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  1. Hockey8797

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    Hey Guys, I am currently applying to the AROTC, AFROTC, and NROTC hopefully as fall backs to the Service Academies, but obviously I would be very grateful to get any of the opportunities to serve our country. I recently took the medical exam where I measured in as between 6'1 and 6'2 but rounded down to 6'1 and 205 pounds. I know that there is a weight requirement that we must pass especially if you want to compete for an active duty spot. My scores for the fitness test were 53 pushups, 49 sit-ups and a 5:47 mile. I qualified for all of the Service Academies, but would I not qualify to compete for an Active Duty spot through ROTC since I would be "overweight" for some of the branches? I really want to serve as an Active Duty officer and would be really disappointed if I didn't get the chance, but I did pass for all of the Service Academies which has me sort of confused. Thanks!
     
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    If it's muscle weight then there are waivers for that.
     
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    If you were overweight for the program you were enrolled in at some point yo will be dropped from it. You wold probably have an opportunity to reduce your weight first. It's more than simply being overweight. If you were overweight by the scale they would then try taping to determine if you're actually OK. If you were dropped after your freshman year, you would probably need to repay the scholarship money you have received to date. There have been stories here of people being dropped just prior to commissioning who had to repay $400,000+.

    It's your OML in the program that determines if you will go active duty.
     
  4. Sledge

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    A 5:47 mile is fast. If that info is true, I don't think you'll have a tape test problem.

    Work on your push-ups and sit-ups.

    My DS is a yuk at USMA - 5'10" - 200 lbs. Solid. Legs like tree trunks. Squats 500. Decent APFT. No problems.
     
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    I did a very quick check on google and surprisingly (or not), each branch has its own height/ weight charts. Assuming I hit the current regs from each branch a male under age 21 who stands 6'1" (73 inches) has the maximum weight limit as follows: Navy (206 lbs); Marines (208 lbs); Army (200 lbs) and Air Force (208 lbs).

    If you are overweight per the above tables, it will trigger a taping process to measure body fat. This is a notoriously inaccurate test based on who conducts it and how they interpret the regulations.

    Far better to drop weight now rather than rely on the tape test.
     
  6. Hockey8797

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    Well I am just applying for the scholarship at this point but in the future it would be up to the OML's discretion for active duty? Would they do body fat percentage during the program? I only ask because I am in pretty good shape but I usually sit around 200lbs which puts me right on the line or even a bit over for active duty. Thanks for the quick reply!
     
  7. Hockey8797

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    At the medical exam I didn't get tape tested even though I would be over the weight limit for Army. We'll see as the process goes on. I was wondering what you think good scores are for ROTC physical test? It's only a minute for pushups and sit-ups so I think my sit-ups could definitely improve and hopefully I'll be able to get my pushups to one per second but I don't see how it's possible for anyone to get more than 60 well done pushups in a minute. He seems a lot like me. Fourteen years of hockey got my Squat up to 500 pounds and my bench up to 275 for reps. Thanks!
     
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    Thank You! I am trying to get down to 195 so I wouldn't have any problems whatsoever when it comes to weight.
     
  9. USMCGrunt

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    Hockey: for NROTC you will be weighed each PFT which is officially once per semester but usually there is a practice one conducted each semester also.
     
  10. AROTC-dad

    AROTC-dad Just a dad

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    OP: "Well I am just applying for the scholarship at this point but in the future it would be up to the OML's discretion for active duty? Would they do body fat percentage during the program? I only ask because I am in pretty good shape but I usually sit around 200lbs which puts me right on the line or even a bit over for active duty. Thanks for the quick reply!"

    OML is not a person.
    OML is order of merit list.

    http://www.army.mil/article/103207/Major_changes_ahead_for_ROTC_order_of_merit__branching_processes/
     
  11. Sledge

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    My bad. I was thinking the 2:00 they get for the APFT. 53 and 49 is pretty good for 1:00.

    My anonymous internet opinion: You're in shape and won't have problems. Don't sweat it (literally or figuratively) too much.
     
  12. Hockey8797

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    Oh Jeeze I knew that too. Do they use the OML for active duty when it gets towards the end of the program too?
     
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    Yes, OML is used for determining branching and active/reserve component. It is important to keep in mind that four years from now, the needs of the service may be substantially different, but it is always the needs of the army that dictate the demand for AD officers.

    Also note that the army adjusts its OML criteria every few years....again based on the needs of the army.

    One more thing, if you want a MAXIMUM opportunity for Army AD (besides graduating from USMA or being #1 on the OML in the country), you can graduate from a senior military college. So long as the PMS (professor of military science) okays it, US law guarantees US Army active duty to an SMC graduate.

    Branching
    http://www.serviceacademyforums.com...s-rotc-cadet-receive-designated-branch.26435/

    AD/Reserves:
    http://www.serviceacademyforums.com/index.php?threads/chances-of-active-duty.12215/

    Senior Military Colleges:
    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/United_States_Senior_Military_College
     
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  14. Hockey8797

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    Thanks for all the info! Not currently looking at any of the senior military colleges but I'll definitely look into it!
     
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