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  1. kjc_25

    kjc_25 Member

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    I am applying for the class of 2020 and am wondering if anyone could tell me if these scores are competitive enough.

    Reading:33
    English:35
    Math:29
    Science:29
    Thanks so much!
     
  2. yrangd

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    I have heard that they would like high scores on math and science. Don't take my word on it though - I am an applicant for 2020 as well. You're reading/ English scores look solid.
     
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    look at the academy brochure. It gives the averages for everything academy appointee related. Including the average act, sat, gpa, CFA, etc. scores. I even have a link in my signature block. Then, you'll know for yourself if your scores are "Competitive" or not.
     
  4. fencersmother

    fencersmother Founding Member

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    If you will please take some time to read those darn stickies, you may see that "competitive enough" is not something we can answer here. Competitive enough for what? Do you live in a district where you are likely to be the ONLY applicant? Do you live in Northern Virginia? in Dallas? in some other hyper-competitive state? Are you competing with 2 people or 340?

    You see where I am going.

    Yes, your 35 English is commendable. Now, YOU go look up the "average" ACT scores, and come back and tell us if you think you have room for improvement. Methinks you'll find something that you can improve.
     
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  5. RogersCO'19

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    Here is something that was told to me on the forums when applying and I took it to heart...
    "Unless you have a 36 in every ACT sect and an 800 (I believe is the max for SAT) than you can still keep testing."
    Now don't take that as your scores are low and you need to test, no those are good scores, my scores were lower and I got in. I also took the ACT four times and only stopped at four because I was accepted. They are good scores so it is up to you. Standards change every year and a lot more than these scores go into deeming whether you are competitive. Honestly, you will never know unless you apply and even when you apply, you will never know if you were "good enough" until the games end and you are accepted. I drove myself crazy asking people on here what they thought about my scores and if they thought I would get it but all they can share is guidance and opinions(Which is really helpful and I love it), But It is up to YOU to take the risk and go for it and to have faith in yourself so that you don't over consume yourself with stressing.
     
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  6. kjc_25

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    Thanks everyone for the advice,I am stressing out way too much about it honestly. I live in Colorado Springs and it is very competitive. I will obviously keep taking it until I can't anymore though! All I can do is my best and let the chips fall where they may but it is so hard not to compare myself and overanalyze since I want it so badly. :)
     
  7. Pima

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    Make sure you have plan B in place...aka AFROTC scholarship.

    CO is competitive, including the MoC nominations.

    AFROTC is national....however, AFROTC does not use super like USAFA, it is best sitting.

    You want to have that plan B in place even if you get an appointment. It is a controversial topic, but many will hold onto the scholarship until I Day, especially if they play spring sports.
    ~~ Use the search function to see the threads regarding this aspect.

    FYI, if I am correct your composite is 31. Is that best sitting or superscore? Nationally, as a tech major for AFROTC scholarship it would place you as competitive for a type 1 or 2 scholarship.

    Not trying to burst any bubble. Just saying... for as long as you want to go down the military path, it will always be have plan A, but make sure you work on B-Z too.
    ~ You can get an appointment Xmas Eve. However, June 21st you contract Mono...iows, can't report for I Day. You will be a medical turnback before you even show up. That AFROTC scholarship in hand means you can go to plan B and use the scholarship.
    ~ You may want to be a pilot. DoDMERB exam is just to clear you medically to serve, it doesn't mean you are cleared to go rated...that happens much later...think 1 year out. Rated is an FAA exam. They can come back and say...No GO for pilot, but GO for RPA/CSO/ABM. They can say NO GO, but cleared for non-rated. Just because you aren't q'd rated does not equate to being DQd for non-rated.

    Food for thought before you accept anything especially if you are applying to every SA and ROTC scholarship option.
    ~ SAs are 4 years, but it is not 24/7/365 days. AD in any branch is 24/7/365.

    An appointment is great! Not so much when they send you to Korea or Minot while you still owe them back time.
     
  8. kjc_25

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    Yes, 31 is composite. And yes I am applying for a ROTC scholarship.
    I agree that it is important to have backup plans in place, there are so many different paths and it seems like almost everyone I have talked to has gone through a different process to reach an end goal. I am planning to reapply to the academy until I am too old if I don't get accepted the first time, but would be equally happy with a ROTC scholarship or just enlisting.
    And yes I agree that all those things are worth considering before accepting an appointment or scholarship.
    Thank you for your advice!
     
  9. flieger83

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    If I were your ALO, I would have two questions for you:

    1. Your scores are very admirable; and the scores over 30 are sweet! Do you believe that you can now raise, with a study plan (that means a daily review, practice, etc.) the MATH score above 30?
    Reading:33
    English:35
    Math:29
    Science:29

    2. Are you satisfied with these scores such that you're comfortable with not trying again and pressing ahead with the rest of the application process?

    If your answer is "No" and "Yes" then you've answered your own question and should press on!!! If on the other hand you have ANY doubt as to question #1 or question #2...then I would say you have absolutely nothing to lose continuing to test, and study, and study, and...

    While it may be a pain, and the "not knowing" is miserable...if in the end, you have this nice letter congratulating you and offering you an appointment...

    How much did it hurt?

    Steve
    USAFA ALO
    USAFA '83
     
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