Issued a warning?

Jabbawocky007

Jabbawocky007

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So I've applied to USAFA (Candidate status) and AFROTC. I haven't had a criminal record until now...I think. Today I was pulled over for speeding and got off with a warning.

Would that be something to add to my application? I'm not sure, because its just a warning. I don't have to go to court or pay anything or go to defensive driving.
 
I had to laugh when I read this.

No, you don't have to report being pulled over for a warning.

Heck, I don't think even traffic tickets matter.

Now, if you had a felony or warrant or something, that might red flag admissions.:biggrin:
 
I received a speeding ticket after I got my appointment and I was fine. Don't worry about it, there is nothing to worry about.

Later,

Brian
 
lol, don't worry about it dude. It seriously isn't a big deal. Don't let it happen again, but if it does, you just tell admissions what happened and they will clear it up. It is no issue posting it on here. Do not hide anything. "If you mess up, fess up." At this point, no need to bring it up unless there is a reason since it wasn't a real ticket, but if you ever do get a ticket, admissions should be the first to know. I called them within an hour of getting my ticket. You will be fine.

Later,

Brian
 
Midn'12 said:
Take that to the grave dude, dont tell anyone or you will get rejected. I had a buddy who got a warning for arguing with an off duty cop, and his package was sent back to him. Seriously, you shouldn't even have posted that on here. Try to delete this if you can.
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I doubt it. Traffic violations are not like arguing with cops, and I don't think it's right to advise him to keep it in the dark. It's a legitimate question. I don't think you'll have to worry about it, Jabbawocky. I doubt they'll not let you in just because you sped.
 
fly boy said:
I doubt it. Traffic violations are not like arguing with cops, and I don't think it's right to advise him to keep it in the dark. It's a legitimate question. I don't think you'll have to worry about it, Jabbawocky. I doubt they'll not let you in just because you sped.
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It might just be me, but I sense scarcasim in Midn's post.
 
From a legal standpoint, nothing happened. You had a conversation with a police officer. Read your application materials carefully. If they ask if you have ever received a "verbal warning" you would disclose, but otherwise what happened does not come under the heading of arrest, detention, ticket, citation, etc, which is usually what government forms ask about.
 
So this falls under the "Don't Ask Don't Tell" policy? :D Er..."Tell Only If Asked"

I figured as much, it said on the warning something like "this does not affect your driving record" so I guess its fine. I'm just super-paranoid because I think I'm on the fence on getting into USAFA or not, and the littleist thing could push me off on the wrong side.
 
If it doesn't "affect your driving record" it should mean you do not have a record. If you really want to be sure, though, you might ask your ALO. lastly, practices vary by locality/jurisdiction, so if you had a family friend who was a police officer or lawyer, you might show them the document you received to confirm that it is not the equivalent of a ticket/citation. From what you describe, though, you do not have any sort of "record" even at the traffic infraction level.
 
OK, time for a stupid analogy.

A WARNING, in this context, is synonymous with the word "ALMOST". You "ALMOST" got a ticket. You "ALMOST" had to pay a fine. You "ALMOST" possibly had points accumulated on a traffic record that you "ALMOST" had established for you.

That is like "ALMOST" being pregnant. Ummmmm, no such thing. You ARE..... or you're NOT!!! There's no kind of, sort of, possibly, maybe.....

Did you get a ticket... Yes/No?
Did you have to pay a fine..... Yes/No?
Did you have points accessed against your driving record.... Y/N?
Did you have to sign anything presented to you by the police officer... Y/N?
Did the police officer tell you to report to court or similar, to contest anything... Y/N???
Did you get pregnant.... Y/N

Sorry, for my low class sense of humor, but it really is a very good analogy. There are some things in life that are finite. They have definite parameters. (Hence the root word of "deFINITE".) Well, "ALMOST"s don't count here.

Anyone ever watch the movie "STRIPES"? In the beginning, in the army recruiter's office, the recruiter asks Bill Murry and Harold Ramis. NO, NOT RAMIUS..... Sorry dude. Anyway, the recruiter asks them a typical military question on the application: "Have you ever been convicted of a felony". To which, Bill Murry says: "Ummm no, no, NEVER CONVICTED".

So, I guess my opinion is obvious. You did NOT get a speeding ticket, so there is nothing for you to report. Best of luck. Mike.....
 
Christcorp said:
OK, time for a stupid analogy.

A WARNING, in this context, is synonymous with the word "ALMOST". You "ALMOST" got a ticket. You "ALMOST" had to pay a fine. You "ALMOST" possibly had points accumulated on a traffic record that you "ALMOST" had established for you.

That is like "ALMOST" being pregnant. Ummmmm, no such thing. You ARE..... or you're NOT!!! There's no kind of, sort of, possibly, maybe.....

Did you get a ticket... Yes/No?
Did you have to pay a fine..... Yes/No?
Did you have points accessed against your driving record.... Y/N?
Did you have to sign anything presented to you by the police officer... Y/N?
Did the police officer tell you to report to court or similar, to contest anything... Y/N???
Did you get pregnant.... Y/N

Sorry, for my low class sense of humor, but it really is a very good analogy. There are some things in life that are finite. They have definite parameters. (Hence the root word of "deFINITE".) Well, "ALMOST"s don't count here.

Anyone ever watch the movie "STRIPES"? In the beginning, in the army recruiter's office, the recruiter asks Bill Murry and Harold Ramis. NO, NOT RAMIUS..... Sorry dude. Anyway, the recruiter asks them a typical military question on the application: "Have you ever been convicted of a felony". To which, Bill Murry says: "Ummm no, no, NEVER CONVICTED".

So, I guess my opinion is obvious. You did NOT get a speeding ticket, so there is nothing for you to report. Best of luck. Mike.....
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:yllol:

My AP Govt teacher used an analogy like this today. Saying that you can't be very pregnant. You are or you aren't. We were talking about a "more perfect union."

Sorry to get off topic, this just amused me. :biggrin:
 
Not to stay off topic, but I took a class specifically on the constitution and other historical documents. The class was actually on the change of language and communications. And "A More Perfect Union" was brought up a few times. Of course, in today's society, most people believe anything is possible. Therefor, perfection is attainable. Therefor, saying "A More Perfect Union" is not possible; because PERFECT is PERFECT. It can't become more. However, in the 1700's, as well as most of time, perfection was NEVER considered attainable. And while it's not possible to reach "perfection", you can strive to become a better person or whatever by still having perfection as a goal; albeit, reaching perfection is not possible. Therefor, "A More Perfect Union" refers to a Union that is "CLOSER towards perfection than it was PREVIOUSLY". Thus, the goal of the constitution was to bring the country CLOSER towards Perfection. Which is NEVER attainable; however, you can work towards it. Anyway, more useless trivia, but sometimes interesting.
 
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