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Sons app finally complete. Took awhile to get cfa done due to sports injury, and still not at what he would have liked in terms of recovery, but did OK. Already passed dodmerb. Live in rural Midwest. Already know all the standard responses about noone knows for sure and circumstances dictate, but still curious about conventional wisdom with respect to chances. Here the general numbers.

3.79 GPA, standing is 20 out of 134 in class. Not super competitive school, but top end pretty good. Took all AP and honors classes available. Has AP calc, physics and literature/comp this year.

ACT scores: math 32, English 30, science 34, reading 30. Superscore 32.

Four years varsity soccer, team captain, all conf first team, all district first team. Three years varsity baseball, team captain. Also played freshman and jv basketball.

CFA: bb throw 79.5, pu 75, su 80, pu 12, shuttle 8.60, mile 5.28.

Three years NHS. President NHS.

Held job at law office three years.

His teacher assessments and letters of recommendation should be good, and he thinks his interview went well.

What say you all??
 
Ahhhh, now you enter the most difficult phase, the waiting, and waiting, and waiting. It will drive you nuts!! However, continue on Plan B and C. As you the parent, stay in his back pocket and keep him out of trouble!! And nag him to stay on top of those grades and get the 7th semester transcripts in on time. Meet with your FFR and stay in contact with your RC. If by chance your RC or his assistance are in the area, make an effort to meet, so they can attach a name to a face.

Please keep us posted on his progress.

Push Hard, Press Forward
 
Good luck! Remind him to be very careful with his conduct and who he hangs around with while he is waiting. If he receives an appointment, he must provide West Point with a copy of his police record.
 
Sons app finally complete. Took awhile to get cfa done due to sports injury, and still not at what he would have liked in terms of recovery, but did OK. Already passed dodmerb. Live in rural Midwest. Already know all the standard responses about noone knows for sure and circumstances dictate, but still curious about conventional wisdom with respect to chances. Here the general numbers.

3.79 GPA, standing is 20 out of 134 in class. Not super competitive school, but top end pretty good. Took all AP and honors classes available. Has AP calc, physics and literature/comp this year.

ACT scores: math 32, English 30, science 34, reading 30. Superscore 32.

Four years varsity soccer, team captain, all conf first team, all district first team. Three years varsity baseball, team captain. Also played freshman and jv basketball.

CFA: bb throw 79.5, pu 75, su 80, pu 12, shuttle 8.60, mile 5.28.

Three years NHS. President NHS.

Held job at law office three years.

His teacher assessments and letters of recommendation should be good, and he thinks his interview went well.

What say you all??

Whenever I read posts like this, I always like to kindly remind the candidate (and the parents) to make sure plans B, C, D, E and F are in place. I am being completely honest when I tell you that my son's numbers and stats, etc were much higher or the same in all of the categories you've listed, and he did not get into USNA last year. It was devastating because everyone was SO SURE for him, including surprise....his parents!! He was #3 in a class of 511 at a very competitive high school and blah, blah, blah...he was a top athlete and student at a high school of 2,200 students. He played the trumpet for 4 years and ran all of the music department fund raisers along with 6 varsity letters and 4 captaincies. He was well above the average requirement for SAT/ACT scores, tons of community service, won a leadership award at a USNA baseball camp, and even received nomination! We were even more sure after all that. Next came the wait!!! We waited, and waited and waited and waited and sadly in early April of 2015 the TWE arrived. After we embraced and sobbed hard for 10 minutes straight, it took him about 2 weeks to "mourn" and he decided his new goal was going to investigate ALL of the Service Academies since he had been so tunnel-visioned with USNA. After many visits to all of the academies and endless research, he decided to apply to USNA again, USMA, and Cost Guard. He just received a 4-year N-ROTC scholarship so he is THRILLED that if he doesn't get into 1 of those 3, he can still reach his dream/goal of serving his country by attending a great civilian school with his N-ROTC scholarship. USMA had recently moved ahead of USNA on his list after an extensive visit invite received by an LOE from USMA. He is finally feeling like that TWE happened for a reason and this year he is so happy with his plan B, C, D, E and F. Lesson learned by him and us as parents...the waiting is awful and do not let it consume you. It will if you let it. Instead, understand that kids with GREAT numbers, strong integrity, admirable honor, and an undying desire to serve this country get turned away from the military academies each and every year. My new personal outlook and posture this time around may sound gloomy but it's not meant to be. I am trying to "keep it real" this time! :) I now live by the thought which is to prepare for the worst BUT hold out hope and know that until that ugly TWE arrives, your candidate is STILL in this game. Good luck and I BEG you to make sure if there is any nagging to be done as a parent, it would be to convince your son to LOVE, LOVE, LOVE his plan B, C and D so that if he does (or doesn't) get in to USMA, it will be that much sweeter!!!!! :) GOOD LUCK!!!! :)
 
Sons app finally complete. Took awhile to get cfa done due to sports injury, and still not at what he would have liked in terms of recovery, but did OK. Already passed dodmerb. Live in rural Midwest. Already know all the standard responses about noone knows for sure and circumstances dictate, but still curious about conventional wisdom with respect to chances. Here the general numbers.

3.79 GPA, standing is 20 out of 134 in class. Not super competitive school, but top end pretty good. Took all AP and honors classes available. Has AP calc, physics and literature/comp this year.

ACT scores: math 32, English 30, science 34, reading 30. Superscore 32.

Four years varsity soccer, team captain, all conf first team, all district first team. Three years varsity baseball, team captain. Also played freshman and jv basketball.

CFA: bb throw 79.5, pu 75, su 80, pu 12, shuttle 8.60, mile 5.28.

Three years NHS. President NHS.

Held job at law office three years.

His teacher assessments and letters of recommendation should be good, and he thinks his interview went well.

What say you all??

Whenever I read posts like this, I always like to kindly remind the candidate (and the parents) to make sure plans B, C, D, E and F are in place. I am being completely honest when I tell you that my son's numbers and stats, etc were much higher or the same in all of the categories you've listed, and he did not get into USNA last year. It was devastating because everyone was SO SURE for him, including surprise....his parents!! He was #3 in a class of 511 at a very competitive high school and blah, blah, blah...he was a top athlete and student at a high school of 2,200 students. He played the trumpet for 4 years and ran all of the music department fund raisers along with 6 varsity letters and 4 captaincies. He was well above the average requirement for SAT/ACT scores, tons of community service, won a leadership award at a USNA baseball camp, and even received nomination! We were even more sure after all that. Next came the wait!!! We waited, and waited and waited and waited and sadly in early April of 2015 the TWE arrived. After we embraced and sobbed hard for 10 minutes straight, it took him about 2 weeks to "mourn" and he decided his new goal was going to investigate ALL of the Service Academies since he had been so tunnel-visioned with USNA. After many visits to all of the academies and endless research, he decided to apply to USNA again, USMA, and Cost Guard. He just received a 4-year N-ROTC scholarship so he is THRILLED that if he doesn't get into 1 of those 3, he can still reach his dream/goal of serving his country by attending a great civilian school with his N-ROTC scholarship. USMA had recently moved ahead of USNA on his list after an extensive visit invite received by an LOE from USMA. He is finally feeling like that TWE happened for a reason and this year he is so happy with his plan B, C, D, E and F. Lesson learned by him and us as parents...the waiting is awful and do not let it consume you. It will if you let it. Instead, understand that kids with GREAT numbers, strong integrity, admirable honor, and an undying desire to serve this country get turned away from the military academies each and every year. My new personal outlook and posture this time around may sound gloomy but it's not meant to be. I am trying to "keep it real" this time! :) I now live by the thought which is to prepare for the worst BUT hold out hope and know that until that ugly TWE arrives, your candidate is STILL in this game. Good luck and I BEG you to make sure if there is any nagging to be done as a parent, it would be to convince your son to LOVE, LOVE, LOVE his plan B, C and D so that if he does (or doesn't) get in to USMA, it will be that much sweeter!!!!! :) GOOD LUCK!!!! :)
Thank you. Rest assured, nothing is being taken for granted here. Indeed, to the contrary, he does not even have real optimism. It looks to me that he is "competitive", at least in our district, but only competitive. That is why I posted this; to get a perspective from others. The numbers I see on these forums are generally awesome, and I know that the academies are loaded with high achievers.

My son is applying to USMA, USNA, and USAFA. Also each ROTC. The ROTC option is very attractive to him, and at times I actually have wondered if he lost interest in the academies because he seemed so excited about the prospects of attending a few different colleges. He never gets too high or low.
Thank you for the perspective. I will miss him beyond description if he attends an accademy, but that goes with the territory. Just wondered if others here thought he was mildly, moderately, or very competitive.
 
Good luck! Remind him to be very careful with his conduct and who he hangs around with while he is waiting. If he receives an appointment, he must provide West Point with a copy of his police record.
His pop is a judge, and he understands more than most kids that he needs to make good choices all the time. But yes, I get what you are saying and think it's great advice.
 
Sons app finally complete. Took awhile to get cfa done due to sports injury, and still not at what he would have liked in terms of recovery, but did OK. Already passed dodmerb. Live in rural Midwest. Already know all the standard responses about noone knows for sure and circumstances dictate, but still curious about conventional wisdom with respect to chances. Here the general numbers.

3.79 GPA, standing is 20 out of 134 in class. Not super competitive school, but top end pretty good. Took all AP and honors classes available. Has AP calc, physics and literature/comp this year.

ACT scores: math 32, English 30, science 34, reading 30. Superscore 32.

Four years varsity soccer, team captain, all conf first team, all district first team. Three years varsity baseball, team captain. Also played freshman and jv basketball.

CFA: bb throw 79.5, pu 75, su 80, pu 12, shuttle 8.60, mile 5.28.

Three years NHS. President NHS.

Held job at law office three years.

His teacher assessments and letters of recommendation should be good, and he thinks his interview went well.

What say you all??

Whenever I read posts like this, I always like to kindly remind the candidate (and the parents) to make sure plans B, C, D, E and F are in place. I am being completely honest when I tell you that my son's numbers and stats, etc were much higher or the same in all of the categories you've listed, and he did not get into USNA last year. It was devastating because everyone was SO SURE for him, including surprise....his parents!! He was #3 in a class of 511 at a very competitive high school and blah, blah, blah...he was a top athlete and student at a high school of 2,200 students. He played the trumpet for 4 years and ran all of the music department fund raisers along with 6 varsity letters and 4 captaincies. He was well above the average requirement for SAT/ACT scores, tons of community service, won a leadership award at a USNA baseball camp, and even received nomination! We were even more sure after all that. Next came the wait!!! We waited, and waited and waited and waited and sadly in early April of 2015 the TWE arrived. After we embraced and sobbed hard for 10 minutes straight, it took him about 2 weeks to "mourn" and he decided his new goal was going to investigate ALL of the Service Academies since he had been so tunnel-visioned with USNA. After many visits to all of the academies and endless research, he decided to apply to USNA again, USMA, and Cost Guard. He just received a 4-year N-ROTC scholarship so he is THRILLED that if he doesn't get into 1 of those 3, he can still reach his dream/goal of serving his country by attending a great civilian school with his N-ROTC scholarship. USMA had recently moved ahead of USNA on his list after an extensive visit invite received by an LOE from USMA. He is finally feeling like that TWE happened for a reason and this year he is so happy with his plan B, C, D, E and F. Lesson learned by him and us as parents...the waiting is awful and do not let it consume you. It will if you let it. Instead, understand that kids with GREAT numbers, strong integrity, admirable honor, and an undying desire to serve this country get turned away from the military academies each and every year. My new personal outlook and posture this time around may sound gloomy but it's not meant to be. I am trying to "keep it real" this time! :) I now live by the thought which is to prepare for the worst BUT hold out hope and know that until that ugly TWE arrives, your candidate is STILL in this game. Good luck and I BEG you to make sure if there is any nagging to be done as a parent, it would be to convince your son to LOVE, LOVE, LOVE his plan B, C and D so that if he does (or doesn't) get in to USMA, it will be that much sweeter!!!!! :) GOOD LUCK!!!! :)
Thank you. Rest assured, nothing is being taken for granted here. Indeed, to the contrary, he does not even have real optimism. It looks to me that he is "competitive", at least in our district, but only competitive. That is why I posted this; to get a perspective from others. The numbers I see on these forums are generally awesome, and I know that the academies are loaded with high achievers.

My son is applying to USMA, USNA, and USAFA. Also each ROTC. The ROTC option is very attractive to him, and at times I actually have wondered if he lost interest in the academies because he seemed so excited about the prospects of attending a few different colleges. He never gets too high or low.
Thank you for the perspective. I will miss him beyond description if he attends an accademy, but that goes with the territory. Just wondered if others here thought he was mildly, moderately, or very competitive.

It sounds like he is very prepared for other options so that is great!! From the numbers I've read on this forum over the past year, it sounds like he'd be considered competitive, for sure. :) And you hit the nail on the head---this is probably the easiest part---the hard part will be when they leave!! :( Enjoy his senior year! Have fun!!!
 
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