What are my chances?

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Nelson Rock

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Hi I just completed my AFROTC Scholarship Application.
I have a 3.46 (my low point) and a 27 on the ACT (27 on all but math which is a 25) I have at least 200 service hours through my church and scouting. I am an Eagle Scout and within my troop I am a junior assistant scout master. I do varsity track, which I have 4 letters for and I am team captain in the spring. I work part time at a local fun park managing rides. My pft scores were 59 push ups 54 sit ups and a 10:26 mile and half. (Not so good right now)
I have a lot of leadership experience but my GPA is what I am worried about.
My intended major is aeronautical or mechanical engineering at BYU or The University of Utah or Utah Valley University. I haven't had my interview yet but I hope that goes well.
I was just wondering if I have a chance to get a scholarship.
Also I am planning on serving a 2 year LDS mission after my freshman year so will that effect me in any way?
 
Nelson Rock said:
Also I am planning on serving a 2 year LDS mission after my freshman year so will that effect me in any way?
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I think this will be a problem. I think all the branches want cadets to complete a degree in 4-years and start serving. There is a lot of effort that goes into making this happen. If you plan to do a mission between the freshman and sophmore years you might want to pursue a 2-year or 3-year on-campus scholarship after you return from the misssion.
 
Leave of Absence for LDS Mission or reason

Nelson Rock said:
Thanks for the reply. Anyone else have some advise?
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Contact the PMS at BYU or any school on your list in Utah. They will likely have the correct answer and options. There are other ROTC cadets that participate in Missions even from the Service Academies. Just my opinion
 
Nelson Rock, I should have said contact the Unit Admissions Officer at BYU....Your reference is AFROTC. I said PMS which is AROTC. Similar criteria exist however for a Leave of Absence.
 
Why don't you apply and find out, that's the only way to know.
 
wait? You are on varsity track but you run a 10:26 mile and half?
 
Vanir said:
wait? You are on varsity track but you run a 10:26 mile and half?
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I was told that the PFA score is a very, very small factor in the scholarship decision. Essentially, it's only used in a dead tie scenario.
 
jdalv,

Overall in the big scheme it is very little points, but the AFROTC scholarships are very competitive and every point matters. It is not a dead tie scenario factor it is a part of your WCS. You will get a score for the PFA and that will go into your WCS. It is not like the college essay, where it can be a tie breaker. The points matter and you don't want to be the one getting the thin envelope because you were lazy and thought your grades would get you in.


Not only that, but when you get to the det., your PFA will matter in your ranking in the det. When you have to compete nationally for a spot for summer training that PFA at college (because it is tied to your det rank) will matter.

The PFA is one thing you have total control over, use that opportunity to gain as many points as you can by maxing it out. In the end of the day the scholarship committee will say X points is the line, above it you get a scholarship below it and you don't. It would be sad to fall below it because you didn't practice, practice, practice the PFA before submitting the scores.

10:26 for 1 1/2 miles is a 7 minute mile, so it isn't a shabby score on a whole compared to other candidates. I believe the max points are 5:30 mile= 8:15 1 1/2, and 13 is the bad end. I won't swear by those numbers, but I believe that is the ball park.
 
Nelson Rock,

It is very hard to assess whether or not you are qualified. The Air Force looks at you as a "whole person" and compares you to other people in your specific year. It all depends on who you are up against and how much money the Air Force has. PT scores don't matter very much before you are on scholarship, it is just to ensure that you have some level of fitness. Good luck! Air power!
 
Cooper1234,

Just because you are on Varsity Track doesn't mean you are a fast runner. You forget that it is actually Track and Field. Our co-captain on the Track team finished first in the Discus and second in the Shot Put at state. He would have been very pleased if he could have run a 10:26 mile and half. The slowest Varsity runner ran the 2 mile in 10:10. Be careful how you catagorize sports. We had a kid who participated in the wheelchair races as well, I don't think he would appreciate the comment. Respect goes both ways, remember that.
 
During the interview for AFROTC, we were told that 75 is passing on the PFT, but higher is better.
 
BTW, the first AFROTC boards meet next week with letters coming out toward the end of the month. They also meet in January, February, and March.
 
Jcleppe said:
Cooper1234,

Just because you are on Varsity Track doesn't mean you are a fast runner. You forget that it is actually Track and Field. Our co-captain on the Track team finished first in the Discus and second in the Shot Put at state. He would have been very pleased if he could have run a 10:26 mile and half. The slowest Varsity runner ran the 2 mile in 10:10. Be careful how you catagorize sports. We had a kid who participated in the wheelchair races as well, I don't think he would appreciate the comment. Respect goes both ways, remember that.
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Exactly. I was co- track captain and I threw shotput and discuss. So for me, running the 1.5 sub 12 minutes was great for me. Though, I did make sure I maxed out on pushups to show them I wasn't out of shape.
 
I'm actually a high jumper. And track is out of season so I'm outa shape. Jumpers don't really need to run so that's my excuse. Thanks everyone for replying though I appreciate it.
 
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