NASS rejection, next step?

Stage4survivor

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Surprisingly to me, one of my sons wants to pursue entrance to the Academy! I told him to find out what the next steps are himself.
I understand by applying for NASS the process has been started but, I'm not sure exactly what the next step is, do they automatically receive further instructions and an admission packet? I'll stay in the shadows in any event.
They both did well on the ACT, one really well.
I also learned 2 friends from their HS were denied NASS, too. Not sure what to make of that!

Thanks
 
From the Naval Academy admissions website:

"A preliminary application must be submitted to become an official candidate for next year’s entering class. If you have applied for our Summer Seminar program, please do not submit a preliminary application.

After being designated as an official candidate for admission, all applicants will be notified by mail. Within your candidate letter will be important instructions on how to proceed with the application process (sent no earlier than mid-May).

The preliminary application form is for students who will be graduating from high school in 2011. Students who graduated before 2011 should also use this form."
 
From the Naval Academy admissions website:

"A preliminary application must be submitted to become an official candidate for next year’s entering class. If you have applied for our Summer Seminar program, please do not submit a preliminary application.

After being designated as an official candidate for admission, all applicants will be notified by mail. Within your candidate letter will be important instructions on how to proceed with the application process (sent no earlier than mid-May).

The preliminary application form is for students who will be graduating from high school in 2011. Students who graduated before 2011 should also use this form."
I wasn't quite sure about "being designated as an official candidate". I guess we wait for a letter maybe later this month.
 
Stage4Survivor,

Is there a candidate number on the rejection letter that your son received? It should be located on the top left-hand corner. If so, then he has been designated an official candidate. (This might seem confusing because he was denied to NASS. However, there are plenty of people that get denied but are still rewarded candidate numbers). The candidate number he is given can be used on the CIS (Candidate Information System), an online database where the applications for the Academy are completed. However, there is a password needed to access the CIS, and those do not come in the acceptance/denial letters for NASS. I'm not sure how to get the password, as mine has not been sent through the mail. Perhaps giving Admissions a call will do the trick.

Best of luck to you and your son!
 
Stage4Survivor,

Is there a candidate number on the rejection letter that your son received? It should be located on the top left-hand corner. If so, then he has been designated an official candidate. (This might seem confusing because he was denied to NASS. However, there are plenty of people that get denied but are still rewarded candidate numbers). The candidate number he is given can be used on the CIS (Candidate Information System), an online database where the applications for the Academy are completed. However, there is a password needed to access the CIS, and those do not come in the acceptance/denial letters for NASS. I'm not sure how to get the password, as mine has not been sent through the mail. Perhaps giving Admissions a call will do the trick.

Best of luck to you and your son!
Thanks, I'm not sure if we kept the denial letters, I do remember seeing a number but, I believe it was identical for both sons. I'll look later and perhaps call the Academy.
 
my son recieve a waitlist letter and his friend recieved a rejection letter. BOTH letters stated that they were competative enough to become a candidate. It also said that during mid May they would receive their candidate number and application login information.

I also know someone who got rejected but it thanked them for applying and did not mention anything about receivng additional imformation regarding getting a number or login so they are assuming they aren't competative enough.
 
Kids smarter than Dad

my son recieve a waitlist letter and his friend recieved a rejection letter. BOTH letters stated that they were competative enough to become a candidate. It also said that during mid May they would receive their candidate number and application login information.

I also know someone who got rejected but it thanked them for applying and did not mention anything about receivng additional imformation regarding getting a number or login so they are assuming they aren't competative enough.
I believe our rejection letters were of the latter type but, not certain. They put the Academy down to have their ACT scores forwarded to so, at least one sons scores may "catch their eye", who knows.
It's funny how I perceive my twin sons as applicants. One is a maybe, the other would volunteer to be commandant and likely be successful and not think it's any big deal.
I asked him the other day, while discussing being a Naval officer, if he could order men into battle knowing some would die? He replied yes cuz he might die too.
 
Check with your BGO. As of May 1, candiates for 2015 have been loaded into our systems. BGOs not only have "official candidates," but also those who we are asked to "contact and counsel." This typically means USNA does not yet consider them competitive enough (usually because of SAT/ACT scores but possibly grades as well) to be an official candidate.

In any event, the BGO should be able to tell your son his status -- and his candidate #, if he's been assigned one. If the BGO doesn't have him listed, your son should follow up with USNA. Be sure to have your son do it -- no matter how busy he is -- USNA doesn't look favorably on moms & dads who do all the legwork for their kids.
 
Check with your BGO. As of May 1, candiates for 2015 have been loaded into our systems. BGOs not only have "official candidates," but also those who we are asked to "contact and counsel." This typically means USNA does not yet consider them competitive enough (usually because of SAT/ACT scores but possibly grades as well) to be an official candidate.

In any event, the BGO should be able to tell your son his status -- and his candidate #, if he's been assigned one. If the BGO doesn't have him listed, your son should follow up with USNA. Be sure to have your son do it -- no matter how busy he is -- USNA doesn't look favorably on moms & dads who do all the legwork for their kids.
Don't have a BGO, that I know of. We informally spoke to Robert Madden at college night about a month ago but, we don't have an official BGO
 
Everyone has a BGO. :smile: You just may not know who it is yet.:smile: Other than for college and home-schooled students, BGOs are typically assigned by high school. Thus, your son's school guidance counselor may have his/her contact info.

If not, if you go to the on-line catalog (available at usna.edu), it will list all of the Area Coordinators and their contact info. ACs are typically assigned to an entire state, although very populous ones are by region within states. Call/email that individual, indicate the school your son attends and he/she will be able to give you contact info for your BGO.
 
Everyone has a BGO. :smile: You just may not know who it is yet.:smile: Other than for college and home-schooled students, BGOs are typically assigned by high school. Thus, your son's school guidance counselor may have his/her contact info.

If not, if you go to the on-line catalog (available at usna.edu), it will list all of the Area Coordinators and their contact info. ACs are typically assigned to an entire state, although very populous ones are by region within states. Call/email that individual, indicate the school your son attends and he/she will be able to give you contact info for your BGO.
Robert Madden, who we met is a BGO, not sure if he's OUR BGO, I have his business card so, I'll call him.
Thanks
 
Tell your son not to give up. My godson did not get accepted to NASS, and he graduated from USNA with a perfect GPA within the past few years. good luck!
 
Our eldest son didn't apply to NASS, didn't even know about it until a buddy who was accepted told him he was going. His buddy didn't get USNA (he is on a full NROTC) ... our son is finishing his plebe year at USNA ...
there are many ways to get to the same end ... if USNA is what you really want, apply. Just have a back up plan! We did
 
Not discouraged

I am their father, twins. *I'm* the one who was disappointed about the NASS rejection because I felt it would encourage them to make a decision.
As I stated earlier, to my surprise, one plans to pursue applying and thinks nothing of the NASS rejection. His brother is now "on the fence".

Question about visiting the Academy. We plan to visit many colleges in the coming months, can you just "show up" at the gate and ask to take a look around or do you need to request permission for a formal visit of some sort?

Thanks
 
Last month my boys went to Washington DC with thier School and I was a Chaperone. My son really wanted to see the Academy, so the next morning I rented a car in DC and we drove to Annapolis. We parked at the Navy Stadium and took the shuttle bus. The bus dropped us off right at the gate and we walked in, security requested to see our ID's (drivers license), and our 14 yr old did not have to have ID. We went to the Visitors Center and purchased tour tickets or you can tour on your own. I would recommend taking the tour, it was really interesting.

After the tour we stopped in at Admissions and they have daily scheduled presentations, it was pretty interesting, you can also talk to admissions officers, very laid back. It was nice!! Then we walked around the grounds which had so much activity, it was "after classes", and all the sports and running was happening. It was awesome to watch.

We left the academy and walked a couple blocks to a restaurant for dinner, and caught the shuttle bus right in front of the restaurant back to the Stadium, drove back to DC and joined our group!! It really was a great highlight of the trip and so worth it!! No reservations needed!
 
Last month my boys went to Washington DC with thier School and I was a Chaperone. My son really wanted to see the Academy, so the next morning I rented a car in DC and we drove to Annapolis. We parked at the Navy Stadium and took the shuttle bus. The bus dropped us off right at the gate and we walked in, security requested to see our ID's (drivers license), and our 14 yr old did not have to have ID. We went to the Visitors Center and purchased tour tickets or you can tour on your own. I would recommend taking the tour, it was really interesting.

After the tour we stopped in at Admissions and they have daily scheduled presentations, it was pretty interesting, you can also talk to admissions officers, very laid back. It was nice!! Then we walked around the grounds which had so much activity, it was "after classes", and all the sports and running was happening. It was awesome to watch.

We left the academy and walked a couple blocks to a restaurant for dinner, and caught the shuttle bus right in front of the restaurant back to the Stadium, drove back to DC and joined our group!! It really was a great highlight of the trip and so worth it!! No reservations needed!
Thanks, that's encouraging to know. Did you go early in the day?
 
We arrived at the academy about 11:45, bought our tour tickets for the next tour which I think was 1pm, and we walked really fast to see them gather for inspection before lunch in front of Bancroft Hall. That was really neat to see.
 
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Everyone has a BGO. :smile: You just may not know who it is yet.:smile: Other than for college and home-schooled students, BGOs are typically assigned by high school. Thus, your son's school guidance counselor may have his/her contact info.

If not, if you go to the on-line catalog (available at usna.edu), it will list all of the Area Coordinators and their contact info. ACs are typically assigned to an entire state, although very populous ones are by region within states. Call/email that individual, indicate the school your son attends and he/she will be able to give you contact info for your BGO.
Hmmm? I left a VM message for Robert Madden 2 weeks ago and no call back. Not sure what to make of that?

S4S
 
My son was rejected for NASS and received appointment to USNA in February. Don't worry about it, at least you are now in the admissions system. Once the Candidate Information System for calss of 2015 is up, your son's info will have been transferred to that and he can begin the application. Have him do that as soon as available because it will then trigger a DoDMERB physical after a certain percentage has been completed. Also, please encourage him to apply to all ROTC programs. These kids change their minds in regards to academies and military branch. I've had one son who was only wanting USAFA and ended up in Army ROTC (Happy as can be!) and my younger son who only wanted Army ROTC....then USAFA...and is now going to be at USNA. As they learn more, they can make their decisions and you will know that it is an informed decision.
 
Candidate#

Funny, neither son has received a candidate number in the mail, as I've read so many here have.

Puzzling, no contact since NASS denial letters
 
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