How do you know if you are on the NWL?

I was nominated by my representative and both my senators. I read on here that an appointment was offered to someone in my congressional district, but I'm not sure what the status is on the other nominees for my senators. I'm also not sure if they have sent principal nominations or not. The way I see it is that is that I have two more chances before being put on the NWL. This obviously being idealistic - assuming that no one on either of my senators' lists have received nominations.

Anyway, my question is how long does it usually take to be notified of placement on the NWL?

I live in NY, which (from what I've heard) is a fairly competitive state if that makes any difference. I'm not sure it does, though, because, from what I can tell, getting all three congressional nominations isn't very significant.

Thank you!

Matthewmillr94 said:

I was nominated by my representative and both my senators. I read on here that an appointment was offered to someone in my congressional district, but I'm not sure what the status is on the other nominees for my senators. I'm also not sure if they have sent principle nominations or not. The way I see it is that is that I have two more chances before being put on the NWL. This obviously being idealistic - assuming that no one on either of my senators' lists have received nominations.

Anyway, my question is how long does it usually take to be notified of placement on the NWL?

I live in NY, which (from what I've heard) is a fairly competitive state if that makes any difference. I'm not sure it does, though, because, from what I can tell, getting all three congressional nominations isn't very significant.

Thank you!

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I do not believe that USAFA informs you of being on the NWL. They go through all their slots and fill them. Admissions then informs you of being qualified/no vacancy (QNV) or they offer an Appointment. Some vacancies occur later and are filled by QNV receipients, but those are rare. When announcements are sent, you are pretty much either in or out.

Good luck.

Oh, and as Fritz says, 3 noms is huge. You should be proud of yourself!

What you said just is not true. Getting 3 noms is quite significant. It doesn't guarantee you anything, but it really is a terrific accomplishment and testiment to your credentials.

My son was triple nom'd last year and didn't get in and he is triple nom'd this year and he hasn't heard anything as of yet, so again, it is a guarantee of nothing, but as a parent who understands this wierd process enough, it is a very significant accomplishment and you should very proud of it.

Thanks for the information, I'm not sure where I got the idea that USAFA notifies candidates of placement on the NWL haha

Ah, that's a bit reassuring about the 3 noms stuff. It'll help a bit with the next long month or so

fritz said:

What you said just is not true. Getting 3 noms is quite significant. It doesn't guarantee you anything, but it really is a terrific accomplishment and testiment to your credentials.

My son was triple nom'd last year and didn't get in and he is triple nom'd this year and he hasn't heard anything as of yet, so again, it is a guarantee of nothing, but as a parent who understands this wierd process enough, it is a very significant accomplishment and you should very proud of it.

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Definitely true. Especially in a highly competitive state. Being one of the top ten students in your state applying for a world class education is nothing to scoff at.

Do MOCs typically notify candidates if their slot was used for appointment?

Getting 3 noms is a huge accomplishment and you should feel proud, but its also impt because it gives you 3 slates to be considered on. You only need one nom to get in, but like Matthewmillr94 noticed, if you have 3 but hear that 1 spot has been filled, you still have 2 others that could give you that golden ticket (nom). Its not over til its over!

Shurstell, at least in my son's case last year, MOC's only contact the person getting their slot. We knew the person who received the slot from our congressman (and he got an LOA so he was wrapped up early) but never received anything saying that my son was out of the running. Then my son got a phone call from our senator saying my son got his slot, but no followup letter from him, so I'm doubting that he sent letters to the others on the slate.

Good luck to all of you still waiting! It can be very hard (my son's phone call from the senator came March 13--seemed like forever!) but its worth it in the end!

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Definitely true. Especially in a highly competitive state. Being one of the top ten students in your state applying for a world class education is nothing to scoff at.

Do MOCs typically notify candidates if their slot was used for appointment?

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My rep didn't call to tell me that his slot was filled. However, I'm not sure if this is typical of MOCs.

Matthewmillr94 said:

My rep didn't call to tell me that his slot was filled. However, I'm not sure if this is typical of MOCs.

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I applied last year, received a QNV letter, and my congressman did not notify me that the spot was taken. I'm pretty sure your congressman/senator will not notify you if the slot is taken, unless of course you are the one filling the slot (appointment)

So it might be a good idea for a candidate to call their MOC's offices to check?

I would not want to be a bother though.

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So it might be a good idea for a candidate to call their MOC's offices to check?

I would not want to be a bother though.

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It's under my impression that if your MOC doesn't send out principle noms or ranked lists, then it wouldn't do any good since it's the academy that ends up ranking you.
So it depends on the individual MOC.

Then again, I'm somewhat skeptical of a lot of the information I hear from the MOCs. I called one of my senators in mid January to check the status on my nomination since I hadn't heard anything and they told me I did not receive a nomination. Alas 3 days later I got a postcard in the mail from the Air Force contradicting that, saying I was nominated my that senator.

Let's address one issue.

Nobody knows this appointee. If the appointee was an LOA, you cannot assume that the MOC was charged. All LOA's need are noms. He may have only received the MOC, and thus when they placed their name on the list they placed this MOC.

They may also have a Presidential, ROTC and an MOC, but for identifying purposes they placed MOC.

Do not assume unless that appointee stated I got the call from the MOC that the MOC was charged.

MOC's are just one part of the appointment process.

I have to say, in the 4 yrs here, NY has always been known as the state where the MOC's talk to spread the wealth. 3 noms are great.

I also would agree with fritz, 3 noms does not equal pack your bags, AFA here I come. I think that many candidates unfortunately fall into this fallacy when they have multiple noms. They believe that because they have 3 they are more competitive. However, at the end of the day it is the WCS. You could be number 5 on the congressional and number 7 on Senate A, 10 on Senate B when it comes to the WCS.