Appointment?

Last night I got the call from my MOC (NY-o3 Steve Israel) that I will receive a nomination (He uses the competitive slate so I am unranked along with the other 9 people on his list). I have a couple of questions about this now.
1. Because I am not a principle nomination, will this show up as a nomination on my admissions portal?
2. How long until I should expect to hear one way or another from USNA? (I finished my packet back in September and the only thing I have been waiting on was the nomination)
3. Assuming I do not get a BFE, will they let me know if and where I am on the wait list?

1. Yes, it will show up on your portal.
2. It depends....you could hear anytime from now through June. However, at this point in time the highest probability of hearing is between early Feb and mid-April. TWE notices started going out last year in early March.
3. You will be told if you are on the waiting list. If my memory serves correctly, the wait list notices were sent early April. I don't believe that you know where you are on the wait list. I recall several coming off of the wait list (with BFE) in mid to late May.

This is the reason I feel that when the USNA uses the term "rolling admissions" it is a misnomer. If a candidate was considered not qualified early in the process, they should be notified so that they can move on with renewed vigor to plan B. To wait until April for a TWE IS NOT ROLLING ADMISSIONS. To release a candidate that is truly a long shot earlier in the process would be doing them a huge favor.

I tend to agree with you in principle. However, it's not as easy as it sounds. There are candidates whose record improves during the course of the fall/winter (new scores, new awards, great fall grades) such that they are much more competitive come Jan. 31 than they were on Sept. 30. Also, all candidates who are not qualified for direct appointment are considered for NAPS/Foundation and those decisions aren't made until later in the process. Those truly unqualified won't be designated an official candidate so they won't be able to start the process.

In most cases, your BGO should be able to give you a sense of whether you are competitive. However, being competitive is very different than being likely to be offered an appointment. Many, many well-qualified, competitive candidates fall victim to the numbers game.

And, it goes without saying, that ALL candidates, no matter how well qualified, should vigorously pursue a Plan B.

Hi @nsbUSNA Congrats!! I also received a nomination from Congressman Steve Israel. I was just wondering what exactly competitive slate means?

It means that all nominees are placed on a slate (list) and USNA chooses who they will appoint off that list based on the whole candidate score (or other criteria such as recruited athlete). This is the "district winner." If you don't win your district, being nominated allows you to be put into the national pool then you compete with others for additional appointments. It also lets USNA offer NAPS if a candidate needs another year of academic help.

2018midmom said:

..... It also lets USNA offer NAPS if a candidate needs another year of academic help.

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Not sure what you mean with the NAPS comment? A nomination is not necessary to get an appointment to NAPS. It's a bit of an end-around - no nomination to NAPS but you then need one to get from NAPS to USNA. However, if you don't get one from a MOC, Pres., etc., SecNav nom will be given (assuming successful completion of NAPS year).

I did not mean to imply a nom was required for NAPS and after I typed it I thought better of it but didn't go back and change it. It may help (if you are not a RA) to be on a slate and in the national pool vs in the no Nom category but that's conjecture. Many of the non appointed that went to NAPS last year from this forum did also happen to have appointments (and there were some who had appointments revoked and then were sent to NAPS due to last year's admission mess.)

nodiva said:

This is the reason I feel that when the USNA uses the term "rolling admissions" it is a misnomer. If a candidate was considered not qualified early in the process, they should be notified so that they can move on with renewed vigor to plan B. To wait until April for a TWE IS NOT ROLLING ADMISSIONS. To release a candidate that is truly a long shot earlier in the process would be doing them a huge favor.

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I tend to agree, but for strictly reasons that apply directly to my DD who received an EA appointment to USAFA back in October. She has yet to accept her USAFA appointment till she hears from USNA. So now she sits on pins and needles wondering whether to just accept the USAFA appointment now or possibly wait till April 15th (or later?) to hear from USNA. DD actually contacted her BGO and USNA admissions regarding her USAFA appointment thinking it would stir the pot a bit. Her BGO actually asked for a copy of her USAFA appointment letter. That was back in November. She also has 3 noms for USNA. At this point she'd just like to hear from USNA one way or the other. Best of luck to all who are waiting.

If a principal nominee is DQ'ed, who initiates the process for a #2 (principal) nominee on an unranked slate?

*the verbiage in our MOC's paperwork and Naval academy contradicts.

Here's how I understand things-
There is only 1 principal nominee if your MOC designates one. There is not a #2(principal).
Depends on how the slate was submitted.
If slate was Principal with ranked alternates and principal is DQ'd, then USNA goes to the next on the ranking and if qualified, can offer them the appointment. They go down the list until the y find the first qualified ranked alternate.
If slate is Principal and unranked alternates, then USNA gets to decide who to offer the appointment to if the principal is DQ'd for whatever reason.