AFPT and Marine Corps Test

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  1. taymcg12

    taymcg12 Member

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    Hey again everyone! I just was wondering how all you guys and gals who have either received, or have a child that has received, an AROTC scholarship or MO NROTC scholarship did in the fitness test. What kind of numbers did you put up?

    I also read online that the AROTC scholarship can be received before the AFPT has even been completed, all though you will have to pass it to be awarded a contract. Is this true that I could hold out until after I a offered a scholarship? I am pretty fit so it is not a major issue.

    Thanks everyone!
     
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    I was also wondering about one of the AROTC scholarship app secrions. I am no longer able to change my unweighted GPA. I was going to type in a new GPA because mine actually went down slightly. The box will not let me click or edit anything and my GPA is stuck on a 3.7 unweighted. Does this mean that Cadet Command recalculated my GPA after receiving my transcripts and has inputed that data permanently?
     
  3. kinnem

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    Marine PFT - I think the kid put up a 260+ in the PFT about 4 years ago.
     
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  4. kinnem

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    I do think they recalculate your GPA based on several factors including your school profile. In any case I'm sure they wouldn't let an applicant change their GPA anyway. If I were running the asylum I would only accept GPAs via transcripts.
     
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  5. taymcg12

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    Thats a pretty darn good score. And as far as changing my GPA, I know that at one time I was able to do so freely. I just wanted to lower my GPA to match my new GPA so that I was not looking dishonest, but I am not able to change it anymore.
     
  6. NavyHoops

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    I would say Marine wise shoot for at least a 275 and above.
     
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  7. clarksonarmy

    clarksonarmy Recruiting Operations Officer at Clarkson Army

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    You don't receive the scholarship unless you are contracted. To get contracted/receive a scholarship you need to pass the APFT. I think right now I'm 4 for 6 freshman scholarship winners who have passed so far this year.
     
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    @taymcg12 NavyHoops post reminds me that.... oh yeah, with that 260+ my kid did not get a 4 year scholarship. He did get a sideload scholarship midway through sophomore year.
     
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  9. rocatlin

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    275+ should be the goal, although my son didn't get it the first time around with a 279. He picked up the 4 year MO scholarship the second time around with basically the same score and same stats.
     
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  10. Falcon A

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    From what I observed at VMI this year, 30 out of the 37 4-yr AROTC recipients passed the APFT the first opportunity on 21 Aug 2015.
     
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    Regarding the Marine PFT: be careful how you read the excellent responses thus far. Its not as if there is a magic number that separates those who earn scholarships from those that don't. Over the years we have seen scores self-reported from 225 - 300. Some with high scores got a scholarship while others did not. It is not a direct cause and effect relationship. The application involves essays, grades, extracurricular activities, an interview AND a PFT.

    The max PFT score is 300. While the consensus of responses is centering on 275 (and that is a worthy target) we have seen scholarships awarded to applicants with lower scores. I can't recall ever seeing anything less than a 1st class score (225) but I am sure it has probably happened over the years. I would have responded to your question with a score of 250+ as my estimate of the average I have seen. And then I would tell you to focus on getting a 300.
     
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    DS said most of the freshmen passed the APFT at his school this year. For Army passing is 180 out of a possible 300.
     
  13. rocatlin

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    I agree with USMCGrunt even though I suggested 275 -- which is a score that was thrown out by the RS for our region. A lot of the PFT score is not the actual score itself, but the perception of the drive to get to a high first class score -- which is more a reflection of your bearing and professional development. Just don't me a "passing" or "minimum" type of candidate. That is really frowned upon. Don't have the attitude of "I'll get better after I get to my goal." Have the attitude of getting better in order to get TO your goal -- and then set the next goal. It's part of your character evaluation as well.
     
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    Agree with Grunt. I think anything definitely a First Class, 225 and above, is a must. I said 275 because as an officer that is really what they want to see. Agree that there is not hard and fast written rule and you will see scores from 225-300.
     
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    I had two friends take it for VMI, they both passed but told me that a few did not. Does this mean that they did not take the AFPT before being selected?
     
  16. Falcon A

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    Correct -- you do not take the APFT as part of the AROTC selection process. HOWEVER, you do have to take an Army ROTC Fitness Assessment
    https://www.goarmy.com/content/dam/...-physical-fitness-assessment-scorecard-13.pdf

    It is my understanding there is no "minimum" for the Army ROTC Fitness Assessment, but the more reps you do and the faster you run, the better your score -- and it does count towards whether you are awarded a 4 year or a 3 year Army ROTC national scholarship.

    If you are awarded one of the Army ROTC 3 year or 4 year national scholarships, you DO have to take and pass the APFT before your scholarship will "activate" = start paying your tuition. The 4 year winners take the APFT at the start of the freshman semester.

    The APFT is a little bit different from the Army ROTC Fitness Assessment. For instance, you have 2 min to do pushups and 2 min to do sit-ups and a 2 mile run for the APFT. The Army ROTC Fitness assessment is 1 min for pushups, 1 min for curl ups and a 1 mile run.
     
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  17. mattjr96

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    taymcg12, Back in my Senior year of high school I got a 286 USMC PFT, no scholarship. Then after the 1st board I re-took it and got a 292, still no scholarship. Came to college as a college program mid, and got a 299 and was awarded a scholarship. PFT is very important but not the final say on whether youll get a scholarship. From what I understand if you get a 285 or higher you get 3 points on toward your app. and then a certain range for 2 points, and then proably a certain range down to 225 (Officer minimum) for 1 point.
     
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