2015 EA selection rate, predictions this year?

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  1. AH2299

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    Hello I am a Sophomore AS200. I will send my EA package this semester and plan to finish FTP next semester. Hopefully I get my EA and go to field training.

    I have a 3.1 GPA and a non-tech major. I plan on going rated specifically an RPA pilot.

    What was the EA selection rate this year. The majority the 200 class in my Det last year went to field training. I believe even a 2.7 GPA non-tech major made it since they had extras because Academy cadets were so low.

    What are the predictions this year. I heard it will be a good year, since military spending has increased and Academy cadets are even lower than last year. (820 now vs 840 graduating last year). Rated non-tech always have a higher chance than nonrated nontech correct? How does this compare to techs(rated and nonrated). Also what was the GPA average for each?

    Also, what is the current Pie Chart of percentages betwen Commander's ranking, AFOQT/SAT, PFA scores and GPA? Does FTP performance matter a lot in your Commander's ranking? Does Navagation scores of AFQT factor in to this?

    Also when do I take PCSM?
     
  2. I-am-Will

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    EA selection was in the 80s. There's no way to accurately predict what the selection rate is going to be this year. It's all based on the needs of the Air Force. The selection rate for my year was around 55%.
     
  3. Zero

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    Like he said nobody knows, just like the last year thread and the years before that. However spending increase does not mean a recruiting increase, if academy cadets are even lower than does that mean ROTC is lower or higher? Why would they lower one and not the other? Think about it, it honestly is completely random and depends on AF needs which they can grasp each source to their advantage as they have different times when each gets "the slot". Go google the percentages or look up the previous threads, its not far back or hard to find. The current rankings and stratifications for field training and rated are found in the AFI/ROTCI.

    You don't take the PCSM. Google PCSM 2.0 and you will find the official website. If you want to be rated you should read it and all the FAQ that goes with it. (I assume you meant take the TBAS, which is dependent on your detachment.)
     
  4. Pima

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    One reason people can't really give a statistical number is because nobody here knows what the pool size is for this year group. If you have 2800 in the pool and they want to stay at 2000 than your chances will be lower than if they have 2300 cadets in the group.

    Someone can correct me, but you go in saying rated or non-rated. The exception I have known of was a few years back they offered scholarships to cadets that signed on as 100 or 200s saying they would only go ABM or CSO. In those cases the board knew they were already tracked. The rest went into the pile of rated, hence even if you intend to go RPA I don't think that will be part of your package.

    I also agree this is a budgetary issue. I believe it was I am Will's year group that got hit the double whammy. Low rate and they shortened the course to 23 days so they didn't have to pay them since it was less than a month. A year later the number was higher and they were back to 28 days. I believe this year was also the 1st in a very long time that they brought back summer training for C100s on scholarship.
    ~ Does that mean they have more money? Maybe, maybe not. It may have been decided that they felt it was important and moved money from one place to another so they could afford to do this.
     
  5. Sled

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    My scholarship wasn't "rated" but my EA package was. You can say you want to go rated and it arguably gives you a better chance of getting picked up. Otherwise you can go "tech" or "nontech" and go up for the rated boards once you get through FT.

    As far as the budget and selection rates go I'm nervous for this next year. They tend to be really cyclical and last year they handed scholarships out like candy, had 100s on scholarship attend PDT, and had us down at FT longer. Even though they still didn't pay us for FT at 28 days it means more meals, equipment, and supplies which end up costing a lot of money. If my calculations are correct a single flight eats about $3000 worth of just MREs at CSJFT! Who knows, they may have plenty of money for the next year or they may say "Holy cow! We need to cut back from last year!" Cadre at CSJFTC and back at the det have now told us they aren't going to be going to Camp Shelby for the AEF portion anymore and will be doing it right at Maxwell. Your theory may be right in that they are just shifting money around.
     
  6. derek44

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    You are correct, historically rated-intent non-technical degrees have better selection rates because they board first, before non-rated-intent non-tech board which boards last. There exists for the purpose of Enrollment Allocations at the undergraduate level a non-tech EA, tech EA, and rated EA. If you have a non-tech degree, you should indicate rated-intent so you will board first. Which means you must apply for a rated position, but unless you have good AFOQT Pilot/CSO/ABM scores, you won't get a rated slot. There is a provision that says you may be subject to dismissal or a disenrollment investigation for not getting a rated slot with a rated EA, but you will almost always just continue in the program.

    In 2014 these were the results:

    Overall Select Rate: 60%
    Tech Select: 65.5%
    Rated Selects: 60.4%
    Non-Tech/non-rated select: 17%
    Nurse Select Rate: 43%

    2015 faired a lot better, with an 85% overall selection rate.

    There was a rumor on the 2015 EA thread about cadets meeting a general at the Arnold Air Society / Silver Wings National Convention who said that selection rates would be higher still.

    For rated EAs: "You have received a Rated-Non-Tech Enrollment Allocation and are now classified as a RATED officer candidate based on indicated career interest. You are required to meet the Rated board, which typically convenes in Jan of the Fiscal Year prior to your commissioning. ...Until told otherwise, should you choose to not apply for the rated board, not get selected for rated duty as a result of the board, or become disqualified for rated service, you may be subject to dismissal or a disenrollment investigation."
     
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  7. AH2299

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    So when I submit my EA package, there is a spot where I will choose my career interest(s) correct?
     
  8. AlphaAlphaSigma

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    You don't submit it. You have to be nominated for EA competition by your Commander. If you do get nominated your Commander will ask do you want to compete for a Rated EA slot or Non-Rated EA slot. There will be a blank spot on your package that your commander will write as Non-rated Non-tech or Rated-Nontech. You do not state your career interest on your EA package other than you want to go rated or not. Your Form 53 which you will fill junior year is your career interest form.
     
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  9. Sled

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    Yep, Col Wydra at FT said as of now it looks like the number selected will be even higher next year. It's all a guess at this point though, it may just be leaning one way.
     
  10. derek44

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    I also forgot to mention, there could also be a separate foreign language board just for those majoring in foreign langues (whether critical or not I do not know) and they receive non-tech EAs
     
  11. Sled

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    Like others said it is rated, nontech, and tech that you are classified as. Once you are contracted though good luck with trying to ever change your major. If you go to school for finance and would like to be a scientist in the AF you may find that it won't work out in your favor. If that is what you mean by career interest yes if not you will fill out your Form 53 for AFSCs your junior year.
     
  12. Pima

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    Just me, but I think the OP left the building. This is for the lurkers regarding SFT selection

    Besides the nobody knows aspect, but here is the big thing. Talk to your unit. Talk to the 300s that just finished SFT. What was their cgpa, their PFA, their AFOQT that are comparable to you as a cadet. Non-tech/rated.

    3.1 is low for non-tech, but maybe not if you are attending Stanford, Yale, UPenn, UVA, etc. 3.4 might be common at your unit.

    60% might be common at your college.

    This reminds me of ERAU and how they boast that they award the next highest pilot slots after USAFA. This is true, but the thing they don't boast is statistical chances.
    ~ If I said to a candidate that ERAU had 93% selected, but VT had 100%, would you change your opinion?

    That is what this comes down to. Yes, it is national, but it is not white or black. They are looking at a lot of things, including everything from that cgpa to AFOQT and ranking.
     
  13. Pima

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    Off topic, but on topic...guess what is being floated about again?
    Govt shutdown!

    Granted that will occur in Oct., but nobody knows what will happen once it is back up again if it does happen, especially since sequestration is still occurring. They may be forced into some kind of compromise.
     

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