2.8 GPA-Worried about EA

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  1. AH2299

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    Hey I only have a 2.8 GPA now and I don't think I'll improve much this semester before I send my EA package. My Det average of 200s is around 3.3/4. I am non tech and want to go pilot. I have a 100 PFA and haven't taken the AFOQT yet. I am top third in my flight(for now). I am on Honor Guard and participate a lot.

    What is a good AFOQT score for each section to even the odds? Will taking the TBAS help?
     
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    The TBAS is only used for rated/pilot. The score does not compute into your AFOQT score. A good score is 90's, but generally most score in the 50-70 range. Remember the AFOQT is scored as a 90 = the 90th percentile. Meaning you scored higher than 90% who took the test. You also need to perform well for the pilot section and get flight hours if you want pilot. With a GPA that low you are really hurting yourself. Academics are huge and affect everything all the way till you commission. There is really nothing you can do about it now except study for the AFOQT. But I say this with all honesty, DO NOT let your grades slip further because you are studying for the AFOQT. You are extremely close to the danger zone. Like I said there is not much you can do now so just hope for the best, don't let it get to you and stay involved. If you are really struggling let your CC know and get off some ROTC events so you can get your grades up.
     
  3. AH2299

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    Yes I want to go rated. Does your TBAS effect your EA? I believe some cadets took it early.

    Does your FTP performance effect your commander's ranking?

    For flight ranking what does top half/top third etc mean?
     
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    TBAS is only for cadets going up for a rated board (300s). AFOQT is for 200s and will also be used for non-rated cadets when they go up for their AFSC.
    ~ For cadets trying to go rated the TBAS will be used instead of their AFOQT when they meet the rated board. When you go to take the TBAS they will ask you to bring your flight log book. That is why zero said get in some flight hours.
    ~~ I have never heard of 200s taking the TBAS. I am not saying that it doesn't occur, but in my opinion it would be foolish to take it unless they have a PPL.

    Either way it doesn't matter for you because you need to take the AFOQT.

    The EA board is pretty simple from an algorithm perspective. Each subsection will be a certain percentage of the WCS. They add up the points for your score. HQ AFROTC than says we have X amount of slots and draw a line. Above you go, below you don't.
    ~ Thus even a small bump up in your cgpa can be placing you above the line.

    I do agree with zero, you are flirting at a dangerous level, not only for SFT, but one year from now as a 300 you will be meeting the rated board and that cgpa will be on your back again.

    Right now there is nothing you can do, and it would be foolish for anyone to say yea or nay because last year in the end it was 91% selection rate, the year before that it was 58% overall. Nobody knows what HQ is going to say that they need from a manpower aspect in 2018.
     
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    TBAS does not affect your EA, it does however go into rated. The pilot rated boards use AFOQT pilot score and TBAS scores, NAV uses a different set.

    FTP performance does not directly effect your CC ranking, but on the backline it does, everything does.

    Flight ranking in FT? means you are ranked in that section. So if there are 9 cadets and you are top 3rd then you are 1,2, or 3.
     
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    Flight ranking in my flight as a AS200. I don't get it. So I am I top of the 3rd last fraction? Or number 3 highest.
     
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    It is a way of saying you are in the top area, they usually will not give you exactly where you rank. So top 3rd means you are in the top 1/3. Take the amount of cadets in your flight, if you are top 3rd do the division, you are in that "group".

    PS - Your flight ranking at your detachment means nothing. Other than it may get reported to your CC but not likely. But it does tell you where you stand among the detachment top middle or bottom.
     
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    I asked a POC and he said it was marginal. Commander's ranking he said really depends on CGPA, PFA and participation.
     
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    Right, it all depends on the detachment. Your CC looks at everything and racks and stacks however he/she wants.
     
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    I have a question how the EA OLM works. For my Det its 25% GPA, 10% PFA, 25% AFOQT, 40% Commander's ranking.

    So a if someone gets a 4.0= 100% of the 25 percent of that pie chart is filled out, 3.0=0.75 of that, 2.0=0.5 of that. Or is a lower grade more dramatic? Or does it go by a more academic level where 3.0=B or 80%?

    Also PFA does it mean a 100 score results in 100 percent the 10 percent of the chart is filled out, 97=97 percent etc. Or is it more dramatic like only on a 80-100 scale where there is a big differene in a 90 and a 100?
     
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    You will have to look up the most recent AFROTCI, this was out of my copy on my PC.

    2.4.1.3. The OM is calculated by multiplying the RSS, cumulative GPA, PFT and SAT-R by their weighted factors then adding them together (Example: (RSS*5) + (Cum GPA*5) + (PFT*0.15) + (SAT-R*0.009375). Applicants will be selected based on their OM. Applicants not selected will either be released from the program (non-contract) or investigated for disenrollment (contracted).

    Table 2.1: PSP Order of Merit (OM) Factors
    FACTORS - RANGE - MULTIPLIED BY = WEIGHT (x)
    RSS (Class rank) 5-10 x 5 ( 50 )
    GPA 2.0-4.0 x 5 ( 20 )
    PFT 75-100 x .15 (15 )
    SAT(or AFOQT) 650-1600 x 0.009375 (15 )


    Again this is the old averages and weights, find the correct ones in your current AFROTCI. It will however give you an idea.

    NOTES: 1. The formula for calculating the RSS is (5*((1-R/C)+0.5/C))+5 where R=UCR and C=Class Size. 2. The SAT-R is used only for selection processing (see conversion chart Table 2.2
     
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    I just took my AFOQT. I did well but didn't do great. It was taken on Oct 31. To retake it I believe I have to wait another 6 months correct? I would have sent my EA package by then. I heard you can retake it if you failed and replace your score before you get your EA results, but I am not sure if it changes your EA.

    Also does AFOQT only look at Math and Reading as an SAT equiv for Field Training EA?
     

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