Academy dismissal?

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  1. executive

    executive New Member

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    Someone told me that it is very easy to get dismissed from USMA - compared to most universities in the U.S. If you get dismissed before your junior year, do you have to pay the academy back for your education? Do you loose all your credits as well as another punishment? If you get dismissed, are you pretty much SOL at life - as in you can't even become an officer through the ROTC program either? Thanks
     
  2. Poyner

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    Before your junior year you will not owe the Army anything and I'm sure you will still have plenty of options in life. But try to avoid getting dismissed.
     
  3. Just_A_Mom

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    Dismissal can happen for - academic reasons, failing the APFT and violations of the honor code.
    If you keep up with your studies and get extra help when needed then you should not be getting dismissed for academic reasons. It does happen.
    If you fail the APFT then you get another go - if you repeatedly fail then it is most likely because you slacked off physically and didn't keep in shape.
    If you are a good citizen then you won't get dismissed for an honor code violation.

    If you are dismissed then you can still seek a commission depending, of course, the reason for the dismissal - i.e. if you broke the law that would be a problem.
    If you decide to leave or are dismissed from the academy in the first two years you still may be able to transfer to a civilian college and be commissioned through ROTC.

    To say that it's "easier" to get dismissed from USMA than other Universities - is true in that there are more standards that you must keep. Physically and morally - not just academically.
    As far as transferring credits - that is up to individual institutions, usually you need to have a 2.0+ in the course - most credits earned at West Point are transferable - even if you are dismissed.
     
  4. momoftwins

    momoftwins Founding Member

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    It's a misconception that cadets can get dismissed for any minor infraction. Certainly there are plenty of reasons and some have been mentioned already. West Point's objective is to develop leaders, not to kick kids out of college. With that said, I do know several former cadets who were dismissed. One was for grades, another for breaking a rule, and another for frat. At least one of these is in a top university, participating in AROTC. Life is not over, just changed.
     
  5. wpmom2011

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    executive:

    I'm curious as to why this is a concern for you. Have you received an appointment?

    Everyone at USMA is there to support you. They want you to succeed. It is very clear from the very beginning what is expected of you and what the rules and regs are. If you knowingly break any, then there will be consequences. It depends on the violation and whether you admitted to it or lied to cover it up that will determine the consequences.

    If you're concerned about academics, there are numerous ways to get AI (additional instruction).

    WP doesn't award an appointment if they don't think the candidate is capable of succeeding.
     
  6. iwanttogotowestpoint

    iwanttogotowestpoint New Member

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    Rhett Butler got dismissed and he had a great life!:redface:
     
  7. Exar Ganis

    Exar Ganis Member

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    Interesting thread. I read some things in a candidate information packet in regards to the honor code. I do remember one kid at SLS who lied to a senior cadet about his knowledge using an M16 rifle. The cadet gave the candidate the rifle, and the candidate had no clue what to do with it, or eject the magazine out. It was amusing to watch this because the cadet approached the candidate and clarified the situation.

    He said "Candidate, I thought you told me you knew how to use the M16 rifle"

    You could tell the candidate was clueless.. his response was "I meant air soft"

    Anyways, it was quite something to see it happen in action.



    At west point, I heard you are also allowed to resign before you are expelled, so if you feel as though you are in trouble, at least they give you the honor to remove yourself vs. having them remove you.
     

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