Whistle Pig
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There is no denying that USNA is incredibly selective and competitive, especially in the admissions process. Conversely, it has probably the highest 4 year graduation rate of any college, university, institute, or service academy in the country. While some chaife at the observation, I stand by it. Anyone and everyone appointed who desires to graduate from USNA, can and will do so pending 3 things:
I. They WANT to be there and graduate, i.e. motivation.
II. They remain healthy and medically fit.
III. They choose to behave, mostly meaning they will avoid alcohol and drugs.
Note: There were even 8 in this class who graduated but were unable to receive a commission.
Note #2: One frequent implication of these candidate/appointment/enrollment #s is that this class (or last's) are the most traditionally qualified and academically strongest. That would NOT be the case. Interestingly, as the applicant numbers have risen the past several admissions cycles (3 or 4 now, I believe), the "selectivity", at least academically, has declined. While only the admissions statisticians know for sure, this is undoubtedly due to the recent diversity push which has driven up candidate numbers while driving down traditional measures of candidacy strength.
The primary point here is not to make erroneous assumptions based upon several traditional stats. And that the recent admissions process is not comparable to those of 4,5, or more years past. The staffing, marketing, materials, and resources are completely different.
Now, for a brief, superficial summation of the recently graduated USNA Class of 2011 inducted on 27 June 2007 and experienced, literally, the longest Plebe year in USNA history due to leap year, induction date, and several other factors noted at the commencement/commissioning exercises:
1. 12,003 applicants
2. 3,827 applicants w/ an official nomination
3. 1,893 applicant/nominees qualified scholastically, medically, physically
4. 1,419 offers of appointment
5. 1,212 accepted offers
6. 1,202 actually inducted
6a. Not sure of the number sent to NAPS and Foundation schools.
7. 1,006 graduates
8. 78% were top fifth in their HS class, 94% top 2/5
9. 30% scored above 700 math and 23% verbal (31 or above on ACT
10. 31% scored below 600/26 verbal and 16% math
11. 21% were female
12. 24% minority
13. 7 grads were from foreign nations
14. 1 Plebe classmate died while at USNA. Her Mid cover was the first-ever female cover placed atop Herndon in spring, 2008. She was honored as an honorary member of the Class of 2011.
15. 1 Midshipman received a Rhodes scholarship; 9 Trident Scholars; 16 began grad study in their 1st class year;
16. The "Anchor" was in 4th Company and received $1,005 for being last in the Order of Merit.
17. Assignments were as follows:
A. 225 Navy Pilot
B. 58 Navy Flight Officers
C.179 Surface Warfare
D. 29 Surface Nukes
E. 15 Surface/EDO
F. 5 Surface/IPO
G. 3 SWO/Oceanographers
H. 3 SWO/Info Warfare
I. 3 SWO/Intel Warfare
J. 133 Subs (including 12 females ... a first for firsties!)
K. 30 SEALs
L. 14 Explosive Ordnance Disposal
M. 260 USMC
N. 9 Med Corps (Medical School)
O. 1 Dental School
P. 3 Supply Corps
Q. 2 Intelligence
R. 2 Information Warfare
S. 3 Oceanography
T. 6 Civil Engineering Corps
U. 1 U.S. Army
V. 1 U.S. Coast Guard
W. 1 U.S. Air Force
GO NAVY! BEAT ARMY! And fair winds and following seas to USNA Class of 2011!
P.S. Note #3 ... From these stats, one can readily see ... IF one becomes 3Qed, much of which may be "controlable" (if not easily, simply, or quickly/readily) ... and IF one obtains a nomination from any source, the odds improve rather astronomically!
I. They WANT to be there and graduate, i.e. motivation.
II. They remain healthy and medically fit.
III. They choose to behave, mostly meaning they will avoid alcohol and drugs.
Note: There were even 8 in this class who graduated but were unable to receive a commission.
Note #2: One frequent implication of these candidate/appointment/enrollment #s is that this class (or last's) are the most traditionally qualified and academically strongest. That would NOT be the case. Interestingly, as the applicant numbers have risen the past several admissions cycles (3 or 4 now, I believe), the "selectivity", at least academically, has declined. While only the admissions statisticians know for sure, this is undoubtedly due to the recent diversity push which has driven up candidate numbers while driving down traditional measures of candidacy strength.
The primary point here is not to make erroneous assumptions based upon several traditional stats. And that the recent admissions process is not comparable to those of 4,5, or more years past. The staffing, marketing, materials, and resources are completely different.
Now, for a brief, superficial summation of the recently graduated USNA Class of 2011 inducted on 27 June 2007 and experienced, literally, the longest Plebe year in USNA history due to leap year, induction date, and several other factors noted at the commencement/commissioning exercises:
1. 12,003 applicants
2. 3,827 applicants w/ an official nomination
3. 1,893 applicant/nominees qualified scholastically, medically, physically
4. 1,419 offers of appointment
5. 1,212 accepted offers
6. 1,202 actually inducted
6a. Not sure of the number sent to NAPS and Foundation schools.
7. 1,006 graduates
8. 78% were top fifth in their HS class, 94% top 2/5
9. 30% scored above 700 math and 23% verbal (31 or above on ACT
10. 31% scored below 600/26 verbal and 16% math
11. 21% were female
12. 24% minority
13. 7 grads were from foreign nations
14. 1 Plebe classmate died while at USNA. Her Mid cover was the first-ever female cover placed atop Herndon in spring, 2008. She was honored as an honorary member of the Class of 2011.
15. 1 Midshipman received a Rhodes scholarship; 9 Trident Scholars; 16 began grad study in their 1st class year;
16. The "Anchor" was in 4th Company and received $1,005 for being last in the Order of Merit.
17. Assignments were as follows:
A. 225 Navy Pilot
B. 58 Navy Flight Officers
C.179 Surface Warfare
D. 29 Surface Nukes
E. 15 Surface/EDO
F. 5 Surface/IPO
G. 3 SWO/Oceanographers
H. 3 SWO/Info Warfare
I. 3 SWO/Intel Warfare
J. 133 Subs (including 12 females ... a first for firsties!)
K. 30 SEALs
L. 14 Explosive Ordnance Disposal
M. 260 USMC
N. 9 Med Corps (Medical School)
O. 1 Dental School
P. 3 Supply Corps
Q. 2 Intelligence
R. 2 Information Warfare
S. 3 Oceanography
T. 6 Civil Engineering Corps
U. 1 U.S. Army
V. 1 U.S. Coast Guard
W. 1 U.S. Air Force
GO NAVY! BEAT ARMY! And fair winds and following seas to USNA Class of 2011!
P.S. Note #3 ... From these stats, one can readily see ... IF one becomes 3Qed, much of which may be "controlable" (if not easily, simply, or quickly/readily) ... and IF one obtains a nomination from any source, the odds improve rather astronomically!