13 hours-Battle for Benghazi

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  1. Wilco

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    Going today to see 13 hours; Secret Soldiers of Benghazi today with son home from AROTC. I read the book by Michael Zuckoff and thought it very good- and makes you proud that our military contains and produces such outstanding individuals. Book is non-political “just the facts mam”, and the survivors lived those facts. In end still left with unanswered questions-why was the U.S. Government-the State Department- not even remotely prepared and why did they reject the updated security requests of the security forces in place? Answers to these questions we will most likely never get.

    We all know when a U.S. Navy ship, hits a buoy, or another ship, the Captain’s career is over, and I
    understand military experience does not automatically equate to good president. But it does makes me uncomfortable that no matter who wins, in 2016 this country will have yet another president who has no military experience, and no family in the military (and yes I know Sen. Santorums boys are at Citadel.) The disconnect continues to grow.
     
  2. fencersmother

    fencersmother Founding Member

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    Tell us how it is before I unload what's left of my retirement savings to see a 2 hour movie.
     
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    I saw it the other day and thought it was pretty good. And I thought they did a good job of keeping it pretty apolitical
     
  4. Wilco

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    My amateur review with no spoilers is I liked the movie. I thought they followed the book pretty closely. To condense into a 2.5 hour movie they did make some of the characters 2 dimensional, which might have been a little unfair. What the movie doesn’t get into, but the book touches on, is the dysfunctional history of Bhenghazi. It was trampled on by Ghadafi and was thus ripe for the inter-militia fights once central power was removed. Clearly was the beginning of another failed state like Somalia. No surprises for anyone watching the area, and current rise of ISIS there. By coincidence a friend was at same showing with his sons. He is former Naval aviator with strong political views, and he admitted it was politically neutral much to his distress. With 4 kids we usually wait for DVDs, but this was worth trip with oldest son. Still impressed with the former military who work and worked as contractors.
     
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    Remember its a movie, made for entertainment value. Not a documentary.

    They were outstanding guys who just couldn't stop chasing the dragon to slay it.

    Push Hard, Press Forward
     
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    It's $5 night at my local cinema so I'm skipping my official Steelers-mourning period for this flick. I'm sure you can all rest easy now, knowing where I'll be for a few hours. :) (Though, still draped in black - and gold.)
     
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  7. LineInTheSand

    LineInTheSand USCGA 2006

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    I want to see this, The Revenant and Star Wars (this time in 3D).... So much to do!

    And then at the end of the month there's The Finest Hour.... And then in March Batman v Superman.

    So much to see!
     
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    My brother-in-law (USNA-83) and husband saw the movie... I opted for a nap after the Packer loss in overtime. Both were upset that the movie was NOT political enough and felt Hilary and Barack needed to be credited for what they didn't do as most young people are clueless about the connection. My husband's words were much harsher, but ah... gee... don't want to get too political here! I had a nice nap! :bleh2:
     
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    Interesting comments.

    I haven't watched the movie nor read the book.

    But my simple mind tells when a U.S. ambassador gets killed something went wrong. Perhaps it was bad luck, coincidence, something beyond anyone's control, but what did Secretary Clinton or President Obama do to take ownership of what happened?

    It seems like I am hearing "why does it matter now." It does matter as now to make sure something like that doesn't happen again.
     
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    Definitely go see The Revenant!

    I don't necessarily disagree that 13 Hours could've been more political, as all the requests for support went that route, but I think keeping it more neutral during election year keeps the film from being labeled as partisan "propaganda". There are some people in government that probably got off easy with the movie
     
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    LineInTheSand USCGA 2006

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    I saw it (The Revenant) tonight. WOW. It's one of the most intense movies I've seen in a very long time.
     
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    Revenant... This title seems familiar. Is it a young-adults book?

    Lots and lots of dead people in 13 hours, most of whom, IMHO, come under the heading of "They had it coming." Did not make the State Dept look particularly thoughtful, brave, or acting with discretion or discernment.
    Worth every penny of my $5.
     
  13. LineInTheSand

    LineInTheSand USCGA 2006

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    Revenant has plenty of dead (scalped) people in it.
     
  14. RocketDad

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    Good movie. I did not read the book. It's a really intense movie too.

    I saw it with my DS who is applying to the SAs for the Class of 2020. It was good for him to see how dysfunctional things can be and the price people have to pay for that dysfunction and for failed leadership. Ironically, we had just watched Blackhawk Down too.
     
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    I had a little break because of the weather and took advantage to go see 13 Hours. I enjoyed the movie, read the book and enjoyed it.

    Push Hard, Press Forward
     
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    Just saw it! In terms of blood, guts and hygiene, it makes Braveheart look like the Brady Bunch.

    The plotline itself was a little thin, but maybe the best cinematography I've ever seen.
     

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