AF ROTC Enrollment Allocation Results

I want to correct my earlier post re: the new stipend amounts.
The below will be effective Oct 1 2013

AS100: Current Monthly Rate: $300.00 New Monthly Rate: $250.00
AS200: Current Monthly Rate: $350.00 New Monthly Rate: $300.00
AS300: Current Monthly Rate: $450.00 New Monthly Rate: $350.00
AS400: Current Monthly Rate: $500.00 New Monthly Rate: $400.00
AS100/200 difference is $50.00 per month; AS300/400 difference is $100.00 per month
 
AS400: Current Monthly Rate: $500.00 New Monthly Rate: $400.00
Note that the only class year making less next year than they are currently is the AS400. Congrats rising seniors!:cool:
 
Note that the only class year making less next year than they are currently is the AS400. Congrats rising seniors!:cool:

Thanks, I'm really excited to get paid $50 less! Whatever it takes to help the Air Force meet their budget requirements. /sarcasm
 
I know this new stipend chart is accurate for AFROTC. Does it apply to ALL ROTC scholarship cadets or is this just AFROTC? I hope that this is not a stupid question. If so, please be kind and just answer. ;)
 
I know this new stipend chart is accurate for AFROTC. Does it apply to ALL ROTC scholarship cadets or is this just AFROTC? I hope that this is not a stupid question. If so, please be kind and just answer. ;)

AROTC and NROTC have not had announced any reduction in Stipends...as of yet.

I read the reduction in stipend for AFROTC was in the works before the Sequestration happened, I believe this was decided before the new year.
 
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Over the course of my 10-year career, I have dealt with both troops and parents of said troops that were somehow caught off guard when it came time for deployment. Whenever the question comes up lately, it strikes a sensitive nerve in me that screams "service before self!" We are a completely voluntary military force these days. If you want to be a member of our military, you have to be willing to be a participant in executing orders that are given to protect and uphold our great nation's interests, whether they be overseas or stateside.

The 'drunk' comment stemmed from how poorly written and misplaced the originating comment was.

So...how about those EA's?

I really don't mean to beat a dead horse but, your profile says your AFROTC Class of 2013, was your 10 year career prior enlisted? Just curious.

Sorry to break back off topic.
 
AROTC and NROTC have not had announced any reduction in Stipends...as of yet.

I read the reduction in stipend for AFROTC was in the works before the Sequestration happened, I believe this was decided before the new year.

Thank you for your reply!
 
When my DS received his Type 7 scholarship offer last month, there was a sheet specifically stating that the Freshman year monthly stipend was $250. No mention of the following year's decreases, however.
 
Where did yyou read this?

The AFROTC website listed the stipends at the reduced rate prior to the 1st of the year, when I looked in December the rates were listed at the reduced rates.

Some who were awarded scholarships from AFROTC in the Fall said their letters listed the stipends at the reduced rate.

Never actually saw an official statement from the AF stating the stipends would be reduced, though that doesn't come as a surprise.
 
AROTC and NROTC have not had announced any reduction in Stipends...as of yet.

I read the reduction in stipend for AFROTC was in the works before the Sequestration happened, I believe this was decided before the new year.

The new AFROTC stipend payments now match the NROTC stipend payments. AROTC stipend matches the old AFROTC stipend. If I had to guess Army is going to reduce theirs to match and Navy will make no changes.... just guessing though based on absolutely no evidence whatsoever. I'm scratching my head wondering why there was ever a difference between them. :confused:
 
In all reality though, who cares if your stipend gets lowered. Lots of Cadets are upset about it which is silly. Cadets on scholarships are getting most of if not all of their college paid for anyways, and for those not on scholarship but are getting stipends for completing FT it's just $100. Cadets receiving a stipend should consider themselves lucky because in all reality they Air Force could just pay them nothing. (I know if I was offered no pay for a guaranteed EA slot I'd take it)
 
The new AFROTC stipend payments now match the NROTC stipend payments. AROTC stipend matches the old AFROTC stipend. If I had to guess Army is going to reduce theirs to match and Navy will make no changes.... just guessing though based on absolutely no evidence whatsoever. I'm scratching my head wondering why there was ever a difference between them. :confused:

I think it might have been an issue of supply and demand.

The Army had a bit harder time filling it's ROTC ranks over the last 10 years, not counting the last couple years. It was probably an issue of dangling a little bit bigger carrot.

All the current AROTC websites still show the current stipend amount, my son said the issue came up at school and were told that at this time there were no plans to make a change. This is of course the Army so that could change on a moments notice.

I'm still surprised that the CULP program is moving forward, though they are no longer sending cadets twice, even though the numbers are the same as last year. There has also been no news that any of the summer training programs have been already given have been cut. My son's school received, including my son's MWS in Feb., 2 Airborne, 4 Air Assault, 1 CDQC, and his is a small battalion, there has been no word that any of these will be cancelled, orders are cut and flights already reserved.

With all the cuts being made I'm still surprised they are sending this number of cadets to summer training opportunities. of course these could all be cancelled on a moments notice. For my son's sake if they are going to cancel his school, I hope they do it earlier then later, he is basically turing into a fish training for CDQC.
 
In all reality though, who cares if your stipend gets lowered. Lots of Cadets are upset about it which is silly. Cadets on scholarships are getting most of if not all of their college paid for anyways, and for those not on scholarship but are getting stipends for completing FT it's just $100. Cadets receiving a stipend should consider themselves lucky because in all reality they Air Force could just pay them nothing. (I know if I was offered no pay for a guaranteed EA slot I'd take it)

Most cadets are not on scholarship, for a lot that are they still have expenses such as room and board, several live off campus to keep the costs down using the stipend to help pay rent or buy food.

The stipends are designed to make it easier for cadets not to have to hold a part time job during school, if a cadet is carrying a full load and fully participating in ROTC a part time job becomes difficult.

Take this same issue and apply it to a non ROTC student, if this student has a part time job and the employer announces that there pay will be cut by up to 25% but they will still need to work the same hours, well, these students will complain as well.

It comes down to what numbers you are using to plan your expenses, when those numbers are reduced, it takes a bit to get used to.

As far as the AF not needing to pay anything, will you keep the same train of thought when you reach Active Duty and the Congress decides to cut military pay.
 
My son's school received, including my son's MWS in Feb., 2 Airborne, 4 Air Assault, 1 CDQC, and his is a small battalion, there has been no word that any of these will be cancelled, orders are cut and flights already reserved.

With all the cuts being made I'm still surprised they are sending this number of cadets to summer training opportunities. of course these could all be cancelled on a moments notice. For my son's sake if they are going to cancel his school, I hope they do it earlier then later, he is basically turing into a fish training for CDQC.
I was surprised like you are. Was talking with the cadre about training opportunities too. He told me that no cuts have been made; Penn State only has about 2-3 slots each for of the training schools.
 
I really don't mean to beat a dead horse but, your profile says your AFROTC Class of 2013, was your 10 year career prior enlisted? Just curious.

Sorry to break back off topic.

Yes, I spent 10 years enlisted prior to being selected by a board at HQ AFROTC for this program. I started AFROTC this past August and will graduate/commission this December. The program is called POC-ERP (Professional Officer Course - Early Release Program), and the board picked 5 of us from the active duty force last year. I was an E-6 with an upcoming test cycle for E-7 when I crossed over to the dark side of things.
 
Yes, I spent 10 years enlisted prior to being selected by a board at HQ AFROTC for this program. I started AFROTC this past August and will graduate/commission this December. The program is called POC-ERP (Professional Officer Course - Early Release Program), and the board picked 5 of us from the active duty force last year. I was an E-6 with an upcoming test cycle for E-7 when I crossed over to the dark side of things.

Doesn't the POC-ERP require 2 years in AFROTC?
 
Thanks! My daughter's Detachment advised them of the new stipends a couple of weeks ago.
 
Most cadets are not on scholarship, for a lot that are they still have expenses such as room and board, several live off campus to keep the costs down using the stipend to help pay rent or buy food.

The stipends are designed to make it easier for cadets not to have to hold a part time job during school, if a cadet is carrying a full load and fully participating in ROTC a part time job becomes difficult.

Take this same issue and apply it to a non ROTC student, if this student has a part time job and the employer announces that there pay will be cut by up to 25% but they will still need to work the same hours, well, these students will complain as well.

It comes down to what numbers you are using to plan your expenses, when those numbers are reduced, it takes a bit to get used to.

As far as the AF not needing to pay anything, will you keep the same train of thought when you reach Active Duty and the Congress decides to cut military pay.

And those cadets who aren't on scholarship who are taking similar course loads, doing the same ROTC work as well as having part time jobs??? The same expenses exist. It's the fact that people are complaining about what is essentially free money. Scholarship cadets are being paid for doing the same things non scholarship cadets do. I was also rubbed the wrong way by the reactions when all contracted cadets in my class found out stipends were being lowered. Why are we complaining about getting less money when that's still 250-400 more dollars than a lot of other cadets are getting every month. That is why I also don't like your job analogy. At a job everyone is being paid, and if not you don't complain in front of the volunteers who wish they were on payroll!

If actual scholarship awards were being changed I could see the issue but this is stipend. I personally think it is foolish to budget for a paycheck you haven't received. I am tired of hearing scholarship cadets complain about this outside of the scholarship cadet community. You're rubbing the fact that you even get this free money in non scholarship cadets faces and you're being ungrateful. JMPO :wink:
 
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