Army nixes black beret, velcro in ACUs

And they are going to stop wearing ACUs in the Pentagon and will be wearing class Bs and As again( apparently we have ceased combat operations in the District of Columbia!:thumb:). Now just one last step: Army Greens were nothing to wax rhapsodic about, but the new uniform with white shirt makes "Paul Blart" look debonair and martial by comparison- stop the destruction of the Army Blues and halt the implementation of that monstrosity!
 
tpg said:
That head gear issue is a distraction only to me simply because it always appeared to me that the Army had too many pieces of head gear.....Green, Tan, Black, Maroon...But none the less even I did not like how the army took away the black from the Rangers. I say good riddance.

What really caught my attention and I applaud LOUDLY is the other new change at the very bottom of the article:

"Separately, the Army announced that soldiers assigned to the Pentagon, who currently wear ACUs to work, will switch to the Army service uniform in October."

To which I give that change a mighty :thumb:

Seeing all those Soldiers in acu's looked entirely unprofessional to me. They wrinkle, come untucked, are baggy and unkempt.

And I have that opinion about the Marine Corps wearing utilities ALL the time too!
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I have long maintained that those who chose non-operational MOS's, such as finance clerks and PAC clerks (where no physical labor is routinely involved) should wear Class B's all day. Wanna work in an office? Great! Dress like it. We have uniforms for nurses, uniforms for cooks, and uniforms for people who get greasy and sweaty. Why not professional wear for those who work in an office setting?
 
It's a little ironic though- the only place that the ACU actually works as camouflage is inside concrete buildings:eek: So by eliminating it as a uniform in the Pentagon- the Army is basically making it totally useless everywhere!
 
bruno said:
It's a little ironic though- the only place that the ACU actually works as camouflage is inside concrete buildings:eek: So by eliminating it as a uniform in the Pentagon- the Army is basically making it totally useless everywhere!
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A little-known fact about UCP is that it's meant to be colored with the soil you're trying to blend into. Let it get dusty in Iraq for 3 days and it works great. Same with the red clay soil at Rucker or Benning. They just never explained that to Joe Soldier.
 
And the "BLUBERRIES" only work if you fall overboard and they can't find you in the ocean because you blend in. They look horrible off base! As does Miilitary personel leaving civilian aircraft in "fatigues". They should all be in some sort of "dress uniform" for travel. They just look sloppy. I appreciate their service but I always cringe when I see them disembark. Just an old fool who liked the old ways. There was a pride when we got off an aircraft and walked througfh the airport in Clas A or B even though it was mostly unappreciated.
 
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AF6872 said:
And the "BLUBERRIES" only work if you fall overboard and they can't find you in the ocean because you blend in. They look horrible off base! As does Miilitary personel leaving civilian aircraft in "fatigues". They should all be in some sort of "dress uniform" for travel. They just look sloppy. I appreciate their service but I always cringe when I see them disembark. Just an old fool who liked the old ways. There was a pride when we got off an aircraft and walked througfh the airport in Clas A or B even though it was mostly unappreciated.
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In many cases the servicemember you're seeing is on a civilian connector flight as part of their R&R leave from theater. I doubt we can seriously condone making those folks travel in ASU or Class A's. AT/FP safety measures have actually led most commands to dictate that soldiers will NOT travel in uniform when it's not required (i.e. deployment).
 
scoutpilot said:
In many cases the servicemember you're seeing is on a civilian connector flight as part of their R&R leave from theater..
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I used to think that and used to go out of my way at the airport when I was travelling to buy a meal or a drink for any guys in ACUs on the assumption that they were enroute home or back. Now believe otherwise after buying a number of meals for soldiers travelling on a tdy in CONUS, and basic trainee going home etc... all travelling in ACUs. The piece de la resistance was the flight that I took where a MG from TRADOC and his Aide were travelling in ACUs enroute to the Pentagon. Just looks silly- I guess they were prepared though in case our ERJ was forced down over some hostile part of Virginia :rolleyes:
 
When I was coming home off R&R from my deployment and someone would have said something about my uniform i would not of said nice things to them...
 
scoutpilot said:
In many cases the servicemember you're seeing is on a civilian connector flight as part of their R&R leave from theater. I doubt we can seriously condone making those folks travel in ASU or Class A's. AT/FP safety measures have actually led most commands to dictate that soldiers will NOT travel in uniform when it's not required (i.e. deployment).
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This is how I always understood it to be.

Granted, I got out several years ago, but they always emphasized that when going on a commercial flight, you should wear civilian clothes. I never deployed as a missileer, but my roommate did a short TDY as an augmentee to Bosnia. This was well after the shooting stopped over there, and he wore civies on the flight. I thought it was an OPSEC thing that if going on commercial flights, you should wear civilian clothes (unless, as noted above, it's a connector to a flight to a military charter).
 
allmylife said:
When I was coming home off R&R from my deployment and someone would have said something about my uniform i would not of said nice things to them...
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Hopefully that's not true. When you wear that uniform you represent 236 years of faithful service to the nation, and that means being respectful to those who show us respect as well as to those who do not.
 
random thoughts

- unlike BDUs, no one starches ACUs (good thing), so looks less sharp in garrison enviornment

- pre 911, for force protection reasons military members were not really authorized to wear uniform during travel. However, post 911, to make the public feel secure DoD encouraged military members to travel in uniform

- what are we, soldier first or professional first?

- difference uniforms ultimately cost soldiers extra money
 
BillSL said:
It's gray, though.
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If you are not familiar already if you stay on course you will run into Sergeants Major (SGM) in the future. It appears that some SGMs are obessed with enforcing uniform regulations.

There are three types of the flag patch - (1) red, white, blue, (2) subdue, like your picture, and (3) infrared patch. So depends on where you are you wear different type of the flag patch.
 
tpg said:
You are professional Soldiers, Sailors, Airman and Marines. Look like it!
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Agree, which means that the only "advice" is to wear what you're told to wear. It matters not what anyone else thinks.
 
MemberLG said:
If you are not familiar already if you stay on course you will run into Sergeants Major (SGM) in the future. It appears that some SGMs are obessed with enforcing uniform regulations.

There are three types of the flag patch - (1) red, white, blue, (2) subdue, like your picture, and (3) infrared patch. So depends on where you are you wear different type of the flag patch.
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Thank you, did not know that.
 
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