Active Duty Chances?

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  1. cadetjohnson

    cadetjohnson Member

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    So I'm done with LDAC now. My GPA is 3.55 my PT score was 270-Fall, 275-Spring, and 285-LDAC. I got an overall S at LDAC with only 2 dimensional Es(I bombed it bad). I have CULP as well. How do my chances look for getting active duty quartermaster? I also plan to use two different ADSOs in my packet...
     
  2. Jcleppe

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    Based on past years I would think your chances of AD are very high. Branching Quartermaster should almost be a lock. Your PMS will go over everything during your Branch briefing, I think your in pretty good shape.

    My guess is that you won't need an ADSO for AD Quartermaster.
     
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    I thought I'd be good too based on past results but with the changes in the OML model this year and the unexpected weak S I ended up with I've gotten a little worried.
     
  4. Jcleppe

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    Quartermaster is not a branch that fills quickly, go ahead and use the ADSO, if you are able to branch without the ADSO then it won't be used.

    I assume Quartermaster will be your first choice, what is your second and third choice?
     
  5. goaliedad

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    Based upon your past thread, I think your cadre will give you a much clearer view of your "chances" for QM (my guess is 100% without ADSO).

    I know you were disappointed with your LDAC score, but your GPA and BN rank would be enough to keep you in the upper half in most years. I can't imagine not making the cut this year. And QM has always been a gimme unless you are in the bottom 10%.

    Best of luck and let us know what your cadre tells you.
     
  6. Aglahad

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    I wouldn't say that is a bombed score. Congrats you will get AD and most likely QM....

    My year I had probably a little better PT scores, overall S with 5 dimensional Es (2 overall E evaluations out of 6), top 10 PMS rating, 0 ROTC extracurrics and 3.5ish GPA and I was in the 30th percentile which is easily AD.
     
  7. mariner116

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    What are dimensional scores? How do they relate to overall LDAC score?
     
  8. Aglahad

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    17 leadership dimensions. Getting overalls Es in them can make a strong or average overall S which results in a better camp score.
     
  9. Aglahad

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    What did you ADSO for?
     
  10. Jcleppe

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    Are there still 17 dimensional E's now that LDAC has reduced the number of overall E's from 6 to 4?

    I remember that prior to this year if you received 3ea E's and 3ea S's you needed at least 9 dimensional E's to receive an Overall E.
     
  11. MabryPsyD

    MabryPsyD Dr. G.

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    I'm just shocked he's using 2 ADSOs for QM. When did QM become hard to branch?
     
  12. Jcleppe

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    I'm hoping the ADSO's are for different branches other then QM.

    Could be he is using the ADSO for his Post.
     
  13. NorwichDad

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    I agree
     
  14. cadetjohnson

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    I'm going to adso for the student loan repayment and post assignment. I had higher expectations of myself at LDAC but I guess I did alright.
     
  15. Jcleppe

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    Think hard about adding 3 years to your service obligation just for your first duty station. Add that to the ADSO for the SLRP and your up close to 9 plus years.

    What duty station are you hoping to get.
     
  16. goaliedad

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    You passed and have plenty of other OML points (from your GPA and unit rank) to get AD. Once you commission, the slate is clean again, so you can put your disappoint behind you. Your post ADSO is a crapshoot (of course depending upon location). Since you are familiar with military life and wish to server a long time, taking the loan repayment is a good move.

    Congratulations.
     
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    You were in the same accessions briefing I was in, yes? If so, the answer should be clear as daylight.
     
  18. cadetjohnson

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    I'd like to try Germany. The years of service added on don't bother me at all. I've been in the Guard for 5 years and decided I wanted to make a full time career out of the Army so I joined ROTC. I plan on knocking out the full 20 and maybe more if I'm able!
     
  19. Aglahad

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    I don't think the number of dimensions has changed as blue cards and yellows card for ROTC evaluations are the exact same. As for the current criteria for overall E's and number of dimensions needed for an overall E now (with the change from 6 to 4) I do not know.

    Regarding ADSO:

    Also an ADSO won't be eaten up if the cadet can receive the branch according to the basic OML. While it would be a waste of an ADSO for branch it won't tack on more years.
     
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  20. Aglahad

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    Post is probably one of the worst choices for ADSO and time in the NG is not AD, so racking up years of service before hitting AD service time isn't probably the smartest idea but hey its your career.

    Also, as you have probably heard by now the Army is cutting 12 brigades (2 of those brigades were in Germany 170th and 172nd which have already been cut). Germany's garrison is just going to get smaller and smaller. I know a 2LT who post-ADSO for Hawaii, got deployed and then reassigned to another post. He spent a total of 8 months in Hawaii. My point is Germany may be an option later in your career but ADSO right now most likely wouldn't be the prudent decision.

    Ask the majority of ROTC cadets (even prior service guard guys) if the Army will be a career and 80-90% will say yes, the actual number who do 20 years is rather small.

    SLRP is a good idea though but with x2 ADSO I would be wary.
     

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