Discussion in 'Naval Academy - USNA' started by blackhawkmom, Jul 4, 2010.
Just wondering when a profile of the class of 2014 will be posted.
Class of 2914 stats
The press kit on this link has some stats:
If the link doesn't take you there, go to USNA website, click on Public Affairs on left side and it will take you to the Virtual Press Kit where you can find the stats.
I recall how much press was given to the Class of 2013 for being the most "diverse" class in academy history. You could hardly read a news article or watch a TV news report without this being mentioned.
I have heard nothing about the "diversity" of the Class of 2014.
I have a sneaking suspicion that 2014 is even more diverse - but the Naval Academy has ceased trumpeting that particular aspect.
Again, just a theory.
Wow. More than 17,000 applicants and a little over 1,200 appointees--a selection rate of only 7% That's the thinnest selection rate I can recall seeing for any of the academies at any time. The profile page didn't list average GPA or SAT/ACT scores. I'd like to know what those numbers are.
do the number of total applicants- the 17000- include those that did not receive a candidate package?
if i recall 7 percent is near the same figure as with harvard and MIT
From what I've heard, the total number of applicants is ANYBODY who went online and applied for a candidate number. Those who did not receive a candidate number, I believe, are included in the count.
I imagine, there is a significant number who have no business even applying. But I'm sure that is also true of Harvard and MIT.
looking at the stats from link above, second page shows:
The Class of 2014 includes 263 women (21%) and a total of 438 minority midshipmen (35%) with ethnic backgrounds as follows:
Ethnic background Number
African American 129
Asian American 101
Native American 17
Hawaiian/Pacific Islander 13
The Class of 2013 was comprised of 20% women and 35% minority midshipmen
I recall on west point site over a week ago - they had the stats of their 2014 class
From your numbers above, it appears that the Class of 2014, at a minimum, equaled the 2013's "diversity" percentage. And yet, not a peep out of the Academy. They heralded this statistic last year.
I'm guessing that in the wake of World Series color guard fiasco, the Superintendent being under the microscope for his agenda-laden administration, and the Bruce Fleming article ... the Naval Academy has wisely thought it best to downplay the issue of "diversity" this year.
Prediction: The Class of 2015 will be LESS "diverse" that either 2013 & 2014.
Would you mind sharing the link to that page? I've looked for it and can't find it. Thanks.
thread name What's a minority? about 1 week ago -
I dont know how to paste a link but within that thread identified is:
1 Week Ago
elan_xu Join Date: May 2010
You see, for class 2014:
"Minority enrollment, roughly 26 percent of the incoming class, includes
126 African-Americans, (the highest number in West Point’s history),
125 Hispanic Americans and
13 Native Americans."
hope that helps
Very impressive numbers, although I do think that including all those who ask for a candidate number skews things a bit to lower the acceptance percentage. A Harvard or MIT will certainly have unqualified applicants included in their number, but their figures are still based on all who have completed an application. Bottom line, though, is that the numbers and anecdotal evidence seem to show that the service academies are increasingly competitive and are drawing an incredible pool. This should continue as civilian college tuitions spiral into the stratosphere.
But, unlike Harvard, the Naval Academy pre-screens applicants. Harvard will accept your application fee even though they know you do not have a snowball's chance in hell.
I found this story buried on a Navy-specific website. Really, it's just a blog ...
Apparently, the Class of 2014 did top the Class of 2013 as "the most diverse class" in the history of the Naval Academy.
Didn't I predict that?
And, yet, where have you read about that in any news publication or report? The administration was sounding it of with a top-of-the-lung scream for the Class of 2013. But now, they are only whispering in the corridors of the admissions building.
The "political correctness" is so thick in the air you could cut it with a knife.
thanks memphis - i will pass along your post to my dad, 52 grad.
Perhaps this is good news for my reapplying white male son.
Oh, I'm absolutely convinced the pendulum is getting ready to swing back toward the middle. It probably will not fully take effect until the Class of 2016. I'm guessing there is going to be some residual momentum from the current administration's "agenda."
But I'll predict that the Class of 2015 will not trump either the Class of 2013 or 2014 on the Navy's "#1 priority" (in time of war) of making the Navy "diverse".
Not so sure about the Diversity Agenda being any different in the years to come. Have it from a good source - 2 star - who is on the Foundation Board, 51 Grad, that the directive comes from farther up the food chain, about where the Military Chain of Command ends... "USNA is the poster institution of the Navy, diversity in our Officer ranks will start there" was the quote my source heard from that individual. ADM Fowler takes a lot of heat for certain policies that we all seem to want to believe start with him. Many new grads that I know will tell you they believe a fair many of them come from above.
You may be right.
The CNO (Chief of Naval Operations), Admiral Gary Roughead, has declared the Navy's "#1 priority" is achieving diversity in amongst the officer ranks.
He has been highly criticized for this warped priority in the context of a nation at war. It's hard to imagine how social engineering could take a front seat to combat readiness. Perhaps peace time would be the appropriate time to perform social experiments in the military.
I've spent some time searching and still have been unable to find the official 2014 class profile stats apart from the diversity numbers--e.g., SAT/ACT, GPA, leadership/extracurricular activities. I can't even find that information for the 2013 class profile. This information is published for classes 2012 and earlier, however. If anyone knows where the official numbers are for the class of 2014, please post a link. If the admission selection rate is approaching the admission selection rate of a Stanford or a Harvard, I would expect to see the other numbers becoming more competitive as well, especially if the surge in minority admissions is due to highly competitive minority applicants choosing the Naval Academy over a Harvard or a Stanford--which, if I understand the Naval Academy's justification for the surge correctly, is what senior Navy leadership has been trying to do. In my opinion, that would be great if they've been able to pull it off. If they've cut corners to get there, maybe that's not so great.
Of course the USNA has increased minority recruitment through their efforts to attract more highly competitive minority applicants. If you look at the average SAT/ACT and GPA scores of incoming minority freshmen and the stats of the graduating minority students, you'll see why the USNA is so justifiably proud of their accomplishments.
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