AFROTC/NROTC scholarship chances

Yes, I know that these kind of posts get pretty annoying.....but any information would be greatly appreciated, as I have nearly no knowledge about the competitiveness of ROTC scholarships. I'm a Junior, also looking into applying at USNA.

Academic:

- 29 Composite ACT (English 28; Math 29; Reading 30; Science 29)
- 4.0 GPA
- Homeschooled

Athletic:

- Two 5k’s
- One 10k
- One 11 mile bike race (3rd place)
- 4 seasons of JV lacrosse (started last season)
- Active runner and road biker.
- Active hiker and backpacker.


Other accomplishments:

- Active Member of Boy Scout Troop 371 Since September 2007
- Senior Patrol Leader (former Troop Guide and Patrol Leader)
- Life Scout (Eagle Project in progress; will have Eagle by ~feb. 2013)
- Most senior scout of the biggest Troop in our District

- Graduate of East Alabama Children’s Choir (2007-2010)
- Active member of East Alabama Youth Choral Since 2010

- Active member of Grace Heritage Church Since spring 2012 (attending since 2004)

- Former owner of Handcrafted by Henry (woodworking company, 2011-2012)
- Current income generated through a small ebay business.

- Active Member of Catalyst Speech & Debate Club (1st year)

- Volunteer Service: 4 weeks of total work at White Sulphur Springs Retreat Center (OCF); assisted a local carpenter (summer 2010) for experience and knowledge.


I heard in another post that recruiters target specific types of guys (regarding geography, race, family, etc.) So, if it matters at all:

- My parents are both white.
- I have seven siblings (I'm number 4)
- My Dad has an average middle-class income (professor at AU)
- I live in Auburn, AL (District 3; Mike Rodgers)
- My Dad is a USNA graduate ('85) and has a PHD
- My biological Grandfather served as an officer in the Navy for 22 years (helicopter squadron leader at one point).

I realize I might have just provided a bunch of irrelevant information, but I don't really know want the application will look like.

I heard somewhere that Air Force scholarships are easier to get. Is that true?

Also, will I be more likely to fly in the Navy or the Air Force?


Great thanks,

Henry

rebelforhim said:

Yes, I know that these kind of posts get pretty annoying.....but any information would be greatly appreciated, as I have nearly no knowledge about the competitiveness of ROTC scholarships. I'm a Junior, also looking into applying at USNA.

Academic:

- 29 Composite ACT (English 28; Math 29; Reading 30; Science 29)
- 4.0 GPA
- Homeschooled

Athletic:

- Two 5k’s
- One 10k
- One 11 mile bike race (3rd place)
- 4 seasons of JV lacrosse (started last season)
- Active runner and road biker.
- Active hiker and backpacker.


Other accomplishments:

- Active Member of Boy Scout Troop 371 Since September 2007
- Senior Patrol Leader (former Troop Guide and Patrol Leader)
- Life Scout (Eagle Project in progress; will have Eagle by ~feb. 2013)
- Most senior scout of the biggest Troop in our District

- Graduate of East Alabama Children’s Choir (2007-2010)
- Active member of East Alabama Youth Choral Since 2010

- Active member of Grace Heritage Church Since spring 2012 (attending since 2004)

- Former owner of Handcrafted by Henry (woodworking company, 2011-2012)
- Current income generated through a small ebay business.

- Active Member of Catalyst Speech & Debate Club (1st year)

- Volunteer Service: 4 weeks of total work at White Sulphur Springs Retreat Center (OCF); assisted a local carpenter (summer 2010) for experience and knowledge.


I heard in another post that recruiters target specific types of guys (regarding geography, race, family, etc.) So, if it matters at all:

- My parents are both white.
- I have seven siblings (I'm number 4)
- My Dad has an average middle-class income (professor at AU)
- I live in Auburn, AL (District 3; Mike Rodgers)
- My Dad is a USNA graduate ('85) and has a PHD
- My biological Grandfather served as an officer in the Navy for 22 years (helicopter squadron leader at one point).

I realize I might have just provided a bunch of irrelevant information, but I don't really know want the application will look like.

I heard somewhere that Air Force scholarships are easier to get. Is that true?

Also, will I be more likely to fly in the Navy or the Air Force?


Great thanks,

Henry

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GPA looks good but a lot depends on the class load. Any AP courses? They're looking for you to take an aggressive course load given what's available at your school (Oops! Just noticed you are home schooled so I don't know how this applies). ACT is OK but could be better. Take it again a couple more times to try to improve it. People usually do improve on subsequent tests.

Athletics is fair. Would be better with Varsity sports and even better as team captain (again, not sure how this applies to home schooled).

Leadership is weak. Don't know how much Sr Patrol Leader will count but it seems to be all you have. Again, captain of lacrosse would help. Moving that Eagle scout up to Nov. - Dec would help as well. I suppose your business experience might help in this area depending on the details.

For NROTC a lot will depend on your selection of major. 85% of Navy Option scholarships will go to Tier I and II (tech) majors. Marine Option doesn't care what your major is but there are far fewer scholarships to award.

They're looking for Leaders/Scholars/Athletes for both ROTC and academies. If you set your goals according to the Academy profiles then you'll be taking care of ROTC and other college applications as well, so keep shooting for it. Always work on backup plans in case the academies and scholarships don't come through.

Hope this helps! Good luck.

I'm not an expert, but I'll give you my $.02. I only know about AFROTC, but I've heard that Navy is (if anything) a little more competitive. Bear in mind, both are QUITE competitive.

I'll start by saying I'm a homeschooler as well. If you're wondering whether there's a disadvantage... not necessarily. I got a scholarship. However, expect to explain exactly how you do school many, many times, since there are 3,001 flavors of homeschooling. They aren't hostile to homeschooling; they just know that we don't fit in the cookie cutter, and that many homeschoolers--in all honesty--would be a poor match with ROTC. In other words--you need to be a normal, well-socialized, intelligent person who can clearly explain your schooling method. Easy, no?

Okay, now for actual info.

Academically--work on that ACT score! Check out the AFROTC website, and you'll see that the average ACT is 32 for a Type 1 (full tuition), 30 for a Type 2 (tuition capped at 18k), and 29 for a Type 7 (in-state tuition, or a 3 year Type 2). So, while there are always exceptions, getting your ACT up by as much as possible would be good. You should also consider taking the SAT. I've taken both, and while I did comparably on them, some people find they strongly favor one or the other.
Your GPA is great, but since you're homeschooled they're honestly probably NOT going to pay any attention to it at all. Sorry.

Athletically--not having a varsity letter may hurt you, as may the lack of a captaincy. It's all points on the application. Be prepared to absolutely rock the physical test. Again, you're homeschooled; it's OK to be different. But you need to be able to demonstrate that your kind of different would still excel in the ROTC mold.

Extracurriculars--leadership, leadership, leadership. Your Scouts experiences may have some; I'm not familiar with the Boy Scouts. You need to be able to show that you have some ability to lead people, especially people who are not like you.

Random notes:
-The demographics probably don't make the slightest bit of difference. You might get a very, very slight edge if you were a minority, but they're not about to let anyone in who they don't think is going to succeed.
-Look into taking AP, CLEP, and SAT subject tests. It may be too late for APs--I don't remember when I had to get paperwork in last year, and I'm not taking any this year. But if you can get high scores on subject tests, that will help validate your GPA.
-Try to find some college courses! I've taken a few online (Cedarville University--but plenty of other colleges have online dual-enrollment), and also through my community college. Many have some sort of early-bird program; I didn't have to pay any tuition for my community college course. Again, if you do well, it'll validate the rigor of your school, and you may be able to lighten your load in college.
-Homeschooling can absolutely be a strength! Homeschoolers are often assumed to be academic heavyweights, but as leaders (and, honestly, as functional members of society) we are stereotypically weak. So... anywhere you've excelled outside of the home and away from people like you is a great thing to point out! One of the unique strengths of homeschooling is that those of us who CAN work with people are frequently very good at drawing people from different schools and backgrounds together, since we don't see those distinctions as clearly. Point out time management skills.
-In interviews, and anywhere else, I'd emphasize the similarities between your method of homeschooling and traditional school. They may or may not actually be relevant, but it helps people to understand you when they can think--"oh, they're just like anyone else except for X". Hopefully X is something like, "they're smarter, better leaders, more mature, and are more self-disciplined." If you don't already, consider adhering to a "normal" school schedule, at least for a semester or two--you know, get up early, do school for much of the day, and then do your thing. I've found that people are more likely to accept me when they know that I get up at 5:42 and wear clothing to school.-
-Both care about your major--technical is a plus. For AF at least I know it's virtually unheard of to get a Type 1 for a non-tech major.

Like I said, I don't know more than is already on the Internet about ROTC in general, but I think it's a safe bet that I know a lot more about applying as a homeschooler than the average (read: public-schooled) person. So, if you have anything else you want to know, feel free to PM me.

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Great post Invisibility. Ought to be part of a stickie for home schoolers.

I tried to PM you, Invisibility, but it wouldn't let me for some reason:

Thanks a ton for your reply.....it was very helpful. I should've included that I am almost certainly going to major in aerospace engineering, regardless if I get the scholarship. Also, my Boy Scout experience has been very good, leadership-wise; I lead every weekly meeting of 20-30 boys, and am in charge at every monthly campout. Questions:

- What would you suggest that I do in order to increase my leadership "score" (besides lax captain, which I'll probably get this spring)?

- In person, I can easily convince someone that I am "normal" (because I am), how did you do that on paper?

- What kind of college/AP courses should I take?

Our family is very normal, and our schooling is very rigorous (my sister graduated from GaTech with a 3.9 GPA in mech-e). My dad has a PHD, and went to the Naval Academy. I've never thought about homeschooling as a hinderance, but I realize I need to put extra effort into putting my character onto paper.

Thanks again,

Henry

rebelforhim said:

I tried to PM you, Invisibility, but it wouldn't let me for some reason:

Thanks a ton for your reply.....it was very helpful. I should've included that I am almost certainly going to major in aerospace engineering, regardless if I get the scholarship. Also, my Boy Scout experience has been very good, leadership-wise; I lead every weekly meeting of 20-30 boys, and am in charge at every monthly campout. Questions:

- What would you suggest that I do in order to increase my leadership "score" (besides lax captain, which I'll probably get this spring)?

- In person, I can easily convince someone that I am "normal" (because I am), how did you do that on paper?

- What kind of college/AP courses should I take?

Our family is very normal, and our schooling is very rigorous (my sister graduated from GaTech with a 3.9 GPA in mech-e). My dad has a PHD, and went to the Naval Academy. I've never thought about homeschooling as a hinderance, but I realize I need to put extra effort into putting my character onto paper.

Thanks again,

Henry

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As far as AP courses, take a look at the academy freshman year curriculum and pick some from there. I'd go with one of these myself:
Calculus I
Chemistry I (with lab)
US Government and Constitutional Development (Perhaps just US Gov at another college)
If you show you can do well in these at a college level outside the home I think it will go a long way for you. Also, I'd mention your sister's GPA at GA Tech somewhere in your application as evidence of your home schooled sibling handling a difficult academic load (implying you can too).

I agree with what the others have stated.

One thing I would add is how AFROTC and NROTC operate differently when awarding scholarships.

AFROTC is purely national selection. They do not take into consideration what colleges you are applying to for admittance. It is basically take your score and that will determine if or what kind of scholarship you will get. They do not ever announce the points for each, I am just saying that for them they can say i.e. 175-200 pts Type 7, 201-220 pts Type 2, 221-225 pts Type 1. Your PAR (cgpa, course rigor, SAT is 60% of the WCS) AFROTC does not superscore SAT/ACT it is best sitting.

NROTC is tied to the colleges on your list too. Hence your stats maybe fine for an IS HSSP, but not for Harvard. NROTC does superscore.

Caveat: AFROTC is sim. to the fact that 80-85% of all scholarships go to STEM candidates.

I would agree get that Eagle Scout as soon as possible. Unfortunately for you AFROTC will not consider it at all even if you move it up to Nov. because for their process they only include everything through your JR yr. I do not know about NROTC

This is also true for academic transcripts. None of the courses you take as a SR will be part of the equation. The only aspect you can update will be your SAT/ACT, but again they will only update it if the sitting is better than on record currently. If you take all of the SAT/ACTs offered this spring I doubt you will see an increase between June and Sept.

I would still take APs because many colleges will either use it to validate freshman courses or allow it to be considered college credits.

The thing with college admittance regarding transcripts is it is not just about the gpa, it is about the rigor of the course load you are taking in HS. The trickier issue for homeschoolers is they can't tell how you rack and stack out regarding grades because you are home schooled, thus that AP plays an important role from another perspective. AP tests are like SAT/ACTs they are the same in every hs across the nation. The teacher at that one school does not create the test, college board creates it.

Did you take the PSAT? I hope you did, because it will not only allow you to compete for the National Merit, but you can place that you are at this point an NMSF on your resume. Colleges also love NMSF applicants for their own stats regarding students attending. They typically will get merit from college.

Your Dad and Granddad will not play into the equation because there are no legacy "points" awarded, at least not for AFROTC.

For SAs the only legacy you would get would be a Presidential nom if your Dad served long enough to earn that option. If he only did 5 and dive, you will not be eligible. Again, that is for SAs, not ROTC.

Finally, I understand you want to fly and that is typical for many candidates, but please remember it is 4 yrs of ROTC and to get that opportunity it will be based on your OML in college. Nobody knows what the UPT pipeline will look like in 2018. It is important to pick the branch not because one gave you a scholarship and the other didn't, but because in 2018 you are willing to do whatever career they assign you for at least 4 yrs. If being on a boat 6 months out of the yr doesn't appeal to you, than re-think NROTC. If being assigned to Minot, ND as a Maintenance officer fills your heart with dread, re-think AFROTC.

Also check into what is the time commitment for rated officers in the Navy. For AF it is 10 yrs upon winging for pilots, 6 for CSOs. Notice it winging, which is 1 yr. Currently many AFROTC grads wait @ 1 yr to start UPT (typically on casual for 6-9 months, + 3-6 mos. not active). You will be looking at not 10 yrs., but closer to 12 for a pilot, and 8 for a CSO.

I am not saying go one way because it is less time owed, just be informed of how long you really will stay if you go through that route.

I would also suggest where many NROTC candidates find a hitch in their future is their vision. I don't have enough fingers or toes to count on with kids stating just found out I have a color deficiency. AF that is not an issue, Navy is. If you have the chance get a vision exam and make sure that you are fine there.

Good luck

^^ What she said.
- Anything that has a title associated with it will help. A captaincy is VERY good. So, it sounds like, is your scout experience. You'll have to write some information about them, and they'll also come up in your interview. I've heard that Army at least likes you to have a mix of "selected" and "elected" positions. There's probably a limited amount you can do to control which leadership positions you'll get in the next year and a half, but keep an eye out for what you DO have, and write it down! It's amazing what you forget in a year.

-They don't require any essays, so don't worry about it too much on paper. (I don't know about the NROTC application.) In person... I'm glad you're normal.
-"Techie" courses might be helpful, but I don't think it will make a huge difference. If you know where you're going for school, try to figure out what you can test out of or which credits you can transfer in your major. Between dual enrollment and testing, I can get out of about 12 credits. Mostly, they just want to see that you'll succeed with a heavy course load and with deadlines.
-I agree that mentioning that your sister's GPA as evidence of your homeschool's strength is probably a good idea. Don't make a big deal of it, but if it makes sense to mention it, then do. Can't hurt.

I would highlite your entepreneureal experience of starting your own companies in the interviews and applications - that shows some inner drive, creativity, discipline, etc.

Invisibility since the OP is a jr., they don't have 18 months to get those leadership aspects. They only have 6 months because AFROTC only includes through their jr. yr., sr. yr is moot when it comes to ECs.

The OP also wants to apply for USNA slot. ECs will count as a SR, but be cognizant that there is a close off date for candidates, and Feb is the month...Eagle Scout counts a lot, you don't want that award not to make it in time.

Essays will be his life over the summer between, USNA app, and 3 MOC noms, + college essays as plan B, he will be writing, writing, writing.

I am not a fan of including the sister, EXCEPT if he is applying to GA. That way he is tying in himself to the school, and using his sister as a legacy aspect. No offense to the OP, but I would also not include that Dad has a Ph.D. Dad is Dad, sis is sis. Your sister for all we know had a 33 ACT. They are looking at you. View it from an interviewer.
Interviewer: Your ACT is strong
OP: My sister was also homeschool, and she has a 3.9 at GA, as you can see the rigor is not easy.

As an interviewer, wouldn't it be possible your next thought would be GREAT, but we are here to talk about you, not her. I just don't know how you work her into the scenario, unless the interview is at GA.

You have some great strengths, but I think you are trying to place quantity over quality.

They are not going to take Graduate of East Alabama Children's Choir because all they take is from freshman yr on. 2007-2010 if I am doing my math correctly equals 11-14 yrs. old.
~~~ You are currently an Active Member...what do you do in it besides singing? Are you a teacher for 30 members? How many hrs a week? You said Graduate, do you have to compete to get in? Does this organization compete? If so have they ever placed?
~~~ See the difference?
~ One is telling me something from when they were 11, and nothing from when they were in HS.

Same with LAX. Do you compete as a traveling team or is this intramural only where you pay to play? If it is the 1st highlight that it is a competitive traveling team.

Same with Speech and Debate club. Does this club have 10 members and meet weekly to debate the same 10 members or do they belong to a larger group where they debate other clubs? If so, than there should be some kind of ranking system where he can say top something or another. This shows them again that it is competitive where they can get a bigger view of him from an academic perspective.

I agree with USMC highlight the small businesses. How many hours, the unique skills, etc.

You will have limited space and time to sell yourself. Active runner, biker, hiker and back packer does not tell me anything more than what your PFA scores will show. It illustrates you enjoy outdoor hobbies, and that is not what they are really looking for regarding athletics. It is fodder.

The 5, and 10Ks, especially if they are for philanthropic purposes...Susan G. Kohlman also illustrates humanitarian volunteering. Which brings us to his last 4 weeks at White Sulphur.
~ Change the wording...it reads volunteered for your personal gain in experience and knowledge, not to assist the less fortunate
~~~ What is the goal of this organization? What did you actually do?
~~~~~IE. Organization worked on Habitat for Humanity homes, was 2nd in charge for carpentry, responsibilities included: delegating jobs, instructions of XYZ, inspecting quality for approval.

A lot has to do with selling yourself. I am sure once the OP gets that idea he will look stronger for his ECs. There will be kids that are going to make sitting on the bench and never playing one FB game as if they were an integral part of why the team made it to county play offs, even though there were only 3 teams in the county!

This is not the time to NOT BOAST on all of your accomplishments.

Sent you a PM

wow.....thanks again. I probably needed to be humbled a bit. (Side Note: I feeling stupid right now, but what do "OP" and "EC" stand for?)

Thanks for the examples. I'm not very good at "selling myself." You made my little bio look 10x what I did. I definitely "undersold" all of my "quantity"; almost everything you suggested about my experiences was true (debate team competes, lax team competes for state title, choir admission is competitive, etc.) At the same time, I feel like I'm still lacking some critical aspects.

Basically, do you think I need more "quantity" so that I can sell every bit of "quality" that I have? I realize I did a poor job at displaying the quality.

Thanks,


Henry

Pima said:

Invisibility since the OP is a jr., they don't have 18 months to get those leadership aspects. They only have 6 months because AFROTC only includes through their jr. yr., sr. yr is moot when it comes to ECs.

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Right--I'm getting confused between SA and ROTC. That shrinks the time frame.

Also, since you're looking at USNA... I didn't apply there, but I did apply for USAFA. If the applications are similar, you may have to send in a "core document" about your homeschool. My counselor at USAFA said it was essentially whatever information we thought they needed about our homeschool. GREAT opportunity to detail course standards, grading, test performance, accreditation, etc. Mine ended up being 6 pages. It's a good opportunity to represent your school on paper.

EC = extracurricular activity.
OP = original poster.

More quantity wouldn't be a BAD thing, but realistically you're not going to get a leadership position in a brand new EC in 6 months. I'd focus on maximizing what you do have. I'm not particularly good at selling myself either. I don't like telling people about my accomplishments, except when I have to establish that I do know what I'm talking about. You probably think you're a good fit with ROTC. Think about your reasons why (I'm a hard worker, a leader, I want to serve my country, I have the academic ability to make it, I'm a team player, etc) and then think about how you know those things about yourself (hard worker from school, running; leader from scouts; etc.).

Lawman32RPD, again, it wouldn't let me pm you because I don't have 15 posts yet. Here's my response to your pm:

Thanks...I've heard of the Corps of Cadets, but I don't really know what it is. Is it different from ROTC, or is it a combination of the two? Also, don't think I can go to the Eagle Scout visit weekend. Will my chances of admission still be better because of the Eagle Scout?

Thanks,


Henry

The Op hasn't said he was applying AFA, if he does he needs to know that they open their applications in March. They can become a candidate as early as end of June.

The beauty for him is he has stated he intends to apply to USNA. USNA will assign him a BGO. Use them as the best resource, even from an AFROTC perspective.
95% of SA applicants will apply for ROTC scholarships. The BGO will know the competition for your district. Although they have no AFA/AFROTC experience, remember you won't be the only one applying to multiple options. They can still see your strengths from the USNA/NROTC and translate that to AFROTC.

If you apply AFA, you will get an ALO, they will be in all likelihood your interview source, not a college det.

rebelforhim.

Corps of Cadets only applies to SMCs. There are only 7 in the nation. VT, VMI, Citadel, Norwich, and TAMU come to mind. Sorry I don't know the other 2.

Basically as a ROTC cadet you will be in ROTC AND Corps. You can be a Corps cadet, but not in ROTC. It is the bridge of an SA and traditional college because you get that SA life while also the college life.

Regarding Eagle Scout.
Look at admissions profile for each SA. Eagle Scout is a big deal. If you can push that up, do so.

Eagle Scout shows leadership and dedication. I know an AFA grad that only had a Pres. nom., no MOCs, but was an Eagle Scout, YMCA lifeguard, travel team soccer and got an appointment.

Unfortunately if I am correct you missed the Summer Seminar application cut off. That too would have been something as a home schooler you would have helped your chances. Is it to late for Boys State?

You need your ECs to shine. Eagle Scout is one of them until you re-work the others regarding strengths.

Please realize that colleges are going to put you through the same thing for admittance. SELL YOURSELF.

There is a related forum which can help to answer your question. In brief, the Senior Military Colleges (“SMCs”) all have ROTC units. The six SMCs are, Norwich, the Virginia Military Institute, Virginia Tech, The Citadel, North Georgia (I believe, but I am not sure they just do Army ROTC), and TAMU. There are similarities and differences between each of those institutions. No one school is right for everyone. Like all schools, they all have websites – look and explore, visit if you can. Norwich Dad posted a link to a video, see below. Unlike their federal service academy brethren the SMC cadets do not necessarily have a military service obligation (unless, of course, they are contracted with ROTC).

In the words of “Bruno”, one of the moderators, “For the ARMY only- it is true that Cadets at the Senior Military Colleges are guaranteed active duty IF RECOMMENDED by the PMS (which is a big caveat. Frankly you can't spend multiple years peeing on the PMS and then expect that he will suddenly feel obligated to recommend you go on active duty). It is only true for the Army (this a function of a law written into the USC from the early 90's ) and doesn't pertain to the other services. What you are not guaranteed is the branch of assignment within the Army which is strictly a function of the national ROTC order of merit list (OML) . So if you graduate down in the hopper from VMI or the Citadel or A&M etcl... you may be going AD, but you may doing so in the Chemical Corps when you wanted to be an Infantryman.”

“So- the guarantee of active duty is real and I suppose is something of a benefit, but IMHO, the main reason that you go to an SMC has much more to do with what you get out of the environment itself. I can't speak to the SMCs that are Corps of Cadet's within much larger civilian schools, but I can say that in a place like VMI or the Citadel- what you get is a small , undergraduate focused education in which you are not just one of a large crowd but small classes taught by the full professors on the faculty as opposed to GTAs etc..., a 4 year course in functioning under physical, emotional and academic presssure, a real appreciation for time management, a life long sense of honesty, integrity and honor and an abiding sense of team work and brotherhood amongst your classmates (and learning to deal with delayed gratification). All of those values are life long assets that far too few possess in "the real world" whether that real world is the military or a civilian world. On top of that - should you go into the military for a career- you will run into far more of your fellow classmates or alumns than you would coming form the typical ROTC program. “

“On the other hand- the life style at these schools doesn't work for everyone and if you aren't actively sold on it- you will have an unhappy 4 years. Additionally- every college- SMC or otherwise- has strengths and some academic programs have a greater reputation in a field than others and you should know and consider that when choosing a school and a major. The school needs to be the right fit for you.”

“Lots to consider- good luck”

If you search this and the related forum you’ll find a genuine difference of opinion regarding the efficacy of the SMCs. I’m not trying to talk you into or out of considering that option. As noted in my PM, one “selling” point of TAMU is that cadets, regardless of whether or not they have an ROTC scholarship are eligible for in-state tuition at TAMU. Money matters. College Station is an easy day drive from Alabama. Having made the drive on a number of occasions I know that VMI, the Citadel, and Virginia Tech are similarly not that far away car from Alabama.

However, to join the Corps you have to first be admitted to TAMU. You can talk to the folks at the Corps about this in depth. http://corps.tamu.edu/contact-us .

General information about TAMU appears below. From my review, you would appear competitive for admission, but that’s an outsiders opinion that doesn’t count for much. There is an Eagle program in the fall as well, and many other ways to visit TAMU and Corps there.

http://admissions.tamu.edu/freshmen/default.aspx


Total Number of Freshman Applications: 29,713
Total Number of Freshmen Admitted: 16,488
Total Number of Freshmen Enrolled: 8,255

Top 10% Admits: 54%
Academic Admits: 15%
Review Admits: 31%

Academic Profile for First-Time Freshmen
Average SAT Score: 1220
Average ACT Score: 27

Class Rank
Top 10% of High School Graduating Class: 54%
Top 25% of High School Graduating Class: 90%
Top 50% of High School Graduating Class: 99%

http://admissions.tamu.edu/counselors/profile.aspx


For more of the marketing type information see Aggiebound:

http://aggiebound.tamu.edu/


Good luck and Best Wishes.

As I said, Norwich Dad posted a link to a video that might help, though as he pointed out, some of the information is a bit dated:

Great Video by the Army a few years ago. Definately dated, there is a quote "there are more scholarships than qualifed candidates." Really nice video though.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8xc4-0XKt8g

And the blurring of the lines begin.

AFROTC/NROTC cadet/mids will go AD no matter where they graduate from. There is no Guard or Reserve option like AROTC.

You can go to University of Central Timbucktoo and as long as you become a POC, you WILL serve AD AF or Navy just like any SMC POC.

I only point that out because the OP wants AF/NROTC. He stated he wanted to fly, if he wants Helo's he should not look at AF and look at Army instead. In that case, I am with lawman an SMC might be the best path.

Just my 0.01754 cents.

Pima:

I did apply to the Summer Seminar. It actually opened this morning.

It is too late for Boys State, but fortunately, there is a similar organization for homeschoolers called teenpact, that does the same government type stuff.

Right now, TAMU and VTech are in my top five choices for college.

I think you guys misunderstood my Eagle thing, I meant to say that I will have Eagle by Feb.-March of this year. My project is scheduled in a couple weeks. I will definitely have it by the end of the semester.

Lawman:

Thanks. I think a Corps school would suite me well. Like I said above, TAMU and VTech are in my top five right now.


- Henry

You will get an edge for admissions as an OOS at VT because you will be in the Corps.

I am not sure how VT works for IS/OOS regarding tuition. Your ACT from AFROTC is not going to be in the Type 1/2 range, maybe 7. If VT does not accept you as IS as an OOS, than you would have to convert it to a Type 2 3 yr. IOTW freshman yr you are on your own dime.

I hope you have researched AFROTC scholarships.

Not only was Invisibility giving you the hard facts about scores, but he didn't add into that 80-85% go to Tech Majors.

Type 1 5% of 5% awarded go Non-tech
Type 2 is 15% awarded, and I believe only 15% of them go Non-tech
Tyoe 7 is 75% awarded and 25% go Non-tech.

It is not alot of cadets out of the applicant pool that get them approximately 20% of the pool. Nationally 2 or 3 get Type1 as non-tech.

Please research. I am assuming a child with 6 other siblings and 3 in front of you and 3 behind you cost is going to be a factor.

Talk to your Dad, as a USNA grad I am sure he recalls that not everyone who joined him for I Day and endured Plebe yr were not there for graduation.

Their parents had to figure out plan B after they left plan A.

SMCs do all sorts of ROTC programs. I know for a fact Va Tech, The Citadel, VMI, Norwich, and Texas A&M all have NROTC units. North Georgia may not have an NROTC unit. I no longer dare speak about AFROTC but I expect simple google searches will provide the answer.