AF officer troubles

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  1. aseanag

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  2. LineInTheSand

    LineInTheSand USCGA 2006

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    Air Force hater! :wink:
     
  3. Pima

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    It appears that Lt. Gen. James Kowalski, commander of Air Force Global Strike Command, is cleaning house.

    Maj. Gen. Michael Carey was removed from command of the 20th Air Force last Friday.

    I wonder how long it will be before the AF has to implement stop/loss for missile AFSCs, if it hasn't occurred already. By my account that is 22 officers booted from a very small community gone in less than 6 months. I don't know how many that graduate from training every yr., but it has to be impacting the entire community in many ways.
     
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    You know LITS, I thought about doing that but then said "Naaahhh". :biggrin:
     
  5. aseanag

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    lol!
    But on a serious note, there seems to be problems among all of our military branches.
     
  6. LineInTheSand

    LineInTheSand USCGA 2006

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    Every branch has its issues, agreed. Some issues make the headlines, many others don't. The Coast Guard benefits and suffers from having missions that aren't as sexy. Fisheries enforcement might interest Maine, but Montana probably won't care. Migrant interdiction might be a hot-button item in Florida, but who really cares in Iowa?

    Nukes? That will usually turn heads no matter where you are.
     
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    This isn't really a surprise is it? There may be an expectation of higher standards but we are dealing with imperfect people with all the failings you find anywhere else.

    Pick any profession and you will find headline-ready failings. Human nature.

    Regarding our military, we should expect higher standards even though we won't necessarily achieve them. We should hold people accountable and punish them when caught. Trust, expect, verify, inspect... and then reward or punish as appropriate.
     
  8. Pima

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    Indeed it is a problem in the branches, but it is appears more noticeable the last 2 weeks regarding the Nukes in our military.

    http://www.cbsnews.com/8301-505267_...-fired-from-nuclear-post-amid-gambling-probe/

    Off topic a bit, but from the same link:
    I laughed at his punishment, and thought to myself...great, and the military wonders why people think the Pentagon is broken....plus, let's send the guy with a gambling addiction to an area that has casinos within an hr or two by car (can you say Atlantic City and MD?)

    What do you think the punishment would have been for an O4 with 12 yrs in? He will come to DC, spend whatever time is required, and retire with 75% pay. Not a bad paycheck. Of course, there is the question of security clearance issues for his 2nd career, but I am sure he can survive on the Navy retirement pay of a 2 star without feeling too much financial pain.
     
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  9. sprog

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    You aren't supposed to swing the door if the other crew member is in the rack. They teach you this in training, and it's been the rule for as long as there have been ICBMs.

    There really was no chance of an unauthorized launch with this, though, or even for an unauthorized person to get near the LCC. It was a screw-up, yes, but I have confidence that the missile force will continue to provide functional deterrence (as it has for 50 years). The people that messed-up were dealt with, and I'm sure they are learning their lesson (harshly, in some cases). I'm also pretty sure that no one else is going to make that mistake again for a while.

    -I was a MCCC for the Minuteman III at Minot about 10 years ago.
     
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    I am getting tired of seeing the ICBM wings in the news for all the wrong reasons.

    I did the job myself, and to put it mildly, it just really isn't the sexiest job available for an AF officer. If the mission is done correctly, no one knows or cares. I think a lot of people are surprised that this mission is still performed.

    I know, I know...suck it up and do your duty. I'd say that is the attitude of the vast majority of missile crew members. As I said, though, if everyone does their job correctly, no one notices. Minuteman has been on alert since the early 1960s, and has a pretty good track record as a deterrent.

    When there is a screw-up...it's front page news.
     
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    You were there!:eek:
     
  12. LineInTheSand

    LineInTheSand USCGA 2006

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    HAHAHAHA!
     
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    Never failed an inspection when I was there; in fact, got several excellent/outstanding results and my Squadron was named best in 20th AF.

    But you're right, it's all my fault. :shake:
     
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