if this is how it works then that is awesome...

[flyboy]

okay, so to my understanding about 2000 candidates were nominated last year, about 1600 were offered appointments, but only around 1200 accepted those appointments. does that mean that the 400 denied appointments were offered to the remaining 400 candidates, and, in effect, every nominee was offered an appointment at one time or another?

[hornetguy]

Kind of. Actually, closer to 13-1400 show up on I-day. So, about 200 deny their appointments, but not everyone is offered another one. It's hard to explain. If you're worried about getting your appointment, quit worrying, I'll see you in July. Worry about that. ;)

[flyboy]

its just that the website is confusing..it says there were 2007 QUALIFIED candidates, but only 1600 appointments were offered, but then it says elsewhere that appointments are offered until the class is full, which means that every qualified candidate should have recieved an appointment because the entering class was not full.
but i guess i will just have to cool my jets about worrying that i wont get an appointment. sometimes though, i cringe at the thought of me having to wait another year to get in....after taking extra classes, more extracurriculars, really striving to step it up, studying my brains out for standardized tests...if i had to go to a J.C. for a year or something i think i would cry :frown:

[nick4060]

i dont know if these numbers are correct, but in the pre-candidate kit they sent us a while back it says about 4500 will receive nominations. So according to that, half of the original 9000 or so candidates will get noms, and out of those, less than half will be qualified.

Again, these numbers could be wrong, but they were sent out by USAFA.

But when you look at it, there are 100 senators and 435 representatives. If most of them nominate 10 people...do the math.

[flyboy]

there might have been more nominees, but only 2007 were qualified- meaning their application and medical status were up to snuff as well. these numbers are correct, but last year could have just been unusual. i thought congressmen were allowed to nominate 5? whatever the case, i'm sure not every congressmen filled up his/her quota- which accounts for about 4500 nominations.

[hornetguy]

MOCs can have 5 people at the academy and can nominate 10 people for each slot that becomes vacant due to graduating or dropping out.

[flyboy]

okay, thanks for that info...and i sure will be thinking about I-day :). by the way, isn't it june 28? because you said july...

[hornetguy]

yes, but I am working 2nd BCT, so I won't be there till 2-3 weeks into BCT. ;)

[flyboy]

ah yes, the second part...jacks peak or something like that. check your private messages

[hornetguy]

Jack's Valley. I will be making sure you don't all die on the A-course, O-course, confidence course, PT, etc.

[flyboy]

sweet. well, from what i know about you so far i have confidence that we will all make it out of there alive, and hopefully in one piece :).

p.s. i really appreciate the help you are providing me with, but, please, never feel pressured to answer my never-ending questions because i KNOW you have a million things going on, and these questions are important, but i do have a few months to get them answered :), and i do have other sources.

[hornetguy]

pfft. I just got back from 2.5 hours of blue's dancing. I have so much work to do. ;) I enjoy helping others out, so do not mind. If its a dumb question, I'll mock you incessantly, then keep answering. ;) :)

[flyboy]

blues dancing? very nice. and i'll try to keep the dumb questions under 100 for the both of us ;)

[hornetguy]

blue's dancing, for lack of better words, is like sex on the dance floor. Not the adolescent grinding that a junior high person would do, but a sensual and amazing dance to just about any music. Sometimes I finish a song and just have to stop for a second if my partner and I really connected. It's amazing. :) One of my biggest joys here along with swing dancing and skiing.

[flyboy]

ummm....could you elaborate on the blues dancing? because i certainly do not want to go to usafa to find a bunch of bump and grind...i can get that at a lesser, not as prestigous or honorable college. in fact, one of the reasons why i chose usafa was because it will help me to "keep in line" and i will not be subject to the whims and pressures of today's college junky idiots.

[hornetguy]

bump and grind is an insult to blue's, it is not that crap. It is a cross between ballroom, swing, and latin. Think of "Take the Lead" movie. It is not dirty at all. It's an emotional type dance. Look it up on wikipedia. Think of the sex appeal of the Tango in what I'm saying, not a junior high grind line.

As far as keeping in line, ya, good luck with that here. We work hard and play hard.

[flyboy]

okay, thanks for clarifying, that kind of dance sounds more like the academy. BTW, when you say "play hard" what exactly do you mean? because, believe me, i can fully understand that in order to keep sane at an academy like this, one has to be able to goof off to one's content to a certain degree. but i DID choose usafa to keep away from the drug and alcohol-ridden parties, constant promiscuosity, the lying, cheating, etc. that goes on in most of today's universities. and i do know that every college will have this crap to a certain extent, but i expect usafa to basically be beyond reproach in these areas. am i wrong?

[hornetguy]

No you are not. I hardly mean drugs, booze, sex, and other immoral things. I'll explain after class..

[flyboy]

okay, cool. (this is the kind of information that you can't get off of academyadmissions.com!)

[hornetguy]

We can do crazy things in the halls. Hall brawls (50 person wrestling matches), "carrier landings" (slip and slide in the halls), random dance parties in the hall (always spontaneous), quad raves, etc. etc. Then, of course, going out to ski/board, dance, etc. Always a good time!

[flyboy]

oooookay. you had me worried a bit, but now i understand. these acitivites sound like good fun! are freshmen limited in these fun-filled activities?

[hornetguy]

Can't do blue's dancing....but I doubt that's a problem. ;) Everything else you are pretty good.

[flyboy]

sweet. another question :). i have contacts right now. my year prescription will end right before i enter the academy (assuming i make it that is), and i want to keep wearing contacts- does the academy take care of that? also, will wearing contacts prohibit me from skydiving and/or soaring?

[hornetguy]

They will not stop you from soaring or jump. I had friends jump with contacts in (you have goggles). I'm not sure if the academy takes care of contacts though. They will give you some of the sexiest glasses you've ever seen!

[flyboy]

do they give you sunglasses? that would be cool :). but yea, i really dont want to wear prescription glasses, i would MUCH rather wear contacts. i can get another year's worth prescription before i leave, but maybe not, and after that i will probably have to rely on the academy. but i'm happy that i can still soar and jump with contacts!!

[hornetguy]

No sunglasses for you. You can use your own prescription while you're here I believe.

[flymom]

Hey Hornet,

It's nice to see you covering both forums. I was wondering, what kind of injuries, ailments, etc. do you see as an EMT? Do you see much dyspnea from the high altitudes when a new class starts?

Thanks!

[hornetguy]

I have not worked as an EMT for BCT yet (nor will I for the beginning of BCT), so I have not seen it in cadets. Saw it at a football game last year with a woman in the stands.

I work intramurals now, so I mainly see shin gashes from soccer, twisted ankles, and then I've dealt with several people in the dorms around me getting so sick they hyperventilate or start fainting. I just stabilize them and take them to the hospital. However, some of my off days people have had broken legs, twice from soccer. lol.

I expect to see a lot of little stuff and some bigger stuff in BCT.

[flymom]

Where's the nearest hospital?? ....a mom needs to know these things...:wink:

Thanks!

[zachogden]

I think there is a medical facility on campus.

[LineInTheSand]

They will give you some of the sexiest glasses you've ever seen!




BCGs......very nice, and they totally work.

[hornetguy]

Our hospital is all of a 10 minute drive from the cadet area. No worries.

LITS- define work please! They seem to work in many areas to include seeing and declining birth rates! :)

[Pima]

Quick question ... how many cadets who are suppose to wear glasses, actually ditch them and squint through all of their classes :shake:

[flymom]

Is that 10 minutes speeding in an ambulance or 10 minutes going the speed limit??--okay, just kidding..It's nice to know it's close by. Please take care of our 2012ers this summer, Hornet!

Great ? Pima, I wondered the same thing myself. I was assuming if you had an Rx they would enforce wearing them. My D can't see a thing without hers so she'll be sporting the BCG's. :cool:

[LineInTheSand]

My D can't see a thing without hers so she'll be sporting the BCG's. :cool:



BCGs are a father's best friend.


Hornetguy, exactly, they work for both.

I wish I could have gotten my hands on a pair, some days, out of the blue, some people would dress a little "locked on"....slick down their hair into a tight neat thing on their heads, with a part, and put on a sweater, woolly pullies (sp?), and wear the BCGs...instructors seemed to like it enough. It was rare, but it did happen.

[hornetguy]

why the speed limit of course! 15 minutes in snow. ;)

If you have that bad of vision, you will be miserable if you don't wear glasses...

LITS- many do that here, cracks me up! Also, lots of people will pull the socks high and sport the BCGs for the PFT/AFT.