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Aaron95

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I reapplied this year and just opened the TWE I got in the mail and I have a few questions about it. First off, do they use the same exact format for every letter they send out? The letter was the same exact one I got last year even though I took all of the courses they recommended. Also, what would make them send this out so early. I have heard back from them a definite no from USNA before USAFA even though I don't have a nomination to Air Force. Could there be any major reason that I was denied so early in the process?
 
Aaron95 said:
I reapplied this year and just opened the TWE I got in the mail and I have a few questions about it. First off, do they use the same exact format for every letter they send out? The letter was the same exact one I got last year even though I took all of the courses they recommended. Also, what would make them send this out so early. I have heard back from them a definite no from USNA before USAFA even though I don't have a nomination to Air Force. Could there be any major reason that I was denied so early in the process?
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First, without knowing anything about you its impossible to say. It's actually not so early in the process but is instead getting rather late. Things should be mostly (not entirely) wrapped up in the next 30 days or so. They know how many appointments they will have. If you didn't win your slate(s) and are way down the OML list such that it's clear you wouldn't get an appointment, then they are doing you a service by letting you know early so you can get on with any other plans.

Sorry about the TWE. Are you exploring NROTC or other alternatives to commissioning?
 
Ok Thank you and yes, the school I am at now doesn't have NRTOC so I am in AFROTC majoring in aerospace engineering. I just thought it was weird that the letter was the exact same as last year even though I have taken all of the listed recommended courses, but they probably just have one format. Oh well, a commission is a commission and I will hopefully still become an officer any way.
 
Aaron95 said:
Ok Thank you and yes, the school I am at now doesn't have NRTOC so I am in AFROTC majoring in aerospace engineering. I just thought it was weird that the letter was the exact same as last year even though I have taken all of the listed recommended courses, but they probably just have one format. Oh well, a commission is a commission and I will hopefully still become an officer any way.
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With that attitude, I think you'll make a great officer!
 
One question . . . did you have 100% of your packet complete?

If so, as stated above, it's hard to give you an answer w/o knowing much about you. The mere fact you take the plebe courses and reapply does not mean you'll be accepted. Here are some things to ask yourself -- please do NOT feel the need to reply publicly.

Did you have a very strong h.s. record that made you extremely competitive last year?

Did you do something productive during the summer?

Did you get As in college calc and chem and at least Bs in English and history?

Did you retake your SAT/ACT if your scores weren't super-competitive?

Were your teacher/prof recs strong?

Did you max out (or do extremely well on) your CFA?
 
I know that it was no guarantee, but yes my packet was 100% complete. In High School I had a 3.7 unweighted GPA and a 3.99 weighted which put me in the to 20% of my class. This past year I worked over the summer, as well as enrolled in AFROTC at my school while taking engineering courses and got a 3.0. I did not take the ACT/SAT over again though, I had a 27 math and a 27 English score and a 620 math and 590 Critical Reading Score on the SAT. Also, for the PFA I got a 68' basketball throw, 15 pull ups, 9.1 shuttle run, 70 sit ups and 50 push ups. And I'm pretty confident in my teacher recs.
 
To add to USNA1985....

What I have heard from Admissions about college re-applicants...if one did not do well in math/science courses in H.S.....you have to do REALLY well (i.e. A, possibly a B)...otherwise, one probably shot themselves in the foot.

For example, say one had a C in Chemistry in high school and re-took it in college and got a C or D....that does not bode well. Basically, you need to prove to the Admissions Board that you learned and improved. The same can be said about Calc and Physics. A candidate could have a 3.0 and all else being equal, if the math/science/engineering courses are the lower of the grades...then I would not expect good news. My two cents.
 
My DS received a letter from the USNA today that said he was denied a waiver. He had a retina tear in a sports accident. It was lazer repaired to 100%. Is there any other option available to us for a USNA appointment.


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Bigmav48 said:
My DS received a letter from the USNA today that said he was denied a waiver. He had a retina tear in a sports accident. It was lazer repaired to 100%. Is there any other option available to us for a USNA appointment.


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http://www.serviceacademyforums.com/showthread.php?t=36415
Look at this thread on the DODMERB forum. SAs decide about waivers. Another SA may be more flexible about this issue. USNA, in my understanding, grants few "eye" waivers because of the need to graduated unrestricted line holders and eye issues can cause restrictions in service. Did you send in info from your doc showing complete repair/no adverse function? Any chance of reinjury?

It's late in the process now. Maybe consider reapplying with more documentation, a different SA or ROTC.
 
Aaron95 said:
I did not take the ACT/SAT over again though, I had a 27 math and a 27 English score and a 620 math and 590 Critical Reading Score on the SAT.
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This may be (one of?) the reason why you got the TWE now rather than later. Both SAT scores border the low end of the 50th percentile in the c/o 2017 profile. Taking it again, even if you got the same score, shows persistence. The Admissions site suggests previous/college candidates "retake the ACT/SATs if you were not completely satisfied with your scores." Until you get that perfect score (or run out of time), candidates should take it over and over.
 
College applicants may not need to retake the SAT/ACT. If the scores were decent and the candidate gets As in the plebe courses, it's really not necessary.

Also, a great re-take of the SAT/ACT won't overcome poor college grades (mostly Bs and Cs).

I agree that, all things being equal, an improved score coupled with great college grades is ideal.
 
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