AFROTC Dependency

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military4life

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Hi, I'm planning on transferring from a community college to a university with a detachment for AFROTC next year. I've heard from some people that if you have a dependent, you are not allowed to be in the program. My understanding on this is that, if you have a registered dependent, that would count against you being in the program. My question would be than, what if I'm not married and I have no legal obligations nor do I claim the child in any taxes or pay for any expenses. My name is not on the birth certificate and the mother of the child does not plan to file for child support nor force a court ordered paternity test upon me. How would this affect my situation? Would I be able to be in the program? What would make an individual registered as having a legal dependent? Does it matter if the father has no legal ties to the child? The child does not live with me and I'm still a dependent under my parents.
 
military4life said:
Hi, I'm planning on transferring from a community college to a university with a detachment for AFROTC next year. I've heard from some people that if you have a dependent, you are not allowed to be in the program. My understanding on this is that, if you have a registered dependent, that would count against you being in the program. My question would be than, what if I'm not married and I have no legal obligations nor do I claim the child in any taxes or pay for any expenses. My name is not on the birth certificate and the mother of the child does not plan to file for child support nor force a court ordered paternity test upon me. How would this affect my situation? Would I be able to be in the program? What would make an individual registered as having a legal dependent? Does it matter if the father has no legal ties to the child? The child does not live with me and I'm still a dependent under my parents.
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First, and I make no claim to being an AFROTC expert or even an expert on this topic, I see nothing in the requirements that mentions you cannot have a dependent or even a child. Second, I would argue you have no dependent since no one is depending on you for income and you have no legal connection to this child. I won't say you don't have anything to worry about but if there are hurdles I think you can overcome them. I think your biggest hurdle will be that you only have two years of college remaining. If you haven't contacted the unit and already worked out this aspect of your goal then I would be busy working that one.
 
AFROTCI36-2011 24 AUGUST 2012
331
Attachment 15
AIR FORCE DEPENDENCY POLICY STATEMENT OF UNDERSTANDING
I (Cadet’s Name) have been briefed on the Air Force policies
concerning family care responsibility and family care responsibility as an AFROTC retention standard. (A family member is any person over whom I have legal or physical custody or control, or who relies
primarily upon me for their care, maintenance, or support regardless of age). In particular, I understand the following:

a.(Non-contract Cadet) If I am/become unmarried (to include a common-law spouse) or marry a military member, and I have legal or physical custody of
any person incapable of self-care; or, married to a civilian spouse and wish to enlist in the pay grade of E-3 or lower and have legal or physical custody of two or more family members incapable of self-care, I do not meet Air Force
enlistment standards. In such a case, I will be released fromthe AFROTC program. NO waivers are authorized.

b. (Contract Cadet) If I am unmarried (to include a common-law spouse) or married to a military member (including another contract AFROTC cadet),
and become responsible for a family member or family members; or, married to a civilian spouse and enlisted in the pay grade
E-3 or lower and have legal or physical custody of two or more family members incapable of self-care (through birth, marriage, court determination of parental or guardianship responsibility, divorce, or other means), I can continue in AFROTC only if granted a waiver by HQ AFROTC/RRFP. I must create an adequate family care plan in accordance with Air Force
Instruction 36-2908. If I am unable or unwilling to create or maintain
such a family care plan, I will no longer meet AFROTC retention standards. In such a case, I would then be subject to disenrollment from AFROTC for failure to maintain military retention standards. If I am
disenrolled, I will also be subject to recoupment of my scholarship benefits.


That's what I got from some website.
 
military4life said:
AFROTCI36-2011 24 AUGUST 2012
331
Attachment 15
AIR FORCE DEPENDENCY POLICY STATEMENT OF UNDERSTANDING
I (Cadet’s Name) have been briefed on the Air Force policies
concerning family care responsibility and family care responsibility as an AFROTC retention standard. (A family member is any person over whom I have legal or physical custody or control, or who relies
primarily upon me for their care, maintenance, or support regardless of age). In particular, I understand the following:

a.(Non-contract Cadet) If I am/become unmarried (to include a common-law spouse) or marry a military member, and I have legal or physical custody of
any person incapable of self-care; or, married to a civilian spouse and wish to enlist in the pay grade of E-3 or lower and have legal or physical custody of two or more family members incapable of self-care, I do not meet Air Force
enlistment standards. In such a case, I will be released fromthe AFROTC program. NO waivers are authorized.

b. (Contract Cadet) If I am unmarried (to include a common-law spouse) or married to a military member (including another contract AFROTC cadet),
and become responsible for a family member or family members; or, married to a civilian spouse and enlisted in the pay grade
E-3 or lower and have legal or physical custody of two or more family members incapable of self-care (through birth, marriage, court determination of parental or guardianship responsibility, divorce, or other means), I can continue in AFROTC only if granted a waiver by HQ AFROTC/RRFP. I must create an adequate family care plan in accordance with Air Force
Instruction 36-2908. If I am unable or unwilling to create or maintain
such a family care plan, I will no longer meet AFROTC retention standards. In such a case, I would then be subject to disenrollment from AFROTC for failure to maintain military retention standards. If I am
disenrolled, I will also be subject to recoupment of my scholarship benefits.


That's what I got from some website.
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Right. But you don't have anyone legally or physically in your care, at least according to what you posted earlier. So you should be good in this respect.
 
(Contract Cadet) If I am unmarried (to include a common-law spouse) or married to a military member (including another contract AFROTC cadet),
and become responsible for a family member or family members; or, married to a civilian spouse and enlisted in the pay grade
E-3 or lower and have legal or physical custody of two or more family members incapable of self-care (through birth, marriage, court determination of parental or guardianship responsibility, divorce, or other means), I can continue in AFROTC only if granted a waiver by HQ AFROTC/RRFP. I must create an adequate family care plan in accordance with Air Force
Instruction 36-2908. If I am unable or unwilling to create or maintain
such a family care plan, I will no longer meet AFROTC retention standards. In such a case, I would then be subject to disenrollment from AFROTC for failure to maintain military retention standards. If I am
disenrolled, I will also be subject to recoupment of my scholarship benefits.p/quote]

You can have a dependent as an AFROTC cadet, because it all comes down to a waiver, and most often that is granted. You CANNOT have one as an AFA cadet.

There have been several posters on this site over the past few yrs that have found their self pregnant in college as an AFROTC cadet. All they did was fill out a family plan to prove that their child would be cared for.

I also believe a few yrs ago, there was a poster here that was an AFROTC cadet wife. He was enlisted, left after 4 yrs and went AFROTC.

They make exceptions to the rule for AFROTC cadets, they will never make the exception for AFA cadets. Thus, even if the mother does come back for child support in the future you can be in as long as you make a family plan and submit it, they would most likely allow you to stay.
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