep from MIT may have helped him there (my son is a natural talker :wink: ), somehow I don't think the same was true for NROTC!

Finally, this year my son had to research a Political Action Committee for his government class and chose the Cloud Appreciation Society. He even paid the dues to join this (British-based) group and enjoyed finding out about it. He's convinced that adding that he was a member of that society to his mid-term report for MIT in January is what got him the acceptance!! :shake:

[basilrathbone]

He didn't submit his NROTC app until November 2010, but I figured this wasn't a big deal because there were boards every two weeks. Guess I was wrong. But then he did get a 4-yr Type 2 AFROTC.



We made that mistake our first time through. (I figured two months before the deadline sounded pretty darn early. I had no idea that early meant 5 or 6 months before the deadline.) Plus, was it just that your part of the application was done in November? Do you know when the interview was submitted? Our recruiter took a long break through the holidays so even though the interview was in mid November, he didn't send it in until mid January.

I'm also surprised that your son didn't get a nomination at all for USNA. We come from a hyper competitive nomination district so I understand it's hard but I imagine your son's SAT's are well high enough. I imagine he also took the hardest classes and has a great GPA & EC's, despite not having cured cancer.

Have you spoken to someone at Pensacola to ensure that they have received a complete application? Our second time through DS app was misplaced for a few months although the website showed it as tracking.

Good luck to you!

[patentesq]

We made that mistake our first time through. (I figured two months before the deadline sounded pretty darn early. I had no idea that early meant 5 or 6 months before the deadline.) Plus, was it just that your part of the application was done in November? Do you know when the interview was submitted? Our recruiter took a long break through the holidays so even though the interview was in mid November, he didn't send it in until mid January.

I'm also surprised that your son didn't get a nomination at all for USNA. We come from a hyper competitive nomination district so I understand it's hard but I imagine your son's SAT's are well high enough. I imagine he also took the hardest classes and has a great GPA & EC's, despite not having cured cancer.

Have you spoken to someone at Pensacola to ensure that they have received a complete application? Our second time through DS app was misplaced for a few months although the website showed it as tracking.

Good luck to you!

Thanks, basilrathbone! We did have a slight delay in submitting the application, because DS had HS transcripts sent to Pensacola. Interviewer was waiting for transcripts to be sent to him. But the delay was only a few weeks as I recall. By December, I think packet was complete. We did talk to someone in Pensacola, and DS's file appears to be complete.

As for USNA nomination, that decision was actually made by a staff person in the MOC office without any real connection to credentials. MOCs like to "spread the wealth" among their constituents, with no candidate getting a nom to all four SAs. So one kid gets a nom to USMA and another kid gets a nom to USNA and another kid gets a nom to USAFA. This way, three kids get the opportunity as opposed to one kid who can only attend one SA. This is actually a fair system, because it enables three kids to serve our country as opposed to just one kid.

The one thing I can say about this whole selection process is that there are a lot of arbitrary factors that come into play that are totally beyond the candidate's control. Each of the "elite schools", the SAs, and ROTC try to make their rosters represent America. I support this 100%. For example, the SAs use the nom process to distribute the appointments across America. The "elite schools" do this by starting out with a 50/50 distribution of women/men and go from there. So if you have an expected class of 1000, then only 500 come from the male gender. If you then take the 500 number, this works out to about 10 per state on average. If you take 10 per state, then that means less than one candidate per high school and so on and so on. It is a brutal process, but I think it is the best way to give opportunities to as many people as possible, because I think it would be unfortunate if the opportunties became concentrated in our "wealth centers" (i.e., big cities) across America.

The only way for candidates to mitigate this numbers game is to cast their net as broadly as possible. My DS did make a major mistake in this regard (actually, it was my fault for not getting involved sooner), because he missed the deadline for Senator nominations in our state. DS was advised that our local Congressman's deadline was October 31, but the Senators had set a deadline of October 1. When DS focused on this on October 2, he was already way behind and missed the Senator nom process entirely. I won't make that mistake again with DD!!

The only other thing I can say to those just starting this process is this. Just because you might think you only want Navy, you should definitely apply for the opportunities in the other services as well. Contrary to popular belief, there is actually a lot of similarity among the services. For example, what's the difference between a military police officer in the Army and a shore patrol officer in the Navy? What's the difference between a transportation officer in the Air Force, and a transportation officer in the Navy. What's the difference between a helicopter pilot in the Coast Guard and a helicopter pilot in the Navy? These are actually the bulk of the junior officer grade jobs in the services. A lot of folks start this process thinking they are going to become elite submarine officers, but the odds are that they will get assigned elsewhere, like Finance Corps, by the time commissioning comes along. If my DS had solely focused on the Navy when he started down this road, he would have had very limited opportunities at this point.

So much of our lives is actually guided by fate.

.

[jagabiti]

No change in DS status...so confused as to why but my thinking is if it hasn't changed online then the answer is a NO. Anyone else see a status change?

[Texasblues]

No change in DS status...so confused as to why but my thinking is if it hasn't changed online then the answer is a NO. Anyone else see a status change?

Nothing here either. I'm thinking what you're thinking. I just wish they'd tell us.:unhappy:

[ratchet1368]

So some got early letters letting them know that they would not receive the scholarship. So we all assumed it is a "good thing" that we are still seeing NO DECISION MADE, but does anyone know if a lot of the students hanging on will still get the denial letter? It is just such a hard, long wait.

[HappyKat]

Son tier 2 major awarded in November. Accepted to USNA, USMA & USAFA in January.

[hopeful_mom]

Still waiting on NROTC, Going through with transfer process for AROTC, DS got wait listed at West Point and rejected by USNA. He is cool with it all. He's excited about college in the fall, where ever. I wonder what will happen if West Point calls? I'm almost out of gas...

[marciemi]

Hi, Marciemi! I expect that my DS is eyeballing the same types of schools as your DS (my DS has applied to Harvard, Northwestern, Stanford, etc.).

Just wondering what your son heard back from NW today? :redface: After the excitement of the MIT acceptance last week, it was a bit depressing for my son to get waitlisted today by NW. He was gambling that USAFA would be his only rejection, but guess we can (at least somewhat) add this one to the list. Since it falls on his choices well below MIT, USNA and Michigan (all of which he has acceptances to), the sting probably wasn't as sharp as it could have been!

[patentesq]

Just wondering what your son heard back from NW today? :redface: After the excitement of the MIT acceptance last week, it was a bit depressing for my son to get waitlisted today by NW. He was gambling that USAFA would be his only rejection, but guess we can (at least somewhat) add this one to the list. Since it falls on his choices well below MIT, USNA and Michigan (all of which he has acceptances to), the sting probably wasn't as sharp as it could have been!

DS got dinged from Northwestern today. He's off to PT, preparing for Beast Barracks. :smile:

[patentesq]

I'm almost out of gas...

hopeful_mom, we're all running low on fuel. :smile: The important thing for us parents is to keep SMILING!! :smile:

Our kiddos are learning important life lessons in this final year of high school.

[marciemi]

DS got dinged from Northwestern today. He's off to PT, preparing for Beast Barracks. :smile:

Good for him! :thumb: Is he seriously planning on WP, or is he waiting to see what all pans out with his NROTC/civilian options? Where do you think WP falls on the list?

[hopeful_mom]

[QUOTE=patentesq;177407]hopeful_mom, we're all running low on fuel. :smile: The important thing for us parents is to keep SMILING!! :smile:

Agreed. Actually, I may just be coming down to a normal level of anticipation. DS thinks I've been a wee bit high strung throughout this whole process. He could be right. Now, I'm sort of just matching his "what ever happens happens" attitude. He is right in that it's out of his hands now and never was in mine!

[danger zone]

Any tier 3's get NROTC scholarships yet?


I just got into my top choice NROTC school...but I'm a tier 3 major so I am not really hinging anything on it.



Oh and a sidenote- I was dinged by Northwestern too. I'm ok with it though, I honestly only really liked the school because it was next to Chicago and it was in the B10.

[patentesq]

Good for him! :thumb: Is he seriously planning on WP, or is he waiting to see what all pans out with his NROTC/civilian options? Where do you think WP falls on the list?

Currently, WP is his No. 1 choice. But he hasn't properly investigated the ROTC side of the house yet and really can't do so until his college choices become clear over the next week.

My gut tells me that it will be WP in the end. But this ultimately has to be his choice, and all I can do is push him to inform himself in excruciating detail about all of his options.

The most challenging thing for me is to see him apply to total crap-shoot schools and see him get dinged. But he understands that this is part of the process.

One bit of advice I gave him at the beginning of this process was: "Reach for the stars, and if you happen to grab the moon, that ain't half bad!"

[patentesq]

I just got into my top choice NROTC school...but I'm a tier 3 major so I am not really hinging anything on it.

Congrats, danger zone! Fate has a weird way of sorting things out.

I don't think NROTC will work out for my DS at this point. He's been rolled over so many boards that he's getting dizzy. Also, USNA has known since January that he doesn't have a nom yet, but still no TWE. I think there is a higher being telling DS "DON'T GO NAVY!" :smile:

[NROTCAlumDad]

Any tier 3's get NROTC scholarships yet?


I just got into my top choice NROTC school...but I'm a tier 3 major so I am not really hinging anything on it.



Oh and a sidenote- I was dinged by Northwestern too. I'm ok with it though, I honestly only really liked the school because it was next to Chicago and it was in the B10.


My son is a Tier 3 also, and has heard nothing from NROTC. He found out today, though, that he was accepted to his #1 (GW) and #3 (UVA) choices for schools with NROTC units, and also to a special international program at Columbia. We've just about given up on the Navy. I think they grossly undervalue a quality liberal arts education. It wasn't like this when I went through.

[NROTCAlumDad]

...and now he's been accepted to Georgetown's Walsh School of Foreign Service, and been offered a full ride at Fordham. He was one of only 30 students selected for the dual-degree international program at Columbia -- still not a peep from the Navy. Do they really feel that strongly that engineers make the best officers? :confused:

[patriot]

...and now he's been accepted to Georgetown's Walsh School of Foreign Service, and been offered a full ride at Fordham. He was one of only 30 students selected for the dual-degree international program at Columbia -- still not a peep from the Navy. Do they really feel that strongly that engineers make the best officers? :confused:

I read your post and was moved to write. I can feel your anxiety and love for your son through the computer. My prayers are with you guys. Please keep us posted!

[paradoxer]

...and now he's been accepted to Georgetown's Walsh School of Foreign Service, and been offered a full ride at Fordham. He was one of only 30 students selected for the dual-degree international program at Columbia -- still not a peep from the Navy. Do they really feel that strongly that engineers make the best officers? :confused:

CEO ranks are loaded with those from liberal arts backgrounds. Congratulations on the good options; glad there are still great choices out there.

[hopeful_mom]

still not a peep from the Navy. Do they really feel that strongly that engineers make the best officers? :confused:

I can only imagine what a difficult job it is to pick scholarship winners. Each year, scholarships of all types get more and more competitive. I would not want to try to sort out and make those awards. Like most I am just humbled by our sons and daughters that have the strength and courage to serve.

[danman2811]

I'm totally starting to go crazy here in CT...haven't heard from NROTC, Coast Guard academy, or the naval academy. I've pretty much given up hope on nrotc, I've had my application in since October and not a word (like so many other people). It's just so tough because I've put so many hours of work and effort into all the applications, interviews, and everything else that goes along with it, not to mention years worth of hard work in and outside of school. I feel like NROTC almost disregards all this effort....I feel like a complete snob and an arrogant little you-know-what saying this, but with everything I've done and my scores, I just feel like, who are they taking? I feel as if it's almost luck, and I'm sure there are people out there who are as fed up with this as I am. Obviously there's still a little more time, but at this point, who knows. I'm sorry for my little rant, just had to put it out there!

[hopeful_mom]

Don't give up hope danman. Everything can change on a dime. So many on this forum were sure they would not get into the SA or not get the scholarship, and then one day, poof, there it was! Hang in there! It's just a bit longer, but do try to make arrangements for plan B. At least it will give you something to do!

[AppealToHeaven]

DS' NROTC status changed for the first time since September today - "we're sorry...."

[patriot]

DS' NROTC status changed for the first time since September today - "we're sorry...."

What time today? What state?

[patentesq]

DS' NROTC status changed for the first time since September today - "we're sorry...."

DS just got dinged for NROTC as well (status changed to "we're sorry . . ."). I'm glad this is over.

[NROTCAlumDad]

DS just got dinged for NROTC as well (status changed to "we're sorry . . ."). I'm glad this is over.


I'm sorry for the bad news, but can fully appreciate the "glad this is over." It has certainly been maddening! Still no change here, so the wait continues... :frown:

[patentesq]

I'm sorry for the bad news, but can fully appreciate the "glad this is over." It has certainly been maddening! Still no change here, so the wait continues... :frown:

Thank you, NROTCAlumDad. :smile: "No change" is likely good news!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! :thumb: Good luck!

[hopeful_mom]

Ouch! All in one week, Rejection letters from Air Force Academy (no nom anyway), West Point (after being wait listed), Naval Academy and now NROTC. That would sting way more if it weren't for the AROTC scholarship. Ah well, it's off to college for the DS. He's cool with it. Truthfully, probably best. I think he was leaning towards the college experience anyway. Now no tough decisions to make. In the end, he got his 1st choice...that is if the transfer goes through. No biggie, he is psyched either way! Ahhhh big relief. I wish you all the best. I think my work here is done.

[Jcleppe]

DS just got dinged for NROTC as well (status changed to "we're sorry . . ."). I'm glad this is over.

Has your son decided what path he will follow, he has some great opportunities.

Good luck to him in whatever he selects.

It's been a long year for all of our kids. For those who received the good news, work hard and earn the opportunity you have been given. For those who weren't as lucky remember, the scholarship was just about the money not the end result. Work hard and you will be putting those bars on in four years, with or without any scholarship.

[AppealToHeaven]

Thanks, everyone for the encouraging words - as painful as it is, Navy dreams don't die if DS works hard to keep them alive - but for dad, I'm SO glad I wont be checking the NROTC site ever again!

[patentesq]

Has your son decided what path he will follow, he has some great opportunities.

Good luck to him in whatever he selects.

Thank you very much, Jcleppe. DS hasn't decided yet which path he will follow. All signs seem to be pointed in the direction of USMA, but he has to go through this decisionmaking process by himself. Ultimately, it is him who has to take this path. Unlike USMA, USMMA may not be the right personal fit (unlike USNA or NROTC, USMMA seems to force students to cram in a 4-yr education into 3 years), but DS is still seriously thinking about it. We will be visiting non-SA schools next week for AROTC, and I will know more in a couple of weeks. On the AROTC front, we also have to evaluate the whole "host school v. non-host school" issue. Ugh! Thank goodness we have until May 1 to decide.

As for AROTC v. AFROTC, AFROTC seems MUCH riskier given the low EA numbers that are coming out. I'm kinda glad we didn't have to get into the whole "AROTC v. NROTC" debate. :smile:

[patentesq]

Thanks, everyone for the encouraging words - as painful as it is, Navy dreams don't die if DS works hard to keep them alive - but for dad, I'm SO glad I wont be checking the NROTC site ever again!

:thumb:

[Fastpitch]

Oh well, at least DD is in a boat with some fine company. "We are sorry, you were not selected for a scholarship. You will receive a letter explaining other options available to you. "

Good thing she applied AROTC last minute because of a possible change of heart about intended major.

I'm guessing the majority of the NROTC scholarships probably went to Tier 1 majors. Who knows though. Perhaps a year from now we'll have a final accounting of how many and what type of scholarships were offered this year as compared to last year. I honestly don't think that many fewer were offered, but I do get the feeling the momentum is swinging even further toward Tier 1 than ever before.

She has a couple of offers for 3 yr. AROTC scholarships directly from the PMSes in case a 4 yr. does not come out of the last AROTC Board, which I assume will be announced sometime between Apr. 1 and Apr. 15.

[jagabiti]

SAME HERE! Can't understand it really...."I am sorry you were not selected...." Blah Blah Blah....Very shocked to see the news late yesterday for DS. I even had to log out and log back into his portal to read it again.

I have absolutely no idea what they were looking for...does anyone know how many kids were picked up for scholarships? He has a nom for West Point and AFA... wait list for West Point and still haven't gotten anything from AFA, Eagle Scout, Valedictorian of his class and on and on.

At least he has a 4 year for AROTC. Honestly as a mom I was POSITIVE he would be picked up. DS is so much better at it then his dad and I. I feel for everyone who got the same notice. At least the stalking of one less sight is done. Sorta sad though... The end on an era:thumbdown:....

[gonavy2015]

I am so sorry to hear about those of you receiving the "we're sorry" notices. My DS still says "no decision" but I fear it will change to the sorry message any time given where NROTC is in the selection cycle. As I read about all of these very, very qualified kids, I now realize I completely under estimated the competitiveness of NROTC.

[jagabiti]

We also underestimated it as well. DS went to Dukes ROTC and UNC last year and met with the colleges along with ROTC. THey ASSURED him that if he applied for a minor in a lang. that he would automatically get one. Ha guess they were wrong. Oh well. A straight answer would have been better. On to plan B, AROTC 4 year. Still on the hold patern with AFA and West Point.... Good luck everyone!

[luckymacy]

SAME HERE! Can't understand it really...."I am sorry you were not selected...." Blah Blah Blah....Very shocked to see the news late yesterday for DS. I even had to log out and log back into his portal to read it again.

I have absolutely no idea what they were looking for...does anyone know how many kids were picked up for scholarships? He has a nom for West Point and AFA... wait list for West Point and still haven't gotten anything from AFA, Eagle Scout, Valedictorian of his class and on and on.

At least he has a 4 year for AROTC. Honestly as a mom I was POSITIVE he would be picked up. DS is so much better at it then his dad and I. I feel for everyone who got the same notice. At least the stalking of one less sight is done. Sorta sad though... The end on an era:thumbdown:....


What date do think your package get to the board? Was it in their hands before mid November? I'm wondering if they got a lot of December or later packages only to find out that their final scholarship 'budget' was relatively low and they could not offer many more scholarships and if you didn't get your package in around the November or ealier timeframe it became ridiculously competitive amongst those the board reviewed in 2011 for the first time.

[grtkidmom]

Yes NROTC is very competitive. NROTC stated goal is to offer 1830 scholarships to enroll 925 for the incoming 2011-2012.

For the typical majority of applicants (CNSB continuous national selection board) NROTC intends to offer 1133 scholarships to enroll 519. The other approx 400 scholarships include nurse, cyber, immediate scholarship, minority serving institutions and language regional expertise and cultural awareness

[jagabiti]

I believe DS had everything done by Early to mid November. GRRRR. oh well. I am proud of him for trying and getting this far! Congrats to everyone who got one. He's trying to get his AROTC transferred to ERAU Daytona. Hopefully that will work but if not he has a 4 year to Rutgers with another academic one to cover Room and Board. Hope everyone else hears soon!

[NROTCAlumDad]

What date do think your package get to the board? Was it in their hands before mid November? I'm wondering if they got a lot of December or later packages only to find out that their final scholarship 'budget' was relatively low and they could not offer many more scholarships and if you didn't get your package in around the November or ealier timeframe it became ridiculously competitive amongst those the board reviewed in 2011 for the first time.

My son's package was submitted prior to the August 2010 board. The recruiter was practically frantic to get it done, and actually came to our house to get the final paperwork signed. We were told to expect to hear something by September. We've heard nothing since then, and when I called down to P'cola to see if there was some problem with his package, the LT to whom I spoke quickly told me that while my son was undoubtedly very special, so was everyone else. I'm increasingly certain that they lost his package and refuse to look for it. It makes no sense that he's good enough to get into several of the top schools in the country (along with significant merit scholarships), but not good enough for NROTC. I've seen the Navy make some breathtakingly stupid decisions over the years, but this still perplexes me!

[LTLONGAGO]

Hi HappyKat!

Which of his three appointments is your son going to accept, or will he do NROTC? Since he received his appointments several months ago, I am hoping that he has been able to at least determine which service academy he wants to attend by this point, and that he has turned down the other two so that he can free up spots for other kids.

My son immediately turned down AFROTC and AROTC after he received NROTC. He had friends waiting for both AFROTC and AROTC, so he didn't want to tie up scholarship money. He is still waiting on USNA, but is also very happy with his NROTC options.

[Heebs]

I am a college program MIDN and I'm awaiting word on the MO Scholarship. Does anyone have any info on MO 3-year scholarships or notifications of the scholarships?

[marciemi]

DS just got dinged for NROTC as well (status changed to "we're sorry . . ."). I'm glad this is over.

Really sorry to hear this - I was hoping he was going to end up at Harvard NROTC! :redface:

Please let us know how it goes tonight (tonight, right?) for the Ivies! And best of luck to him wherever he may end up (sounds like he's considering the best! :wink: ).

[patentesq]

Really sorry to hear this - I was hoping he was going to end up at Harvard NROTC! :redface:

Please let us know how it goes tonight (tonight, right?) for the Ivies! And best of luck to him wherever he may end up (sounds like he's considering the best! :wink: ).

Hi, marciemi! Yes, tonight was the night for the ivy leagues. DS got dinged from Harvard -- his Facebook status now reads proudly: "Got rejected from Harvard!" He likely wouldn't have posted that if he didn't have USMA. It's funny to read all of his HS classmates posting their thoughts on his Facebook page! I think DS has the right attitude. :thumb:

In any event, DS's list is narrow right now, and I don't want to post that list because it will limit my ability to post questions about ROTC-related subjects without potentially outing him. I would prefer to keep it at School A, School B, and School B at this point.

It seems for NROTC and Harvard this year that "turning water into wine" just wasn't good enough -- candidates had to be able to "turn water into wine AND back into water again" to get the nod. Of course, if you had the right major or had other factors in your favor, the whole water/wine thing may not have been as significant. That's life.

[marciemi]

Hi, marciemi! Yes, tonight was the night for the ivy leagues. DS got dinged from Harvard -- his Facebook status now reads proudly: "Got rejected from Harvard!"

Aw, I'm sorry to hear that. Been reading the Harvard threads over on CC and it's just downright depressing to see the kids that are being rejected. I don't think the water/wine/water thing would even cause them to blink an eye these days! :wink:

Best of luck to your son and I'll be watching to see where he finally decides on! :thumb:

[patentesq]

Best of luck to your son and I'll be watching to see where he finally decides on! :thumb:

At this point, I'd be surprised if it isn't your alma mater! I'm giving him space to reach that conclusion on his own, though (much to the chagrin of USMA admissions!).

[marciemi]

Are they pressuring him at all? I'm kind of surprised because we're being told that they're really not planning on filling any declines so we've kind of been told to back off on talking to our candidates on their decisions. I get the impression more from our RC that he'd prefer we not bring it up to them and then maybe they'll forget about it and it will be fewer slots to fill. :confused: Unless of course they're one of those "other factors in your favor" candidates you mentioned in a previous post, but in that case I probably wouldn't be working with them in the first place (we have special admissions folks for that!).

[patentesq]

Are they pressuring him at all? I'm kind of surprised because we're being told that they're really not planning on filling any declines so we've kind of been told to back off on talking to our candidates on their decisions. I get the impression more from our RC that he'd prefer we not bring it up to them and then maybe they'll forget about it and it will be fewer slots to fill. :confused: Unless of course they're one of those "other factors in your favor" candidates you mentioned in a previous post, but in that case I probably wouldn't be working with them in the first place (we have special admissions folks for that!).

No pressure at all. DS did get an email from the RC saying that there might be some, but that has not materialized. I have to say that I am extremely impressed with USMA admissions. They give you a deadline to make a decision and leave it at that. Overall (I know that I'm biased), if DS selects USMA, they will get a very good cadet. :smile:

[dpt620]

Its March 31st and I still havent heard from NROTC. Anyone in the same boat as me? What does this even mean?

[LHG]

My DS is still waiting. We have not heard from NROTC or USNA. Others?

[NROTCAlumDad]

Its March 31st and I still havent heard from NROTC. Anyone in the same boat as me? What does this even mean?

Still nothing here, either. He got into Georgetown, GW, UVA, Fordham, and several non-NROTC schools (including Columbia and Dartmouth), and was waitlisted at Harvard, Yale, and Stanford. 2220 SAT, 97 GPA, National Hispanic Scholar, Model NATO, three varsity sports, founded his own club to send care packages to deployed troops... Apparently the Navy isn't quite sure about him, though. :confused:

[NewtoNavyDad]

Its March 31st and I still havent heard from NROTC. Anyone in the same boat as me? What does this even mean?

My DS is in the same boat. Completed application in August and haven't heard a word since. Accepted to UVa, BC, GWU wait list at Vanderbilt and Carnegie Mellon, but Navy can't seem to decide. Anyone know how many scholarships have already been awarded?

[patentesq]

Still nothing here, either. He got into Georgetown, GW, UVA, Fordham, and several non-NROTC schools (including Columbia and Dartmouth), and was waitlisted at Harvard, Yale, and Stanford. 2220 SAT, 97 GPA, National Hispanic Scholar, Model NATO, three varsity sports, founded his own club to send care packages to deployed troops... Apparently the Navy isn't quite sure about him, though. :confused:

You have an amazing kid, NROTCAlumDad. Did he also apply to AROTC and AFROTC as well as the SAs?

[danman2811]

Well makes me feel better! I thought at the outset (aka September) that I had a really really good shoot of free college, and now i'm seeing that and thinking, whats goin' on?!? My stats aren't quite as good as yours, but close, so I don't really know what the navy is thinking right now...

[patentesq]

I can't underscore enough the need to apply for EVERYTHING, including AROTC and AFROTC. In the coming years, we may see AROTC and AFROTC being MUCH tougher than NROTC. You can't ever know this in advance.

[pennak]

No pressure at all. DS did get an email from the RC saying that there might be some, but that has not materialized. I have to say that I am extremely impressed with USMA admissions. They give you a deadline to make a decision and leave it at that. Overall (I know that I'm biased), if DS selects USMA, they will get a very good cadet. :smile:

Best of luck to your son patentesq. Sorry to hear about NROTC. That seems unbelievable to me. But then, I was shocked when my DS didn't get MO NROTC with his stats. USMA sounds like a wonderful option!

[patentesq]

Best of luck to your son patentesq. Sorry to hear about NROTC. That seems unbelievable to me. But then, I was shocked when my DS didn't get MO NROTC with his stats. USMA sounds like a wonderful option!

Thank you for the very kind wordsy, pennak. Good luck to your DS, too! We have to be very proud of our boys' willingness to serve our great country. :smile:

[pennak]

What date do think your package get to the board? Was it in their hands before mid November? I'm wondering if they got a lot of December or later packages only to find out that their final scholarship 'budget' was relatively low and they could not offer many more scholarships and if you didn't get your package in around the November or ealier timeframe it became ridiculously competitive amongst those the board reviewed in 2011 for the first time.

I have confirmation of that thesis. For the 4th Marine District, there was a Nov. Board and a Feb. Board for MO NROTC. For the Nov. Board there were 90 applications out of which 45 scholarships were awarded. For the Feb. Board, there were 260 applications out of which 40 scholarships were awarded. The lesson here is not only apply early but be prepared to have a GREAT application early. For MO, that includes a really good first class PFT of 250 or more.

[enived2]

I have confirmation of that thesis. For the 4th Marine District, there was a Nov. Board and a Feb. Board for MO NROTC. For the Nov. Board there were 90 applications out of which 45 scholarships were awarded. For the Feb. Board, there were 260 applications out of which 40 scholarships were awarded. The lesson here is not only apply early but be prepared to have a GREAT application early. For MO, that includes a really good first class PFT of 250 or more.

My son's recruiter rushed him into completing his application for the 1st board in November - specifically because the competition would be much more fierce for the 2nd board in February. He told us the results of the November board would not be released until the February board was finished, then they would release all results at once (8th Marine Corps District, Ft. Worth). My son continued to improve his PFT and took another test in January which was then attached to his application. On March 15th we were notified that he had been awarded a 4 yr MO NROTC scholarship. We don't know if it was awarded from the 1st or 2nd board since his application was submitted twice.

From reading the threads in this forum, I'm stumped as to why my son received the scholarship when so many other deserving young people did not. I'm incredibly proud of him and believe he is as deserving as everyone else. His stats were comparable to most of the applicants I've seen on this site. Because it's been mentioned in threads here, I will state that he is white/caucasion. I know that he had outstanding letters of recommendation and killer essays....that's the only variable that is an unknown in comparison to all the great kids who have applied. His #1 choice was a state school (CU-Boulder) and that is where the scholarship was awarded. That could have played a part, since budget seems to be an issue and the "elite" schools are incredibly expensive.

Now we wait for Dodmerb and hopefully all goes well. My heart goes out to those of you who have gotten the "we're sorry..." response. One door closes and another will open...keep the faith! Good luck to all who are still waiting. It is agony, for sure.

[enived2]

My son was also a Tier 3 major.

[patentesq]

Thanks for that thoughtful and informative post, Too Devine (I mean "enived2" :smile:)! Congrats to your DS! Timing is EVERYTHING!

[enived2]

Thanks for that thoughtful and informative post, Too Devine (I mean "enived2" :smile:)! Congrats to your DS! Timing is EVERYTHING!

You are clever, Patentesq! Actually...last name Devine...2nd born. :wink:

[CandidateInSD]

Stupid question here...but how do you know what tier scholarship you've received? I read and reread his paperwork, but all it says is 4 year scholarship awarded...am I missing something, it seems there has been very little information and communication from them, I had expected more of a packet filled with overwhelming info.

[rule62]

Its March 31st and I still havent heard from NROTC. Anyone in the same boat as me? What does this even mean?

We checked our sons NROTC Status page and it went from 3 lines saying that his application was pending to:

The NSTC Selection/Placement Office has received your application.


Missing Items

All required items have been processed.


Selection Status

No decision has been made on your application.


Additional Information
We have your address and telephone on record as follows:

Address: XXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXX
Phone: XXXXXXXXXX


NOTE: Address and/or phone number changes must be in writing; forward to NSTC by FAX, mail or email.

FAX Number: (850)452-2486
MAIL: NSTC, 250 Dallas Street, N25/081, Pensacola, FL 32508-5220
EMAIL: PNSC_NROTC.scholarship@navy.mil


Your Scholarship Application reflects the following College Choices:
1st College Choice: DUKE UNIVERSITY
2nd College Choice: UNIVERSITY OF SAN DIEGO
3rd College Choice: AUBURN UNIVERSITY
4th College Choice: VANDERBILT UNIVERSITY
4th College Choice: THE GEORGE WASHINGTON UNIVERSITY
Note: College choices are used for placement at a particular NROTC unit only. Placement at a unit does not guarantee you admission to that college. We strongly suggest that you apply to all of your listed choices.

NOTE: You can change your school choices at any point by submitting a request in writing to NSTC (Naval Service Training Command) at:
NSTC OD2
250 Dallas Street Suite A
Pensacola, FL 32508-5268
or FAX (850)452-2486
or EMAIL PNSC_NROTC.scholarship@navy.mil




Your NROTC Scholarship can only be used at a pre-approved NROTC Unit/College.


If you do not know if you should accept or decline a scholarship: you are not obligated in any way if you should accept; it is in your best interest to accept.


Is this a good sign???

[grtkidmom]

OP may have more infor regarding significance of status change. At a minimum it is a change and your file is being reviewed.

Have you verified NROTC battalion enrollment status of top five NROTC schools. You may discover some are full and have to revise your top 5 ranking.

[NROTCAlumDad]

You have an amazing kid, NROTCAlumDad. Did he also apply to AROTC and AFROTC as well as the SAs?


Thanks! He really is pretty amazing, and I'm very proud of him. We come from a Navy/Marine family on both sides (me, my father and brother, my wife's father and brother, two of my nephews). He had no interest in joining the Army or Air Force, nor did he wish to go to any of the academies. He doesn't have dreams of being career Navy, but wanted to carry on the family tradition of service. He was offered a full ride to Fordham, so he's not dependent upon NROTC to pay for school.

[NROTCAlumDad]

OP may have more infor regarding significance of status change. At a minimum it is a change and your file is being reviewed.

Have you verified NROTC battalion enrollment status of top five NROTC schools. You may discover some are full and have to revise your top 5 ranking.


How does one verify enrollment status at the schools? My son e-mailed the CO of his top pick to ask that question, but has not received a response. His recruiter has been generally unhelpful.

[grtkidmom]

How does one verify enrollment status at the schools? My son e-mailed the CO of his top pick to ask that question, but has not received a response. His recruiter has been generally unhelpful.

Call and ask to speak to freshmen adviser, student adviser or admin asst. Responding to your email may not be CO's top priority.

[pennak]

Thanks! He really is pretty amazing, and I'm very proud of him. We come from a Navy/Marine family on both sides (me, my father and brother, my wife's father and brother, two of my nephews). He had no interest in joining the Army or Air Force, nor did he wish to go to any of the academies. He doesn't have dreams of being career Navy, but wanted to carry on the family tradition of service. He was offered a full ride to Fordham, so he's not dependent upon NROTC to pay for school.

Interesting. My DS wants *only* to be a Marine officer. He absolutely refused to apply to the USMA or the AFA or ROTC or AFROTC. Even though I begged to consider broadening his options. So, of course, he got neither MO NROTC nor USNA, despite really solid SAT (1400 and grades (4.0 weighted with lots of AP). So now, it is either SMC or regular NROTC at civilian colleges of which he has been admitted to all to which he applied. Oh well, he has gotten lots of offers of merit scholarships so we will see.

[Jcleppe]

Interesting. My DS wants *only* to be a Marine officer. He absolutely refused to apply to the USMA or the AFA or ROTC or AFROTC. Even though I begged to consider broadening his options. So, of course, he got neither MO NROTC nor USNA, despite really solid SAT (1400 and grades (4.0 weighted with lots of AP). So now, it is either SMC or regular NROTC at civilian colleges of which he has been admitted to all to which he applied. Oh well, he has gotten lots of offers of merit scholarships so we will see.

Has your son considered the PLC program while at college.

[dunninla]

CandidateinSD -- isn't your son's scholarship Marine Option? If so, I don't think there are Tiers... tiers are for Navy Option.

[CandidateInSD]

Thank you so much, I thought I'd lost my mind..mind you, there's virtually nothing left there after this process :biggrin:

[pennak]

Has your son considered the PLC program while at college.

yes, he has. He is also thinking of asking Side Load scholarship during his first year. All options, of course. And no guarantees.

[dpt620]

Came home from track practice today expecting to see the yay or nay. Still nothing. Weren't all decisions supposed to be made by April 1st? Shouldn't we have heard already? I just need to know whether I received a scholarship or not, so I can plan where I'm going next year and how I'm paying for college...Still waiting on USNA too, though I've heard very few appointments go out this late in the game.

[WardNC]

[QUOTE=rule62;180698]We checked our sons NROTC Status page and it went from 3 lines saying that his application was pending to:

The NSTC Selection/Placement Office has received your application.


Missing Items

All required items have been processed.


Selection Status

No decision has been made on your application.


Additional Information
We have your address and telephone on record as follows:

Address: XXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXX
Phone: XXXXXXXXXX


NOTE: Address and/or phone number changes must be in writing; forward to NSTC by FAX, mail or email.

FAX Number: (850)452-2486
MAIL: NSTC, 250 Dallas Street, N25/081, Pensacola, FL 32508-5220
EMAIL: PNSC_NROTC.scholarship@navy.mil


Your Scholarship Application reflects the following College Choices:
1st College Choice: DUKE UNIVERSITY
2nd College Choice: UNIVERSITY OF SAN DIEGO
3rd College Choice: AUBURN UNIVERSITY
4th College Choice: VANDERBILT UNIVERSITY
4th College Choice: THE GEORGE WASHINGTON UNIVERSITY
Note: College choices are used for placement at a particular NROTC unit only. Placement at a unit does not guarantee you admission to that college. We strongly suggest that you apply to all of your listed choices.

NOTE: You can change your school choices at any point by submitting a request in writing to NSTC (Naval Service Training Command) at:
NSTC OD2
250 Dallas Street Suite A
Pensacola, FL 32508-5268
or FAX (850)452-2486
or EMAIL PNSC_NROTC.scholarship@navy.mil




Your NROTC Scholarship can only be used at a pre-approved NROTC Unit/College.


If you do not know if you should accept or decline a scholarship: you are not obligated in any way if you should accept; it is in your best interest to accept.
QUOTE]

DS status did the exact same thing on Tuesday with the "no decision has been made..."

We were curious as well. His application did not get finished until very late in the game because of the interview so I assumed that they had just now looked at his application. So have others seen this change as well? Just curious and clueless at the same time. :shake:

Thanks so much everyone for your help on these forums!
:thumb:

[bjc]

@ rule62 and WardNC -

It's my understanding that once your NROTC application leaves the local recruiting officer and goes to Pensacola, it is reviewed for completeness a second time before it goes before a board. Once it is marked complete and board ready, that's when your status will change to what you are seeing now.

[NROTCAlumDad]

Has your son considered the PLC program while at college.

My wife's brother did PLC in college -- LOVED it!

[NROTCAlumDad]

Still no big news here, but my son recently updated his school choices based upon his acceptances, and someone in Pensacola actually e-mailed back to get clarification. At this point I'm taking ANY communication from the Navy as a good sign!

[NROTCAlumDad]

Well, finally heard from the Navy: "We regret..." This process is broken beyond belief! Good enough for the Ivies and Georgetown, but not for the Navy...

[LTLONGAGO]

I am sending you a PM.

[breadcrumbs]

Case closed for our applicant as well. Sad and terribly disappointed, but undeterred and resolute to commission and serve. I'm so very proud of my kid right now.

[Pima]

My heart goes out to all of you.

As hard as it is to read it really isn't about good enough for the school, but not for the Navy. It is about a limited amount of funds for that cadre. It is similar to getting accepted to a college and types of FA you receive. Some will get merit, some will get FA. Both are worthy of admission, but when the pot of money is divided some just rank higher. It does not mean one is going to be a better student, it means at this time one shined a little bit more.

That is the NROTC system, it is tied to the cadet and the school. If the school is only allotted 1 scholarship and have 10 candidates, 9 are going to get the TWE.

It is not a predictor of their success. Many cadets not on scholarship graduate higher than those on scholarship.

Here are a few realities re:ROTC
1. Minute one that scholarship will not play a part in their success.
~~~Mids don't sort them out into favorites because they have a scholarship and the others don't.

They couldn't care one iota what the NROTC board decided. It is all about you, the mid. Get a scholarship and fall out of the run, they will know your name and not in a good way. Get there and have the highest rank in the cadre even as a non-scholarship mid, they will know your name, but now in a good way.

2. Scholarship recipients are in the minority.

3. On graduation day, most ROTC's will also hold the commissioning ceremony.

~~~ You will not be sitting in the audience waiting to pin on those butter bars thinking about the TWE. It will not even cross your mind.

You will be sitting there beaming from ear to ear, and crying that the child you said goodbye to this August became a man/woman in a blink of an eye.

I get all of the emotions, it is just that I am now a mom of a rising C400 (sr) and views change in time. Isn't that what we always tell our kids? We tell them that there is always a reason, and only time will show it to us.

My very best wishes that all of your kids dreams come true. I also hope you stay the course. It is worth it.

Pima
AFROTC MOM 2012

[MAparent]

Yes NROTC is very competitive. NROTC stated goal is to offer 1830 scholarships to enroll 925 for the incoming 2011-2012.

For the typical majority of applicants (CNSB continuous national selection board) NROTC intends to offer 1133 scholarships to enroll 519. The other approx 400 scholarships include nurse, cyber, immediate scholarship, minority serving institutions and language regional expertise and cultural awareness

Can you let us know where these statistics come from? Would you happen to know where to find the total number of applicants for NROTC scholarship spots in 2011/12.

[gojack]

^^^
Try Here (http://docs.google.com/viewer?a=v&pid=explorer&chrome=true&srcid=1FdxRrCT4bQdnbR-xmxLufHhQsVlyEybNG4yEYAyhOBDegMT6vEviSymkeayQ&hl=en&authkey=CKCrreQJ)?

[NewtoNavyDad]

Well, finally heard from the Navy: "We regret..." This process is broken beyond belief! Good enough for the Ivies and Georgetown, but not for the Navy...

I actually reached Ms. Parker on the phone the other day before they updated the website and she broke the sad news to me also. No scholarship for my son. We prayed hard for it but mostly for acceptance, regardless of the result. As it turns out, the scholarship was not part of God's plan for him. He's undeterred and will be attending Univ of Virginia and will participate under the college program. We are out of state, so yes, it will be a struggle and we'll have to sacrifice alot to pay his way, but I have to think that the scholarship went to some other kid who could otherwise not afford to go to school at all. For all we know, that kid might be a future Bull Halsey or John McCain. To all others similarly situated, lets all remember that there is a reason for everything and our kids are bright and talented and will succeed if they are determined. I have confidence in my son.
To all those on this site, thank you for your wisdom and your guidance throughout these last 8 months and best of luck to all the scholarship recipients.

[LTLONGAGO]

No reason not to join NROTC and try again for the scholarship. Get some help from the UVA NROTC Unit officers. Have that Unit CO do the interview. A 3-year scholarship would be nice. Am guessing that the UVA unit would love to have your child!

[LTLONGAGO]

GoJack,

I think the link you provided showed how many NROTC scholarship offers were projected to be given out and how many of those who received offers were estimated to enroll. Does anyone know how many NROTC applicants there were overall this year? I know they track those numbers, but not sure if they are published. Just curious. Thanks - You seem to be a wealth of real information.

[gojack]

^^^
usually published in the fall at start of school year.