A Few AFROTC Questions

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  1. SJJTitan

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    I just had a few questions regarding the ROTC scholarship program, and was wondering if you could answer them for me. For one, I was thinking about converting my four year Type 7 scholarship to a 3 year Type 2 scholarship; if I were to do that and then decide that I could not afford an out of state tuition, would it be possible to convert it back to a Type 7 four year, or am I stuck when I make the decision? Also, I was wondering, within the ROTC program, if I am able to fly home military during the holidays or et cetera.

    I have applied and have been accepted by St. Louis University within their College of Engineering, Aviation, and Technology. I plan to primarily major in Flight Science there, and wanted to make sure that major was acceptable for my scholarship, as it only covers technical majors. Also, St. Louis University charges 3,335 dollars per credited hour extra for flight fees. I am wondering if the Air Force picks up the cost of these fees, or if I have to pay for them out of my own pocket or through scholarship.

    I also just wanted to make sure that I am understanding correctly, that if I am accepted into the United States Air Force Academy, and I have already signed my ROTC endorsement letter, that I am not double committing myself. This will put my father's mind at ease.
     
  2. aglages

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    How many "credited hours" does it take to get your private pilot / instrument rating ect?
     
  3. SJJTitan

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    I believe it depends. That's just a flat rate. So I don't really know at the moment.
     
  4. nick4060

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    I'd contact the det at your school ASAP to ensure that major is considered "tech". I changed a Type 7 into a 3-year for out-of-state school and I'm pretty sure in my contract it says that's final. But Id check with your det just to make sure. Also, AFROTC only covers "tuition". If flight fees are considered part of your tuition then it should be covered.

    And yes, if you get into USAFA, you wont be committed to ROTC. Hope all this helps.
     
  5. SJJTitan

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    Well at St. Louis, I'm going to most likely double major in flight science (a kind of aerospace engineering/flying degree, it's their special program) and chemistry; chemistry is for sure tech. I may drop flight science though, cause if I can't get those flight fees covered, there is no way I would be able to pay for them. I emailed the det already, but I probably won't get an answer till after New Years...which kinda stinks, cause my intent letter is due January 5.
     
  6. aglages

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    The reason I asked is because I got my private / IR when I was in my 40s (just something I always wanted to do) and it may be less expensive for you to pursue a pilot rating through your local county airport if St. Louis is going to gouge you with excessive fees. Just something to consider....
     
  7. singaporemom

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    Communicate with your detachment about this, just to be sure. The scholarship officers are well aware that the scholarship candidates will have many options available to them, especially the academy. My oldest son, a couple years back, had an AROTC offer and was waiting for USAFA decision. He told the PMS at the school and the told him...No Problem. Sign the letter of intent to AROTC and if you get the offer to USAFA you may take that and relinquish the AROTC offer. We felt that it was not a problem at all.

    Number one thing to do is to communicate this situation with the detachment at your school of intent. It's always better that everyone knows what's happening. They will be rooting for you to make it into the Academy and grateful that if you don't get in, you will choose their school.
     
  8. nick4060

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    Spot on


    And one more thing. If you're thinking that going through a regimented program to get your private/ratings will make it easier to get a UPT slot, Id say its not worth it. Flight hours do count in your PCSM score but its not that much. I got my private when i was in high school and the first thing my ALO said was that it wont improve my chances much. They'll focus more on your GPA, FT performance, and most importantly your commander's ranking. But if you have the money and you're into it, it cant hurt.
     
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  9. Pima

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    I agree with Nick, the PPL will not help you get a UPT spot, however, it will help on your AFOQT, because some parts of it are flight related, will state that at least for our DS he said it was very simplistic so don't get wrap around your axle over it.

    Having a PPL will indeed help you when you go to UPT because you will already have that experience under your belt when it comes to landing.:eek:

    Have you checked your AFROTC scholarship letter, did it say it was only to be used for technical. Our DS is one of those lucky ones and he is majoring in Govt and Politics. I would suggest to re-read the letter if you are assuming because you declared your intended major to be tech that it is for tech.
     
  10. afarldad

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    I don’t know the answer, but I believe the answer is no you can’t switch back after you’ve converted your scholarship to a three year.

    While that would be nice, unfortunately that isn’t an option.

    The Air Force will not pay for flight time, so you’ll have to cover that cost.

    There shouldn’t be any issue. Most people apply for both, so it’s a common scenario. If I remember correctly, the instructions that came with my son’s scholarship notification talked about this.
     
  11. AROTC Parent

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    Nick4060 and afarldad,

    It is likely ROTC Cadets are eligible for Space Available Travel.

    Check DoD 4515.13-R. NUPOC, CEC, and ROTC students of the Army, Navy, or Air
    Force, receiving financial assistance or enrolled in advanced
    training, in uniform, during authorized absences from the
    school. Travel is authorized within and between the CONUS,
    Alaska, Hawaii, and the U.S. territories.

    It is the lowest priority for travel but if you are near a high travel air force base it is possible. I did it from Omaha to California numerous times over a long Christmas break as an ROTC Cadet. There are some risks of having to purchase last minute flights if you can't get on Space A flights.
     
  12. nick4060

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    That is true. But it only applies to contracted cadets. And again it is space available. So its not really and efficient means of travel unless your school and your home are next to military bases with flights going to one another. I've never met anyone who uses it.
     

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