Yield at the Naval Academy

parentofmen

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Does anyone know what the yield (percentage of candidates admitted who actually accept) is at the Naval Academy?
 
In previous years, those numbers have been available, but I didn't find those for 2013 in the current USNA catalog. Here were numbers posted in March 2009 for the Class of 2012:

Class of 2012
Applicants and Nominees
Applicants (includes nominees).............10,960
Number of applicants with an
official nomination............................. 3,838 (35 % nominated; 65 % rejected; 7122 rejected)
Nominees qualified scholastically,
medically and in physical aptitude..... 2,196 (57 % fully qualified; 43 % disqualified; 1642 disqualified)
Offers of admission................................ 1,537 (70 % offers made; 30 % rejected/NAPS/NAFP; 659 rejected/NAPS/NAFP)
Admitted.......................................... ..... 1,261 (82 % accepted offer; 18 % rejected offer)
Overall:
35 % out of 10960 applicants nominated; 65 % eliminated in total
20 % out of 10960 applicants are fully qualified; 80 % eliminated in total
14 % out of 10960 applicants are offered admission; 86 % eliminated in total
11.5 % out of 10960 applicants admitted; 88.5 % eliminated in total
 
Class of 2013 numbers

Target Class size - 1248
Applicants - 15,342
Applicants with a nom - 4388
Applicants fully qualified - 2524
Appointment offered - 1464
Admitted - 1251


So to answer your question 1251/1464 = 85.45%
 
In previous years, those numbers have been available, but I didn't find those for 2013 in the current USNA catalog. Here were numbers posted in March 2009 for the Class of 2012:

Class of 2012
Applicants and Nominees
Applicants (includes nominees).............10,960
Number of applicants with an
official nomination............................. 3,838 (35 % nominated; 65 % rejected; 7122 rejected)
Nominees qualified scholastically,
medically and in physical aptitude..... 2,196 (57 % fully qualified; 43 % disqualified; 1642 disqualified)
Offers of admission................................ 1,537 (70 % offers made; 30 % rejected/NAPS/NAFP; 659 rejected/NAPS/NAFP)
Admitted.......................................... ..... 1,261 (82 % accepted offer; 18 % rejected offer)
Overall:
35 % out of 10960 applicants nominated; 65 % eliminated in total
20 % out of 10960 applicants are fully qualified; 80 % eliminated in total
14 % out of 10960 applicants are offered admission; 86 % eliminated in total
11.5 % out of 10960 applicants admitted; 88.5 % eliminated in total

I always wondered if the "applicants" only include those who were issued official candidates numbers. What of those who applied for candidacy and were immediately determined to be non-competitive to the extent that they are not even issued a candidate number?
 
I believe "applicants" include those who don't get candidate numbers as well as those who never complete a single piece of their application. That is why I tell my candidates that merely completing everything ups your odds quite a bit.:smile:
 
I believe "applicants" include those who don't get candidate numbers as well as those who never complete a single piece of their application. That is why I tell my candidates that merely completing everything ups your odds quite a bit.:smile:

That is exactly what the assistant Dean said on may Candidate Visit Weekend.
 
What I heard at the Candidate Visit weekend is that the number counts all that complete the preliminary application which as you know is the first screening step, and all are not invited to continue the application process. It would also include those that choose not to complete the application.
 
I've been searching for this! If I'm understanding correctly:

Of the almost 2200 candidates are 3Q'd with a nomination, approx 1500 receive appointment? WOW, son's odds are looking better now.:smile:

Of the 700-ish qualified but not offered appointment, how many are offered NAPS? So, the remainder would be declined.

Of the 1500 appointed, about 270 (18%) decline? This is a higher number than I expected. I wonder how many of those who decline are accepting appointment at another SA?

That would leave the final (small) number who decline for varied reasons. Personally, I find this number of interest as our son is contemplating NROTC vs. USNA.
 
Of the almost 2200 candidates are 3Q'd with a nomination, approx 1500 receive appointment? WOW, son's odds are looking better now.:smile:

They are. However, realize this is a very highly competitive group.

Of the 700-ish qualified but not offered appointment, how many are offered NAPS?

Probably very few if any. NAPS is for folks who typically are NOT qualified acadmically. Thus, if you're triple Q'ed, it doesn't make sense to send you to NAPS for more academic prep.

So, the remainder would be declined.

Turned down, yes.

Of the 1500 appointed, about 270 (18%) decline? This is a higher number than I expected. I wonder how many of those who decline are accepting appointment at another SA?

I've never seen those stats. However, based on personal experience with candidates, I would say that most turn down USNA to go NROTC at a civilian college.

Personally, I find this number of interest as our son is contemplating NROTC vs. USNA.

Like I said . . . :smile:
 
For the sake of discussion...my husband and I have been speculating that a fair number of the 18% of candidates that decline their appointments were possibly "wooed" away by other schools because of Navy's delay in notification. Even Navy's application deadline of March 1st is late. There seemed to be a surge of activity followed by a long unexplained wait period...
 
For the sake of discussion...my husband and I have been speculating that a fair number of the 18% of candidates that decline their appointments were possibly "wooed" away by other schools because of Navy's delay in notification. Even Navy's application deadline of March 1st is late. There seemed to be a surge of activity followed by a long unexplained wait period...

I am not sure about that. A lot of kids will drop everything when their appointment arrives in May, or June. I have never seen one kid post in May or June that they finally got their appointment but won't accept because it's took too long.
The reasons that candidates don't accept their appointments are varied - some go to another SA; some go to NROTC in college; some become medically dq'd and others get cold feet.
 
For the sake of discussion...my husband and I have been speculating that a fair number of the 18% of candidates that decline their appointments were possibly "wooed" away by other schools because of Navy's delay in notification. Even Navy's application deadline of March 1st is late. There seemed to be a surge of activity followed by a long unexplained wait period...

The problem USNA and the other SAs have is the need for noms. They can't offer an appointment until they know the candidate has a nom and, for MOC noms, that's Jan. 31 or later. It then takes time to sort out which candidates to slot to which nom sources. This is why they have the LOAs. I'm not defending the process, just explaining it.

Remember that Early App and Early Dec are relatively new concepts . . . at least compared to the nom system, which has been around forever (or seems that way). You'd like to see Congress move up their deadlines but, given that they must change the law, figure the odds.:rolleyes:
 
Although a lot of kids will drop everything come May or June when an appointment finally comes in, I also think there are many who may have mentally accepted attending another school by then. Whether they actually want to go to the other college more than a SA or have just resigned themselves to thinking an apointment would not be coming, it could be emotionally hard to have to rethink their decision at such a late date.
 
Drop Everything

I know my son would drop everything to head off to the Academy if he got the call, no matter when it came. We've discussed that if he was accepted to a university for NROTC (his back up plan) and we'd already paid deposits for any of it, we (his parents) would gladly forfeit all of it for him to have the opportunity to attend the Academy.
 
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yep go back and look at some of the old wait list threads in June. There are kids who wait until I-day..... hoping.
 
If you receive a turndown, you are almost certain not to have USNA change its mind.

Those on the "bubble" are placed on a waitlist. My sticky above explains how this works, so I won't repeat it here. Those folks have the possibility of receiving an appointment.

I agree that individuals need to decide for themselves whether they would accept an appointment if it is offered at the last minute. USNA does its best to make all offers by June 1. While there are cases of offers coming after that, they are extremely few and far between.
 
I know my son would drop everything to head off to the Academy if he got the call, no matter when it came. We've discussed that if he was accepted to a university for NROTC (his back up plan) and we'd already paid deposits for any of it, we (his parents) would gladly forfeit all of it for him to have the opportunity to attend the Academy.


Son's Blue Gold told us if we have deposits for universities, the universities are required by law to refund the money of student is appointed to a Service Academy...this only applies to a Service Academy Appointment---do not know if it is true or not, but it is what we were told...something worth looking into if the situation arises...
 
Harmi ...re: the deposit, I've never seen or heard that one. While no doubt well intended, I confess to skepticism of its accuracy.

And having watched this a bunch of admission seasons, I doubt the possibility of those being offered appointments in May, June as probable, i.e. the number of "I decline the offer of appointment" @ that point is negligible, especially relative to the 200+ offered and decline. To the contrary, I'd speculate its the LOA types who have multiple choices that appear attractive to candidates.

Still, if they fail to grasp that USNA offer, they cannot be that stellar! :thumbdown::tank:
 
I can tell you that our state school did NOT refund dd's deposits when her medical waiver came through mid-May of 2008. Now whether they should have, I can't say.

Sometimes (probably not often) the "I decline" occurs because a candidate received offers of appointment to multiple SAs.
 
I've been searching for this! If I'm understanding correctly:

Of the almost 2200 candidates are 3Q'd with a nomination, approx 1500 receive appointment? WOW, son's odds are looking better now.:smile:

Of the 700-ish qualified but not offered appointment, how many are offered NAPS? So, the remainder would be declined.

Of the 1500 appointed, about 270 (18%) decline? This is a higher number than I expected. I wonder how many of those who decline are accepting appointment at another SA?

That would leave the final (small) number who decline for varied reasons. Personally, I find this number of interest as our son is contemplating NROTC vs. USNA.

Another interesting statistic that I'd be curious about is: How many of applicants for the service academies (all the academies) apply to more than one?

I would suspect it is fairly high. If that's the case, the "rejection" rate is a somewhat artificial number. It's not as if a kid is turning down West Point in order to attend Berkley.
 
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