Academy-Like Colleges

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  1. magtalas192

    magtalas192 Member

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    Ok I know that this is a wierd question to ask, but can anyone give me an order of colleges which appeal the closest to the academy from 1 (being the most like) to 10 (still being academy material, but also college life). Im just trying to decide were to go, because I'm going through the ROTC program, I just want to be mentally, and physically prepared.

    Another question: Where is State University? I see it being posted everywhere on this site, but I don't know where it is located. Is it a good school for ROTC?
     
  2. aglages

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    Many people think that the Senior Military Colleges (SMC) are the most academy "like" in their college experience. The following forums and links should give you some insight into which ones you might want to consider:
    http://www.serviceacademyforums.com/forumdisplay.php?f=31
    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Senior_Military_College

    "State University" is a generic term that refers to your local state supported university. Because you are a resident in the same state that helps support the university you can attend at in-state (IS) tuition rates which are often substantially less than what out-of-state (OOS) students pay. What state do you live in (have residency)?
     
  3. magtalas192

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    Thanks!! :biggrin:
     
  4. Fuji

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    I am not sure what your first question is looking for...

    There are only a handful of uniformed, regimented colleges/academies/universities in the U.S.. From my perspective - they are ALL good educational institutions.

    Reply back - and I'd be pleased to share with you the names of those institutions that I know of - or - if you could clarify your question - I'd be pleased to respond.

    As for your first question - their are many educational institutions that are addressed by "state university."

    Fuji
     
  5. magtalas192

    magtalas192 Member

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    Could you please share some of those Universities.
     
  6. jbowman55

    jbowman55 USNA Parent 2014

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    The senior military colleges are:
    * Norwich University in Vermont (they "invented" ROTC)
    * Virginia Military Institute
    * Virginia Tech
    * The Citadel
    * North Georgia College & State University
    * Texas A&M University

    VMI and the Citadel are 100% military. Norwich is about 3/5ths. NGC&SU has 700 cadets out of 5,500 students. VaTech has 700 cadets out of 30,000 students. Texas A&M has 1,700 cadets out of 45,000 students.

    VaTech and A&M are major state universities with a significant military tradition and presence. VMI and the Citadel are what I would call non-academy academies. Norwich is an interesting cross-breed of a traditional liberal arts school and a military school. I know nothing about NGC&SU.
     
  7. jbowman55

    jbowman55 USNA Parent 2014

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    Interesting notes:

    If you receive a minimum $1000 scholarship from Texas A&M, you will be awarded in-state tuition.

    Norwich waives room and board charges for ROTC scholarships.
     
  8. 11BRAVO

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    The Citadel now has a civilian population.
    VT has more CMH recipients than any other school.
     
  9. 11BRAVO

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    A note in VMI...
    George S. Patton attended VMI for one year before getting an appointment to West Point and transferred in. Patton's grandfather was in the CW and was a Virginia native.
    Chesty Puller, most decorated US Marine in history was also a Virginia native and attended VMI for a year before leaving to enlist during WWI.
    Stonewall Jackson was a professor at VMI until the CW broke out. He is buried in town. R.E. Lee is buried down hill from VMI in Lee Chapel on the grounds of Washington & Lee U.
     
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  10. racefam

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    What is CMH?
    Thanks from a mom who is hoping her son is an AROTC scholarship recipient
    soon.. :smile:
     
  11. bruno

    bruno Retired Staff Member

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    Some additional things about VMI-
    You are required to take 4 years of ROTC although not a commission. (VMI currently commissions about 60% of it's graduates and over the years has produced more Alumni General/Flag officers than any school in the country other than the Service Academies).
    VMI is 100% undergraduate and was ranked 3rd among Public Colleges in the USNews ranking behind USMA and USNA and its Engineering program is listed in the top 10 undergraduate engineering programs in the country and overall is in the top quarter of all undergraduate colleges in this and several other rankings. VMI has had 2 Rhodes Scholars in the last 5 years and 12 total.
    Finally to dispel one last misconception-It has had female graduates for over 10 years now and women are an integral part of the Corps of Cadets in all areas- VMI recently has added it's 7th NCAA Division 1 Women's sport (Water Polo).

    Other schools not listed JBowman's list post above for you to consider if you are interested in military environment in your college experience are the State Maritime Academies which are New York Maritime (SUNY Maritime College), Massachusetts Maritime Academy, Maine Maritime Academy, Texas Maritime Academy (Texas A&M Galveston), California Maritime Academy. These are all State colleges which prepare students for careers in the maritime world- principally but not exclusively as merchant marine officers or as officers in the Navy or Coast Guard. At those schools Cadets will participate in a uniformed regiment of Cadets and participate in annual 2 month training cruises which can lead to a license as a 3rd mate or 3rd Asst Engineer in the US Merchant Marine.
     
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  12. kp2001

    kp2001 USMMA Alumnus

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    CMH: Congressional Medal of Honor
     
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    Congressional Medal of Honor?
     
  14. btexino

    btexino CidGrad/VMIdad

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    Yes, The Citadel does have a “civilian population” on campus. But, to simply say that without further explanation can be misleading to someone who is trying to get information on the college. So, here’s “the rest of the story.”

    For quite some time The Citadel has had evening master’s degree programs and now several undergraduate degree programs serving the greater Charleston metropolitan area. However, the operative word here is “evening.” These civilian students are in the academic buildings in the evening when cadets are either in the barracks or at the library. Therefore, they don’t come into regular contact with cadets. With such an arrangement, The Citadel is not in the same mode as Texas A&M, Virginia Tech, Norwich, and North Georgia.

    On the other hand, The Citadel has about 80 or so civilian (veteran) students who attend class with the 2,000+ cadets in the corps. These ~80 students are former cadets who left school early to serve in the Armed Forces and have decided to return to campus to complete their degree. They have the choice of either becoming cadets once again or retaining their civilian status. This special program is an absolutely great way to honor some of the men and women who have served our great country.

    So, magtalas192, there you have it. For all practical purposes, The Citadel is still pretty much “100% military” for its cadets, as jbowman 55 has said. Hope this helps.
     
  15. magtalas192

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    Yes this All helps, Thanks Alot!!!
     
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    The medal is frequently called the Congressional Medal of Honor, stemming from its award by the Department of Defense "in the name of Congress" though the official and correct title is "Medal of Honor".
     
  17. 11BRAVO

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    wikipedia my man
     
  18. Subdude

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    Yes, the text is from Wikipedia...they did a nice job saying what I wanted to say, which is that the correct name of the decoration does not include the word "Congressional" :smile:
     

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