5-point veteran status

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  1. Iceberg95

    Iceberg95 New Member

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    Hi. Wanted to get some opinions on an issue that has bugged me.

    I've been applying to some federal jobs and, to this point, while I have always identified myself as a veteran, I haven't claimed 5-point preference. I wasn't in for OEF/OIF, but I have a National Defense Medal, because they continued to award them for the Gulf War until early 1992, i.e., while I was a mid.

    I know that the law (38 USC 1965) explicitly says that midshipmen/cadets are on active duty during their school time, so it seems like I can claim the 5-point preference. However, the DD-214 doesn't reflect Academy time; it only shows time after graduation (it does show the NDM, though).

    So here's my question: Can (or should) I claim the 5-point preference based on being in the Academy in 1991-1992?

    Thanks.
     
  2. NavyHoops

    NavyHoops Moderator

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    I believe you need an Expeditionary or Campaign Medal to get the 5 points. National Defense Medal doesn't qualify. Armed Forces Expeditionary and GWOT Expeditionary are the recent ones that qualify a lot of vets. There are other nuances also. Google search for 5 point preference requirements should give all the details.
     
  3. LineInTheSand

    LineInTheSand USCGA 2006

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    I knew someone who would have been CGA class of 1995... He left after two years (I think he was about to be kicked out), so 1991-1993 or so.

    He got 5-points (never made sense to me, but he certain leveraged it).

    To my knowledge he didn't have an expeditionary medal.
     
  4. Iceberg95

    Iceberg95 New Member

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    • Thanks. This is what the VA website says:

      Q. What determines whether I am eligible to claim 5-point or 10-point preference?
      A. You are a 5-point preference eligible if your active-duty service meets any of the following:
      • 180 or more consecutive days, any part of which occurred during the period beginning September 11, 2001 and ending on a future date prescribed by Presidential proclamation or law as the last date of Operation Iraqi Freedom, OR
      • Between August 2, 1990 and January 2, 1992, OR
        • 180 or more consecutive days, any part of which occurred after January 31, 1955 and before October 15, 1976, OR
        • In a war, campaign or expedition for which a campaign badge has been authorized or between April 28, 1952 and July 1, 1955.
    I see your point about the campaign badge; that does not apply to me. However, the section I put in bold covers time I was in the Academy.
     
  5. Iceberg95

    Iceberg95 New Member

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    Thanks. I'm class of 95 as well, so assuming he wasn't prior enlisted, he would be leveraging the same period I am looking to.

    Appreciate the help.
     
  6. GrilledCheese94

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    Are you a veteran with a DD-214?

    I think that a valid DD-214 would be he deciding factor for Veterans Preference relative to civil service.

    Did you graduate, graduate but not commission, or leave prior to 2-4-7? Not trying to embarrass you, but I think the answer to that question can point you towards legal veterans status.
     
  7. LineInTheSand

    LineInTheSand USCGA 2006

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    I think it was answered. He fell into the time period in the 1990s....
     

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