AF introduces Total Force Commissioning Process

Thank you! Our son will be a 2016 grad due to 5 year Engineering major. I was just wondering what the % weighting is now, as compared to past years. My understanding is that the weightings have changed significantly. Just curious!
 
Reo,

Curiosity, can you tell me where you stand as a poster...cadet, PMS?

I am not trying to start a flaming war, but I am curious. If PMS help the posters out, if a candidate/cadet than let them know it.

vamom,

Go to www.baseops.net forums and in the ROTC forum you will find the breakdown for the rated selection.

My old brain doesn't remember the breakdown specifically, but I think I got it right.

Non-rated is a different ball of wax, especially for your DS that is engineering at an SMC.

For others
PCSM is for cadets wanting to go rated. It is a scoring system. TBAS is a test that cadets take which are a % of the PCSM, think of it as the AFOQT for rated. Flight hours are also placed into the equation.No flight hours and you will be dinged. PPL and you are sitting pretty.
~ If you don't go rated than none of those acronyms matter. If you go rated, than you already know what they mean.
 
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I am not a PMS nor do I think that matters when telling someone something directly out of the commissioning regulation for afrotc... Just like I won't tell someone something about %s if I don't know the answer.
 
But you have Reo given advice regarding chances without understanding the process.

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Reoin05 said:
Most will have been through the FC1 by then.
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The reality is the FAA FC1 physical currently is not given until the summer of the rising 400 year for any cadet selected for rated.

You did not know according to post 59 how the selection process went for rated. The answer is simple and even a 100 knows how it works because drop day at the det. for rated or non-rated is huge. They make a big thing out of it. Cadets are usually called out in front of the entire corps.
Reoin05 said:
Does anyone know when cadets who are rated are assigned an AFSC? And are rated apart of the cut back board?
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ANSWER:YEP the day it drops. You are not given you are going rated and TBD later. You are told you are going Pilot, CSO, ABM or RPA on the day they DROP the results

I am not trying to cut you out at your knees, but for many posters this is frightening, and to post guidance, such as,
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Reoin05 said:
I am pretty sure anyone who is offered it is involved, only missiles is exempt.
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Is totally wrong IMPO since, according to post 59 you don't even have the terminology correct. Rated is an AFSC. Pilot, has an AFSC code, CSO has a code, ABM has a code, and RPA has a code. The minute they are picked up on a rated board they have an AFSC code.

Again, I am trying to be kind, but please understand lurkers or new posters will take your posts to heart.

I am the first to eat crow, and admit I am wrong, but I also admit my background. This is too serious to play the I googled the reg and here it is, without understanding the fine print matters too.

I.E. AFOQT ly could be substituted with the ACT/SAT

PCSM 2.0 is different than the PCSM for 13.

FC1 is different than an FC1A

I could go on and on.

Again,I mean no harsh feelings or positions. I am just saying when you post... be honest, don't skirt...not a PMS, but won't answer the question either
~~~ FWIW for posters we read between the lines...you are not a cadet either

We need honesty, guidance and direction for every poster, and that is truly what is important, nothing more and nothing less.
 
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1st. The reality is the FAA FC1 physical currently is not given until the summer of the rising 400 year for any cadet selected for rated.

The total force reduction board will meet late this year, to include all of the 300 cadets rising to 400, rated are included, and are not exempt as it clearly states, Commander also commented on this and said everyone is included, unless you have missiles AFSC (rated or not). If you are rated and commissioning FY15 (which includes this board) then you most likely gone to your physicals as they started in early summer and continue if you cannot make the dates into the year. So it is most likely that you will have completed it by the reduction board....

So the reality is that you will and do have your FC physical done and are still going to the reduction board per current information provided.

2. Rated AFSC's given and exempt?
- I am not trying to cut you out at your knees, but for many posters this is frightening, and to post guidance, such as, post 82

See above, the regulation, not advice, was unclear, and it was clarified they are all included.

The question was WHEN are AFSC's given to rated not do they have them, to find out if they will be in fact included in the new reduction board, again see above for the information that has been passed down so far.

However, I will no longer take part in the attempt for a flame war. There is no need to include any of that, especially when the advice given is correct.
 
1. My DS is a 12 grad, that winged this past April....trust me I know when the FC1 is given.

~ Sorry if that sounds crass or rude, but my DS was not my 1st time in this rodeo...DH was 26 years ago. DH is Bullet on this site. He flew fighters for 21 years.

~ I agree that rated are not safe, but that still leaves us with your question of when do the AFSCs come out for rated, and not understanding that they get their AFSC when they are told they are going 1 of the 4 rated options.
~~ IMPO Pilot and RPA are safer than CSO and ABM due to airlines hiring at a higher rate now, and RPA becoming a bigger player in the AF mission.

2. The rising rated 400s have their AFSCs. Thus for 15 they are already set. 16s are the ones that the question arises, which historically has been Feb/Mar for rated boards. However, in this announcement 16s are safe! HQ AFROTC may decide to select next fall when they are 400s for the rated board or keep it the same.
~ See my post regarding the medical and TS clearance, plus the impact on supplemental boards.

I am sorry if I offended, but I stand behind my posts and wonder how far in this system you are because I see it as a tunnel vision for you. You did not read IMPO vamom's question.
~She was not asking about rated and the new PCSM 2.0, she was asking the OML system for her DS at an SMC going tech. He is an engineer major.
~ OBTW if you are in AFROTC you should already know when the rated board meets and releases because traditionally they make a HUGE deal out of it at every detachment....see threads here on this site @ March and posters here will state % picked up. I believe there is even a link to ERAUs drop ceremony for rated. DS was at the best det in the nation for 12, and they made it a huge deal...called out during LLAB. They did the same for non-rated in October. AFSC selection is a moment in the sun.
 
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"My Commander says it's all going to be one big board, ma'm. No separation between tech/nontech, rated/nonrated, scholarship, etc." If I am understanding this quote from SoleTrain earlier in this thread, there will be only one AFSC Board for Y16 for rated and non rated? Has any other cadets heard of this and when will the AFSC's be awarded, end of 300 year or early 400 year? Wonder if they will find out about selection to Guard/Reserve/Active Duty at this time also?
 
I am not sure I understand your question.

Are you asking if they will have a RIF for AFROTC and when that board will meet?
 
conceredcitizen said:
Does anyone know when the AFROTC total force commissioning active duty board will meet?
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I don't know when it's supposed to meet, but my CC said at the time when it was announced that results were expected before 1 November. Probably (given the recent trends) that will be later...
 
According to the paperwork my son received in July, Cadet Active Component Allocation Process (CACAP) was suppose to occur the week of 9/22 for cadets commissioning FY15 with results released w/o 10/27. Again that was guidance distributed in July...it may have changed.
 
Thanks all for the responses! Got a round about time frame :). Will update if I hear any more specifics.

Luck to all!
 
Just got news from my detachment commander that the Involuntary Release for fiscal year 2015 was canceled. I guess enough people took the out voluntarily. Good news for everyone wanting to go active duty!
 
Yeah I just heard the same thing! All the 400s are really relieved. Apparently they were able to cut enough voluntarily.
 
From what my cadre has said, this will probably not happen for the net few years. This is because any reductions would just be reflected by the SFT acceptance percentage. However, anything can happen.
 
I agree that it probably will end with this year group due to the fact that the SFT reductions put their numbers back in skew. It was the year groups where 90% got SFT that were put on the chopping block.
 
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