AFOQT Scores

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  1. Sled

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    Hello again! This morning I received my AFOQT scores and was wondering how I did. I don't have any scale to base this off of so I don't know how competitive they are.

    Pilot-83
    Nav-78
    ABM-79
    Academic Aptitude-53
    Verbal-75
    Quantitative-34
     
  2. Pima

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    JMPO, but just like scholarship and appointments ... Numbers are only one portion of your WCS. The CoC rec (RSS) is the biggie.

    Just assuming you are wondering because you are up for SFT/EA. Last year was brutal, but this year it could be pretty!
     
  3. Capt. Ahab

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    Consider yourself lucky to of passed, apparently ~23% failed the AFOQT this past semester. But your scores are decent. I definitely wouldn't retake it.
     
  4. AlphaAlphaSigma

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    Your rated scores are pretty decent but if you are going for an EA slot the only score that matters is the Academic Aptitude. 53 is below average compared to all of my peers who got an EA. One of the biggest factor that got me an EA was that my AFOQT scores were extremely high. If you have other factors that can offset the AFOQT scores you'll be fine.
     
  5. Pima

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    I can't remember is the score the percentile rank against everone that took the exam, or is it like a traditional exam and that score equates to the percentile correct.
     
  6. zrxkuma

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    DS was told by his DET that the percentile was the rank against everyone who took that exam.
     
  7. Pima

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    I thought that was the case, but wasn't positive. I remember thinking it was like the PSAT and the NMF.
     
  8. WitheredGryphon

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    Just wanted to shed some light, but AFOQT scores seemed pretty awful overall this year. I talked to some of the past-C200s, now-POCs, and their scores seemed on average significantly higher than this past semester's. We're not off winter break yet so I don't have an overall picture of the most recent AFOQT scores (which I'm sure we're all receiving a lecture over), but 3/17 I know have failed, and another 2 cadets were literally borderline. Thankfully I did fairly well, but my scores (as I've been told from other cadets) were some of the highest in the entire Det for the past semester. This surprised me considering, from what I've read online, my scores compared to others are mediocre at best.

    Pilot: 65
    Nav: 47
    Academic Aptitude: 79
    Verbal: 83
    Quantitative: 68

    Nationally I'm curious what kind of picture this will paint for EA selection if Arab's statistic holds true: that nearly 1 in every 4 cadets failed the test. Out of our current C400s, only 1 or 2 of them failed the test when they took it (and that was out of about number of cadets we have now).

    And just to confirm, the way we were told to view the scores as was "if you scored 70%, then you did better than 70% of the nation on that particular portion."
     
  9. Pima

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    I am not sure how they can be overall worse this year if the scores are percentiles of not questions answered correctly, but ranking. IOWS a 65 on pilot equates to be in the top 65% of those that took the exam, thus all it means is if the cadets that you know that took it last year did significantly better means they just did better compared to their peers last year.
     
  10. WitheredGryphon

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    As far as I know it's possible to fail in multiple categories due to multiple minimum requirements. The lowest threshold percentage would be 15% and the max would be 25%.

    In the 15% case, all those who failed their verbal also failed their quantitative. In the 25% case, the 15% who failed their verbal passed the quantitative, however a separate additional 10% failed their verbal, totaling a 25% failure rate. This year was almost worst case scenario
     
  11. Pima

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    I understand all of that. My point was you had stated that the 300s last year as 200s scored significantly higher and since the scores are percentile than all that means is your year group at your detachment didn't score as well nationally as they did last year.
     
  12. WitheredGryphon

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    Oh I see what you mean. Then nationally, yes it appears our detachment scored lower nationally than they did in previous years. Judging from the stat that Arab posted though, it looks to be a more common occurrence in multiple detachments this year is what I was trying to get at though.
     
  13. Pima

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    Ahab's stats are actually on par. 23% failed the AFOQT, and if you look at 25 being the minimum on the quantative than 23% would be right....actually 24% if you use 25 as the min. Will there be some units with higher amount of cadets that bust the exam compared to other units? I would think so. Think about it, do you really think that the cadet at MIT or USAFA is going to have problems on the test when many of them probably scored 33+ on the ACT? Yes, USAFA cadets also take the AFOQT.
    ~ Not trying to slam other colleges, just saying that some cadets are attending top tier/elite colleges and usually they tend to do well on standardized tests.

    Than you also need to add in those that are taking it for the 2nd time too.

    JMPO, but I would think a 25 will hurt no matter what. Yes, the AFOQT is a small percentage of the WCS for SFT/EA, but it might be hard for a CoC to rank a cadet in the top 1/3 of the unit with that score, especially if their cgpa is on the cusp.
    ~ It is one thing to say it was a bad day or they are not a good test taker, another to say as great of a cadet they are, academically they are not being able to juggle it as well as another cadet.
    ~~ Additionally every point counts. Let's assume they rank out in the top 1/3 o the unit, but if their PFT, AFOQT and cgpa are on the cusp and they are not a tech major it can equate to no EA.

    I believe last year the avg cgpa was @3.4 for non-tech. Unfortunately they didn't release, or I never saw what the median AFOQT was for selection.

    Finally, for those that want rated this exam will not be used for the board. It will be TBAS.
    ~~~ If you can afford to get some pilot hours now, DO SO! You get points on the PCSM for flight hours. Somebody will correct me, but I believe the minimum needed to get a bump is 6. Having your PPL will give you the most and currently will allow you to have IFS waived.
     
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  14. Capt. Ahab

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    Yeah, it makes sense. But it is a new test that was issued, and I am guessing that the testers used to design the test were above average.

    I'd be interested to know what the fail rate was in years past.
     
  15. WitheredGryphon

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    Pima: The minimum for quantitative is 10, but I do see what you're saying. I'd also be interested in seeing what the failure rates were for previous years as well, Ahab.
     
  16. UMDTOUSAFA?

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    I only know of two cadets that failed at my det out of around 50, so I'm not sure if this sort of failure rate is widespread. Just for reference these are my scores, and I know quite a few who scored higher than me from friends at other dets.
    Pilot-94
    Nav-89
    ABM-97
    Academic Aptitude-92
    Verbal-73
    Quantitative-96
     
  17. cugirl25

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    My son is on a Type 1 scholarship and his scores:

    Pilot: 87
    Nav: 84
    ABM: 96
    Academic Aptitude: 97

    I'm not sure of the Verbal or Quantitative, lol. He is majoring in Chemistry. He isn't quite sure what he wants to do, but since taking this test he is considering ABM.
     
  18. Pima

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    I would suggest he investigates the ABM lifestyle. It is very unique!
     
  19. Lolz777

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    what is the ABM score? I took the AFOQT last semester and my score didnt have an ABM score.
     
  20. Cannonball

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    Could some more people post their scores? I know I have time before I take it but I want to get an idea of what successful pilots got. Maybe some posters who already went though it would post theirs?
     

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