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    The shift in the military

    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/U.S._support_for_Iraq_during_the_Iran-Iraq_war After the Iranian Revolution, enmity between Iran and the U.S. ran high. Realpolitikers in Washington concluded that Saddam was the "lesser of the two evils", support for Iraq gradually became the order of the day...
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    The shift in the military

    What are my provocations? Can you find something that I posted that I made up? Oh and about the Kurdish genocide, Hussein obviously was the one that gassed the Kurds and the Shia during the Iran-Iraq War but remind me, can you tell me who funded Saddam Hussein and gave him the chemical...
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    The shift in the military

    In case you try to delete it. Here it is . Mr. Patriot Z. He believes that the troops want to kill all the Iraqi men, women, and children.
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    The shift in the military

    I never said that. Don't put words into anyone's mouths and then argue against something you guessed.:thumbdown: i think the truth is very useful to education in an Academy or anywhere, for that matter. You should be careful about "our", many individuals here won't want to be grouped...
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    The shift in the military

    Speaking of illegaly taking hostages from embassies. Did you hear the news today, Zaphod? We took 6 Iranians from an Iranian consulate/embassy in northern Iraq?
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    Naval Academy summer seminar

    If you're worried about your score there are some very fine programs including Kaplan and Princeton Review that offer SAT Review.
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    The shift in the military

    First sentence: Commendable. However, as for the rest. Saying that someone is the bad guys or that we're better are value judgements, which differ from person to person. To chronicle what has happend so far, I said there was a shift in military. That led to the discussion about the Iraq...
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    The shift in the military

    I recalled this is the Lightning Forum debate and I followed the rules clearly and made no ad hominem attacks, although the Moderator did. But we can't expect authority to punish authority. :rolleyes: He didn't try to disable my membership though so I'll take it as a sign of relative fairness...
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    The shift in the military

    The reason why that is lamentable is that, althought it does seem like ancient history, Iran aided the United States in fighting the Taliban because as some are aware there was a large amount of opium production in Afghanistan and a lot of it was smuggled into Iran. Some saw this an opening but...
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    The shift in the military

    March 2000 then secretary of state Madeleine Albright stated her regret that Mossadegh was ousted: "The Eisenhower administration believed its actions were justified for strategic reasons. But the coup was clearly a setback for Iran's political development and it is easy to see now why many...
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    The shift in the military

    No, I don't deal in absolutes or assigning blame. Its you that sees the world as a prism of good and evil, with we being the good and the bad being whoever disagrees with us , us being a small segment of the right wing. IMO, if you believe that we didn't in intervene in 1953 or help...
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    The shift in the military

    Another distortion. The statements were qualified as saying as when the Soviet Union was wiped off the map. It was a mis-translation. It merely follows that he meant the government should collapse, not any nuclear destruction. Regardless, I remember a while ago when there was a reformist...
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    The shift in the military

    If only history started in 1979. But it started in 1953 when we overthrew their democratically elected government :thumbdown: and installed the Shah that they revolted against us in 1979. You can look into the Church Commitee Proceedings or "All the Shah's Men" if you are interested. Maybe you...
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    The shift in the military

    Sometimes a point by point refuation is neccesary and this is one of those times. Its merely your assumption that Iran and Syria do not have an interest in dealing. Iran helped us in Afghanistan, you can look that up for your self if you are interested in facts, although I highly doubt it...
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    The shift in the military

    Noone ever said diplomacy always works or is it the end it be all. However, what you don't understand about dialogue is that you lose nothing. Case in point follows. If you do a troop invasion and it doesn't work you've lost billions of dollars and thousands of lives. If diplomacy fails, you've...
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    The shift in the military

    The troop surge is mostly secondary. Opening up diplomatic ties with Iraq's neighbors is the main important idea.
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    The shift in the military

    Hornet pretty much summed up the first main point. The second main point is that there are several mixed cities. Ever hear of Baghdad? Sunni is the minority that had power under Saddam, Shia is the majority that has power now.
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    The shift in the military

    We're kind of diverging from the topic of the thread, but in the spirit of the conservation splitting into 3 nations is a foolish idea with no likelihood of success. The winning formula is to temporarily increase troops and to get into dialogue with Iraq's neighbors (Iran and Syria). Too bad our...
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    The shift in the military

    Let's look at the Clinton Administration. It is obvious to say that he wasn't popular and let's look at why. From my viewpoint. 1. By the time Clinton came in to office the Cold War was over. It would be foolish to keep up the type of spending on the Arms Race as under Reagan...
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    The shift in the military

    I don't have the original source (The Military Times poll) but I would love for someone to dig it up if they can find it.
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