3 year vs 4 year offer

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  1. KEH97

    KEH97 New Member

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    Hi,
    The status on my application page indicates that I am a winner of a "3 Year Advance Designee Scholarship". I am currently a HS senior, looking forward to four years of college. Does the Army offer 3 year scholarships to incoming college freshmen? Is there any chance it could be changed to a "4 Year Advance Designee Scholarship". Insights and advice would be welcome!
     
  2. Jcc123

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    There's no such thing as a "4 year advance designee". There is a possibility that, if you perform well upon arrival at your unit, and if they have the funds, it may get upgraded to a 3.5 year or a 4 year.

    "Perform well" usually means maxing the pt test, making good grades, being involved in the unit and beating out anyone else in line for a scholarship or an upgrade.
     
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  3. KEH97

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    To clarify - the text on the web site notification states "Winner: This applicant has been selected to receive an offer of a 4-year or 3-year Advanced Designee Scholarship to up to 3 schools from the list of schools identified by the applicant in their application. " Also, the GoArmy.com website indicated there are "Army ROTC four-year high school scholarships". So it certainly appears that there are 4 year scholarships available...
     
  4. Dckc88

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    This is true, however, according to your original post it sounds like you were awarded a 3 year advanced designee scholarship, 4 year scholarships (not advanced designee because they start rig hr away) were also awarded at the same time, meaning you were not selected for a 4 year. Congratulations on your 3 year award, that is really exciting. Basically you will have to pay for your freshman year, and then your scholarship will go into effect your sophomore year.
     
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    There is such thing as a four year, but not a four year AD. what does your letter specifically say you received?
     
  6. KEH97

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    The letter hasn't arrive yet, I am going off of the application website's "Selection Status" page.
     
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    It is my understanding as an advance designee you must "validate" your scholarship by earning a 2.5 GPA (3.0 for ROTC classes) and passing the Army PFT your freshman year. Failure to do so could result in losing the scholarship. This information was provided to me by Norwich University.
     
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    There is a small chance it can be upgraded to a 4 or 3 1/2 year if you do really well. Do not count on it. Make your financial plans accordingly.
     
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    This is correct. My son received a 3 year scholarship. He is currently a 4th class Cadet at VMI. We are paying for this year. Scholarship will kick in next year so long as he meets the criteria above.
     
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    Thanks all for the clarification!
     
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    AROTC-dad Just a dad

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    My DS was non contract AROTC to start at a state university. Three months into his freshman/ MS-I semester he received a campus based 3 year AD scholarship.

    Two months later, in January of his spring semester, the cadre bumped him to 3 1/2 years on the scholarship just as school was about to begin.

    So we only ended up paying for one semester's tuition and fees.
     
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    Same boat different stream. DS awarded 3 year ad scholarship. Busted his tail maxed pt test good grades and applied himself to the program. Mom and I are so proud, and happy we only paid for one semester so far. 3 4 year winners that he knows of have dropped out of AROTC so far due to pt test failures and conduct. I feel that the 3yr is a great incentive for your cadet to fully commit and not take for granted what has been awarded to them. Jmho. Congrats!
     
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    AROTC-dad Just a dad

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    Wonderful! The Army loves it because they can "try before they buy." Also agree, DS was surprised how many people struggle with the APFT.

    My DS is extremely happy. Besides AROTC, he is playing intramural soccer, in the boxing club, and only 3 hours from home cooking.
     
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    This has always been the biggest surprise to me. I understand that some may show up and realize that what they thought was being done to standard was not as close as they thought. For some they're able to get om track and pass sometime the first semester.

    What surprises me is how many just never make the mark and drop the program or are asked to drop. My younger son was one of three 4 year winners, by the end of the year he was the only one left, the other two could never pass the APFT, the odd part was that it was the run that kept them from passing. Now that I don't get at all, no form involved with running, you either make the time or you don't. The idea that 4 year winners would show up knowing they can't pass the run, and then not put in the time to improve is a mystery.

    This is one of the big reasons there are more 3 year AD scholarships now then in the past. I like that...."Try before you buy"
     
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    I believe there were several 4 year winners that did not pass the APFT at DS school. I believe they all ended up passing later, but I am not certain. DS is a 3 year so his doesn't kick in until next year. However he knew that he needs to pass for his scholarship to happen. He scored 273 in the fall. Not sure when he takes it this semester. I agree with above, if it is form issues on push up or sit ups that is one thing, but either you can make the run or you need to be running a lot to get your time into the passing zone. You need to show up serious.
     
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    AROTC-dad Just a dad

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    DS says the boxing club makes them run 3 miles a day. THAT has helped his run time!
     
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    My DD is a boxer, she says boxing is second only to swimming for a tough workout!
     
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    Boxing and swimming are both great.

    Son lived in the pool the end of his sophomore year getting ready for CDQC in the summer. He took his record APFT that Spring and scored a 373, he said it was funny to see how many cadets signed up for the Swimming Boot Camp class the next fall.
     
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    Agreed. DS took 3 months of private boxing lessons before heading to school because he knew he had to take boxing. That got him into amazing shape.

    I though the max on APFT was 300??
     
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