2020 class size

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  1. brovol

    brovol Member

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    On R-day it was reported that the 2020 class size was over 1300. This came as a suprise to me, as I though that class size should be reducing over the next few years, and 1300 seems large. The size of USNA and USAFA 2020 classes are both well under 1200. Does anyone have any insight into why this is such a high number?

    I was thinking about the expectation that this was going to be a more difficult Beast than in recent years. Could it be that USMA is banking on higher attrition?

    Do the academies decide how large a class will be, or is there a directive? I know they plan on only a certain percentage accepting appointments, and maybe that percentage was higher than normal, but you would think they would control that by offering appointments in waves after assessing the numbers as far as acceptance of the appointments made.

    Any thoughts?
     
  2. ca2midwestmom

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    I believe by law there can be no more than 4400 cadets at WP at any given time. True, other classes started with ~1200, but after 1-3 years, graduating classes are closer to 1000 +/-. Whether Beast will be harder or attrition will be higher, the class of 2020 will dwindle over the next 4 years.

    BTW, once your cadet completes first semester (and then 2nd semester, 3rd semester, etc), they will be given their OML rank -- ex 300/1200. That ranking will likely change each semester, up or down, depending on gpa of academics, military and physical grades. Cadets will leave during Beast, after Beast, after 1st semester, at the end of Plebe year....all the way up to graduation (unfortunately), for multiple reasons -- medical/injuries, academics, honor violations, etc. Some will voluntarily separate; some will involuntarily separate. Some will leave for a semester or year and return to be part of the next class (usually for medical reasons; Mormon missionaries; or for an army program offered to cadets with potential but facing an honor board (I can't remember what it's called -- anyone else?)).

    Perhaps the attrition rate has been higher for the last few classes and WP wants to get the 2020 graduating class closer to 1100-1200. ??? JMPO
     
  3. brovol

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    Good to know. For the reply .
     
  4. TriService2017

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    I believe the honor board program is called AMP -- Army Mentorship Program??
     
  5. Fourfingers

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    There were 1308 total cadets on R-Day.
     
  6. mom3boys

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    That is not correct.
    AMP is an option that can be offered at an honor board. An example might be a firstie does something resulting in a board. Rather than separating forever, they offer AMP. A mentor is assigned that oversees the "retraining" of the cadet. The cadet enlists and serves, and during this time the mentor gives assignments (writing about honor, integrity, leadership, etc). If the program is completed successfully and mentor and WP agree, cadet returns for a semester or two (whatever is necessary) and graduates with the current first class. It's a rigorous program, but offers an opportunity for someone who needed a late course correction.
     

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