Ehh possibly is the best answer. We had a brief where I cant remember who said it but either COL Mauldin or LTC Cross talked about a new cadet that outprocessed during Beast just because he didnt want to be here...so in other words leaving voluntarily. A part of the papers the officer signed included documents prohibiting him from joining again.
Apparently, the kid tried to go and use an ROTC scholarship he had because a ROTC CO called and asked Mauldin or Cross to reconsider since he's such a strong applicant, a great young man, etc. He told him no. That if a kid was willing to accept a spot to this institution for all it would have given him and then leave, basically wasting that spot that could have been filled by someone who would have actually appreciated it, he doesnt want him in his army.
Again, words from either COL Mauldin or LTC Cross...wish i could remember but doesnt change the gravity of his words.
That's ridicules.
ROTC has had many cadets over the years that leave WP. Everybody may not be right for WP, but WP is also not right for Everybody.
Ehh possibly is the best answer. We had a brief where I cant remember who said it but either COL Mauldin or LTC Cross talked about a new cadet that outprocessed during Beast just because he didnt want to be here...so in other words leaving voluntarily. A part of the papers the officer signed included documents prohibiting him from joining again.
Apparently, the kid tried to go and use an ROTC scholarship he had because a ROTC CO called and asked Mauldin or Cross to reconsider since he's such a strong applicant, a great young man, etc. He told him no. That if a kid was willing to accept a spot to this institution for all it would have given him and then leave, basically wasting that spot that could have been filled by someone who would have actually appreciated it, he doesnt want him in his army.
Again, words from either COL Mauldin or LTC Cross...wish i could remember but doesnt change the gravity of his words.
Ridicules, as it sounds like an urban legend.
Any decision we make have consequences.
Not sure the "A part of the papers the officer signed included documents prohibiting him from joining again" is legal? Unless it's a DD214 barring reentry, which can be appealed or waived. But not by some COLs at West Point.
Not sure why the ROTC CO called West Point, but it's the ROTC's CO's discretion to listen or not listen to COLs at West Point.
Lastly, a good friend of mine left West Point after the first semester, joined ROTC, and still serving in the Army.
jaydee, the kid quit only a few days into Beast. THAT is why LTC Cross wouldn't recommend him. It's different when you go through Beast and at least a semester of academics and are in good standing, compared to leaving before anything has really even begun.
Not an urban legend, as I was very much there an heard the words exit his mouth. This what he said. Ask a plebe.
ActaNonVerba- i said he quit during Beast. Also vividly remember him highlighting the wasting of a good spot.
Not an urban legend, as I was very much there an heard the words exit his mouth. This what he said. Ask a plebe.
ActaNonVerba- i said he quit during Beast. Also vividly remember him highlighting the wasting of a good spot.
Whatever it was that LTC Cross wrote on the papers, and I guess you'd have to talk to LTC Cross about it to actually know, prompted the ROTC CO to call and question whether he should be allowed in. LTC Cross convinced him not to. Fact is, his recommendation was as strong as papers denying reentry.
Moral is, whatever you do here, even if its not an honor code violation or violation of the military justice code, could prevent you from becoming an officer if you decide to leave. Think about that before you come here
. . . I think the problem with this situation is that the former New Cadet didn't even try to survive or tough it out, thus, nobody knows if he would have EVER been in good standing in the first place! How could you recommend someone who hasn't even done anything yet?
It takes more courage to "quit" West Point than stay.