Admissions notifications

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  1. usnadad10

    usnadad10 Member

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    As I understand it the admissions board meets on Thursday. After that, does anyone know the process? Do they call the MOCs to notify them so they can call the appointees? Etc? Any thoughts on timelines or process


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  2. usnabgo08

    usnabgo08 USNA 2008/BGO

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    I would presume that within a few days of a decision to offer a candidate an appointment, the MOC is notified.
    Turndown letters (aka TWEs) are starting to go out and will continue through mid-April.
     
  3. PoppapH

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    I am surprised they wouldn't wait until the jan 24 SATs reported out. DS jumped 60 points. Timidly watching the mailbox...


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    usnabgo08 USNA 2008/BGO

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    PoppapH, turndown letters are starting to go out...doesn't mean they are all going out. It will be done in a phased type of manner as slates are reviewed and Admissions has a better idea on how many are accepting appointments.
     
  5. tle

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    I received an LOA (contingent on the nomination) in October. My nomination was uploaded last Monday( Feb2), yet I never received an email or phone call from my MOC's office. When can I expect the BFE to come in?


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  6. usna1985

    usna1985 USNA Alumnus

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    It typically takes about a week or so for USNA to process a nom +LOA into an appointment. Not all MOCs call or email -- they are offered the opportunity as a courtesy. They get about a week to do so and, regardless of whether they do or don't, the BFE is mailed about a week after the MOC is notified. So, I would expect it next week.
     
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    Thank you very much!! It turns out I actually received my BFE today :)


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  8. PoppapH

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    Right. But not knowing how DS stacks up academically (he is at least 2Q), makes an extra 60 points mean a great deal. If the SAT scores being sent IN pass a TWE going OUT, that would be a bummer.


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  9. Tds411

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    How many candidates do they approximately get through and make a decision for every time they meet?
     
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    Does admissions board only meet one day a week?
     
  11. usnabgo08

    usnabgo08 USNA 2008/BGO

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    As long as your DS puts the score code in, USNA will receive a batch of them on a certain date (which I am sure USNA knows) and competitive candidates are unlikely to get TWEs at this point. Keep in mind, the scholastic qualification is made up of portions outside academics -- the Admissions Board DOES NOT determine academic qualification...it is scholastic qualification. A candidate who does well academically doesn't automatically receive an appointment. If the Admissions Board already determined that additional testing scores (regardless of increase) would not help at this point, then they don't need to wait until the new ones come in.

    Bottom line, you can't lose sleep over what you can't control.
     
  12. Spud

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    During our BGO training I overheard a conversation between an admissions person and one of the trainees that the Admissions Board determines if a candidate is 3Qed or not and then sends that list (of around 4000) to the Admissions OFFICE who actually do the picking of the appointees. Since it was a scrap of a conversation I heard and I cannot remember any of the participants, I am reluctant to say that is ultimate gouge but perhaps one of the mods know if that is true. It really doesn't change the fact that at some time the candidate is picked by somebody but it does clarify just who does it.
     
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    usnabgo08 USNA 2008/BGO

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    Spud, this is also my understanding.
     
  14. CAmidparent

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    So the Admissions Board (the ones who sit around the table to discuss each candidate and then vote "yes" or "no") are simply determining if the candidate is qualified? Wow, I did not know that. I thought that is where the determination is made to offer an appointment. Who then in the Admissions office actually decides to offer an appointment? Is it one person, a group of people?? Is it based on making sure the class profile comes out looking good (proper number of females, minorities, etc.)? And is there a vote?
     
  15. MJP

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    CAmid, probably something like that. DS received a letter regarding USNA being notified that he applied for a VP nomination. That letter came from the office of the Director of Nominations and Appointments. So yes, there is a specific office that deals with appointments.

    From what I've read, each candidate is assigned a WCS by AB using the magical algorithm, and then racked and stacked based on those scores. Additional better SAT scores, awards, etc. can all add extra points to an otherwise qualified candidates WCS.

    Admin Board can assign some additional points based on what the needs of the class are(diversity) or a particular candidate's circumstances, so if Admin board wanted to be sure that candidate was likely to be included in class, they could assign say an extra 7000 points to that candidate's WCS ranking them higher on the list and maybe getting them in.

    I like to think of it like a giant golf tournament with a nomination being the invitation to play in the tournament.

    If Nominated, then AB determines if qualified and assigns the WCS, then it's really trying to make the "cut" earning that appointment and playing in the 4 year long final round ...only our "players" don't know what the "cut" will be....or what they are currently shooting.

    Nominated LOA recipients know they make it to final day assuming they don't get DQ'd along the way by the tournament officials.

    I'd be interested to know if any midshipmen actually found out their WCS once admitted-or if anyone even cared once admitted.
     
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  16. Spud

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    The WCS is a little overrated. It is important but is not the ultimate decider. Not only do you have candidates with very unquantifiable characteristics in their background (such as no sports but a foreman on a sheet rock crew) that the Navy wants but candidates are also broken out by State and the competition there is very localized (compare candidate numbers of California to Wyoming). Now throw in a football player with a phenomenal arm and WCS is a factor but not the only one.
     
  17. MJP

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    Would you equate that to handicapping in my golf tourney analogy?
     

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