2011 NROTC Denied Acceptance Notifications?

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  1. Ayce

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    First off, sorry if a thread similar to this already exists, I tried to find one before putting this up but I guess I'm the first one. I've heard rumors that the selection board can deny your acceptance for the scholarship before april when the boards are finished. Is this true, or do you have to have an outstandingly undesirable application? While I'm here I was wondering if anyone can maybe hint at how I stack up to other applicants? (I know being analytical won't increase the odds of getting one but it sure would help me get through the day when I check the status and it hasn't been decided yet haha.) I am Cadet Commanding Officer in our schools NJROTC program, I lead the our armed drill team in competitions, I've made sure to do at least 10+ hours of community service hours each year, earned my letter in varsity track and field, member of school clubs, black belt in taekwondo, I've held two seperate jobs, and partaken in a few leadership events such as the 2009 NROTC Leadership Academy, I've taken all the hardest math and science classes including AP Calculus, but my gpa is around 3.4 or 3.5 weighted. And lastly my best SAT score is 1850. Oh and I selected a tier 3 degree on my scholarship (Psychology). Any and all help is much appreciated!!
     
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    This is a good thread. Thank you for taking the time to research your question before asking.

    On the AFROTC 22 Jan Board, some folks are reporting that they've been turned down before all of the boards have completed. But I haven't heard this happening for NROTC. I'm not the expert, but I would be surprised if you have "outstandingly undesireable" stats. I would expect that once the NROTC results are released, people will start posting their stats and you'll be able to see how you stack up.

    However, there was one post (post #209 on the November 2010 NROTC results), which that seems to suggest that a bulk of the allowed scholarships have been already offered. What this means is that last year's data is not reliable for predicting this year (this year is supposed to be much tougher).
     
  3. Ayce

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    I'm wondering if they segment the scholarships they offer between the tier 1 and tier 2/3 majors. Because I believe 85% of the scholarships are for tier 1(engineering etc.) majors and the last 15% are for other the other tiers. So that plus the rumor that the bulk of the scholarships have already been handed out would be good news for me but I think there is way too much speculation going around to try and predicct results =[ Oh well I suppose
     
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    Ayce Deny?

    What do you mean "deny acceptance" of scholarship? Could you explain, please?

    Do you mean after a scholarship is offered, and it has been accepted, are you saying the the NROTC can turn around and deny the acceptance? I have never heard of that, but that may not be what you mean.
     
  5. Ayce

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    I mean it as in you go to check your status on the NROTC web page and for instance it would say "We're sorry but you have not been selected to recieve a NROTC scholarship at this time." instead of, "No decision has been made on your application. " This hasn't happened to me but I have heard rumors of it happening to others.
     
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    My DS applied for NROTC, same major, and he wasn't successful. A weighted GPA of 3.4 is not strong enough IMO. My DS was 3.5 unweighted (4.5 weighted), and he has taken honors and AP classes all the way through high school.
     
  7. Ayce

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    I agree, I have been hoping that the other factors on my application will ease the sting of that relatively low GPA. Plus I was told my officer interview couldn't have gone better. There are no 2 year scholarships through NROTC are there? It's only 4 year or no scholarship, correct?
     
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    My DS's interviews couldn't have gone any better plus he had outstanding references. At the end of the day the Navy are looking to fill the bulk of their ROTC places with technical majors.

    Have you been accepted at any colleges yet? I would be interested to know what your unweighted GPA is, especially the recalculated version some colleges use.
     
  9. Ayce

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    Yes I've applied to 8 universities all around the U.S. and have been accepted to 7 out of the 8. University of Idaho is my first pick followed by Oregon State and University of Colorado. The other colleges I've been accepted to are U of New Mexico, Arizona State, U of Arizona, and Penn State. The one I haven't been accepted to yet is Tulane University in Louisianna. I have no idea what my unweighted GPA is, I have a creeping feeling that I mistook the 3.4 for my unweighted GPA. Even if that's the case my weighted wouldn't be any higher than a 3.7.
     
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    3.4 UW sounds a lot better. I doubt you would get accepted to most colleges with a weighted GPA of 3.4.

    I still think a NROTC scholarship for psychology is a stretch though. They really do seem to want to use the ROTC to fulfill technical need.
     
  11. Ayce

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    The problem is, when I filled out the application, I'm not gonna say I was oblivious to other choices, but I was kind of infatuated with the idea of being a psychologist. After I submitted the app though I talked with a looooottttt of people about a lot of things and I decided that I would rather do something involving computers and software or even anything slightly indicative of working woth computers which I would assume mostly falls under tier 1 majors. The unfortunate part is that I can't change my choice.
     
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    Computer science is a tier two. And you can change your major on the application.
     
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    Yeah but I tried to change a different thing not more than a week or two ago and they said all changes had to be finalized before the end of January =[
     
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    Really?! Does this mean I wouldn't be able to re-order my college choices on the application?
     
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    Well I'm not going to say anything for certain. I re-ordered my college choices right at the beginning of january 2011 without a problem. Then there was a misunderstanding with some SAT information they recieved and they said it couldn't be corrected this late (post january 2011). Nevertheless I just emailed them asking if that only applied to SAT information and what sort of effects changing my majors would have on my application and am currently awaiting a response.
     
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    No you can still change your college choices for NROTC.
     
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    DS was one of those who got the notice for AFROTC that says "no scholarship....) Can't bellieve he was turned down flat wichout being heldover to the next board.

    All A's for the past 4 years, has taken PASHTU for 2 years in HS, Eagle Scout, Boys State, Fenceing for 3 years, sat's of 1310 (not incl. writing) bla bla bla.....just like everyone else. He's applied to NROTC and we are really worried what is going to happen. He has already gotten in to Rutgers Univ. Honors college for Eng. with a scholarship, Embry Riddle with scholarship, and Valley Forge full ride for their ECP, Nominations to West point and AFA.....GRRRRRRR..... so have no idea what anyone is looking for and getting very frustrated....

    DS is so much better about the stress and the waiting. Guess that's why he's going militay and not his mom and dad! Anyone have any idea what is going on with the boards and who they are looking for? We were told he scored expremly high in all his interviews...

    Sorry for the long post....
     
  18. luckymacy

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    I hear you. I had the same thought about the LOAs given out by the SAs. I think we will never be told specifics. If we asked everyone what their SAT scores were or something objective like that I still am not convinced we would be satisfied we could have predicted it all. I can tell you what I wrote last year. Navy ROTC employee asked my son what his SAT scores were. After he said he took the test once and got 770 math and 740 reading, they said oh my gosh you need to contact a navy recruiter to get an instant scholarship. He didn't find anyone who knew about that but he did eventually get a tier 1 to Penn state, his first choice, to study aerospace engineering. Along the way his essays and interviews revolved a lot around his private pilots license and desire to be a pilot. Dittos on the type 1 AF ROTC SCHOLARSHIP he received. Same reaction by the AF ROTC personnel we interfaced with. That is all I know. They seemed to zero in immediately on the sat scores, degree sought and also that his high school transcript backed up his SAT score.

    The navy doesn't give a fitness test and the air force does during this stage. I think that part is not overly important for rotc up front.
     
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    When my DS started down this complicated road last year, I reminded him that there will be so many variables involved in this process that have absolutely NOTHING to do with his academic or other credentials. A lot of decisions depend on things like timing, school choice selection (didn't realize until recently how important this is), academic major selection, which congressional district you reside in for an MOC nom to an SA, etc. These are things no one can really control, or should even TRY to control.

    I also told my DS to expect some ego-bruising decisions that won't go his way. I hope he really understands (despite my reminders) that I will be proud of him regardless of the path in life he ultimately decides to take.

    This application process has been a very instructive "life lesson" for him. That, in itself, has value. It will be very interesting to see what kind of advice my DS gives to HIS DS/DD someday, if I ever become a grandpa.

    The big life lesson for me personally, which I have learned from the other parents and candidates here on SAF who have helped me and others, is that the idea of "service to others" doesn't just apply to military service.
     
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    I honestly couldn't agree with you more.

    When I first applied for this process, I thought if I applied early, I would hear back early, and I could apply early decision to my #1 school. I wholly underestimated the process and I actually didn't hear word about my NROTC scholarship until roughly 6 months after I submitted my application.

    That being said, If there's any one thing I could advise to anyone, It would be patience. Patience, Patience, Patience. I know it's hard to just put your pending scholarship in the back of your mind and I know it's hard to not check the status every day, read these forums and extract the most benign information to mean something significant, or even just worry and panic about how your future is going to look. Trust me, I did all this and my mind was not put to rest until the day I heard about my scholarship. Please learn from my experience.

    But please, do yourself a favor and let the process work itself through. We are currently in mid-Feb and the scholarship season is not officially over until April.

    For those of you who still have not heard back: indeed, some of you will not be awarded scholarships despite how incredibly your credentials might be. What I've learned is if you are truly intent on serving your country as an officer whilst getting a college education, you WILL be able to work it out. Apply to state schools that your academic credentials far exceed the average student- they will give you money, and they will give you lots of it. Join NROTC, AROTC, AFROTC during college and even if you don't end up receiving a scholarship, you will have the opportunity to commission.

    For those of you only interested in Navy, I would check out the BDCP program. After I was sure that I wouldn't be getting a scholarship, I started to research alternative commissioning sources and BDCP caught my eye.

    Hope any of this helps you and assuages your angst.

    Josh
     

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