DADT fails movement in senate 57-40

I read the link, watched the news and I really wish they would give more details regarding the procedural issue.

In a press conference after the vote, Sens. Joe Lieberman and Susan Collins announced that they will introduce a stand-alone bill to repeal "Don't Ask Don't Tell" and that Senate Majority Leader Reid has promised to support it. Reid told Lieberman that he will bring the legislation up for a vote before the end of the lame duck session, the Connecticut lawmaker said.

I am too lazy to find the bill and try to figure it out, all I will say is this stuff is what ticks me off regarding politics. They throw crap into a bill as riders that never belonged in the bill to start with!
 
I read the link, watched the news and I really wish they would give more details regarding the procedural issue.



I am too lazy to find the bill and try to figure it out, all I will say is this stuff is what ticks me off regarding politics. They throw crap into a bill as riders that never belonged in the bill to start with!
Here it is Pima: http://www.govtrack.us/congress/bill.xpd?bill=s111-4022

While I don't have the highest of hopes, I think many people on this forum, regardless of their positions on the issue will agree, this bill squarely places responsibility for the sole decision of DADT on lawmakers. No one can hide behind any procedural arguments or other aspects of the bill (like NDAA). If any Dem or Repub (or indy) votes for or against, they can't blame another part of the bill (for the most part) since it is a direct vote and not amended to something larger. I think CC brought that up several weeks ago that we needed a bill just for DADT so responsibility was brought to bear.

Probably just blowing smoke and paying lip-service. We shall see.

I really do agree, better to take leg action than wait on the courts. The ability to control the repeal is much better with leg action than court action.
 
Actually your link is the new one that is discussed in CC's link and what I quoted. It is not the bill voted down.

I am curious about what was in the old bill that people voted against it from a procedural standpoint.
 
House passes 'don't ask, don't tell' repeal

House passes 'don't ask, don't tell' repeal

December 15, 2010 5:39 p.m. EST

Washington (CNN) -- The House of Representatives voted Wednesday to overturn the ban on openly gay and lesbian soldiers serving in the U.S. military, passing legislation repealing the controversial "don't ask, don't tell" policy.

The bill -- a so-called "standalone" measure not tied to any other legislative items -- passed 250 to 175 in a virtual party-line vote. It now advances to the Senate.

The House previously passed a repeal of the ban as part of a larger defense spending authorization bill, but the measure stalled last week in the Senate.
"Now is the time for us to act," said House Speaker Nancy Pelosi, D-California. "We should honor the service of all who want to contribute" to America's security. "Repealing 'don't ask, don't tell' makes for good public policy."

"Discrimination is wrong," declared Rep. John Lewis, D-Georgia. "On the battlefield it does not matter who you love. Only the flag that you serve."

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