USNA Class of 2028 Waiting and Speculating

Aksel2028 said:
My DD did not do CVW or NASS. Eventually appointed to NAPS. From what I have learned from this forum is that NASS, CVW and STEM DO NOT affect appointments - as NavyHoops stated AA these are recruiting and PR events.
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on USNA webpage, they list NASS as competitive --- that is the fact. When you get it turned down -- it means you are not competitive for this application -- logically it makes sense. Right ?
 
gniyji said:
I meant we could easily anticipate our application TD based on NASS TD and very long pending (considering rolling admission) It was the same story -- wait and wait until last day they turned him down.

It may not be related to most of others -- but it happened to us -- we tend to believe so. It certainly helped us to anticipate what really happened -- TD as expected.
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I'm certain those two things are mutually exclusive. Everyone should have a realistic acceptance and expectation it may not work out.
 
Aksel2028 said:
My DD did not do CVW or NASS. Eventually appointed to NAPS. From what I have learned from this forum is that NASS, CVW and STEM DO NOT affect appointments - as NavyHoops stated AA these are recruiting and PR events.
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they do in the sense that cadre writes a report on the kids and that goes into the admissions file
 
gniyji said:
on USNA webpage, they list NASS as competitive --- that is the fact. When you get it turned down -- it means you are not competitive for this application -- logically it makes sense. Right ?
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It means they have limited space for the program, and have a different selection criteria for NASS.

It has no bearing on competitiveness for USNA.

My son didn’t look into USNA until his junior year. Never applied to anything.
 
A1Janitor said:
It means they have limited space for the program, and have a different selection criteria for NASS.

It has no bearing on competitiveness for USNA.

My son didn’t look into USNA until his junior year. Never applied to anything.
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Clearly not everything. But it means something. This is 2015 - But potentially 40% attended summer session is a crazy number.
 
Waitandsee said:
Clearly not everything. But it means something. This is 2015 - But potentially 40% attended summer session is a crazy number.
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Correlation does not mean causation.

This is a competition on slates. Are there WPS points awarded for NASS?

Would my son have not been appointed if someone else on his slate that scored less than him went to NASS?
 
NavyHoops said:
It takes facilities, time, desire and a Cadet or Mid to take the time to develop the club. It takes a lot. USNA has a lot of great aquatic facilities, but with water polo, swimming, PE, remedial swimming, those facilities are taxed.
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Good point. Also, club sport list ebbs and grows every year. For example, For class of 2026, there was no club soccer season/team. For class of 2027, there was a club soccer team..
 
We were so naive to wait for NASS long pending believing DS was competitive enough but maybe lived close enough to USNA (so we did not need early notification for travel logistics ) and declined some swimming competition that conflicted the session -:) The fact that NASS is also a rolling admission, we were so dumb ! So it really helped us to low expectation on this application -- another long pending and then TD.
 
Waitandsee said:
40% is a huge number. Then if you eliminate the number of enlisted etc that may be getting appointments and that % is probably higher. The point is it ain't everything but it ain't nothin either. But, carry on.
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I would expect lots of kids who end up getting appointments to have attended Summer Seminar. At the same time, admissions is very clear, attending Summer Seminar has no bearing on receiving an appointment.

The last CVW my kid attended the dean did his usual thing and called like 5 or 6 kids onto the stage to present them with their LOAs. He then made it a point to ask them how many attended Summer Seminar. I think only 2 had attended.
 
Edmund said:
I would expect lots of kids who end up getting appointments to have attended Summer Seminar. At the same time, admissions is very clear, attending Summer Seminar has no bearing on receiving an appointment.

The last CVW my kid attended the dean did his usual thing and called like 5 or 6 kids onto the stage to present them with their LOAs. He then made it a point to ask them how many attended Summer Seminar. I think only 2 had attended.
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Not arguing...just that 40% is a number that caught my eye. Make of it as you will.
 
Navymom0502 said:
May I ask if attending NAPS is then an automatic appointment to USNA the following year?
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No, of course not. NAPS as well as Foundation appointments are from the current year's application pool. Appointment to either means the USNA wants the candidate but believes a an extra year of preparation will ensure that MID makes it to commissioning day. Hence, the term, "The Golden Ticket".
 
Old Navy BGO said:
NOT AT ALL ... this has been addressed repeatedly on SAF. There are many successful applicants that didn't get into NASS.
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These two applications differ from the data. NASS application is a subset of admission application. It really depends how these two applications submitted and viewed by USNA --- I still believe that the profile of my DS led to double TDs. Certainly each case is different. I am not claiming these two are related for others -- just for our own case.
 
I think that parents and kids are "fooled" into believing that being offered a weekend visit via CVW and/or being accepted to the NASS event somehow indicates that Academy Admissions wants the applicant, like a blue-chip football recruit being wooed by the head coach of a nationally ranked D1 football program.

Yes, it is nice to have the experience for your DS/DD but remember it is for the candidate to see if the USNA is a good fit for them and to inspire those who believe so to continue through the application process. Also, it has been stated on this forum by the long-term moderators that attendance to NASS, CVW and STEM school, is not an admission factor.

The 40% number bandied about is what in statistics is called self-selecting. These candidates would have most likely been admitted even if the NASS/CVW/STEM programs did not exist.

Same for the LOA. So many stories on this forum about candidates receiving an LOA (some as early as August!) and having a stellar resume and even being a "recruited" athlete not getting an appointment.
 
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