AFROTC 3rd Board Hopefuls

Discussion in 'ROTC' started by Non Ducor Duco, Mar 6, 2012.

  1. Non Ducor Duco

    Non Ducor Duco I am not led, I lead

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    I read that the 3rd board met Feb. 27-Mar. 2. It might be a bit early to start this thread but what the heck! Has anyone's status changed yet? And when your status does change, do the letters stay red? Idk about you guys, but that really freaks me out every time I check my status, then I realize its the same old "blah blah blah...your interview has been processed" bit lol.
     
  2. CrossCountryRunner12

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    Hey my status didn't change yet, it just says it will meet with the next available board. Since the results are supposed to come out around March 16th, we should probably hear back sometime next week I guess.
     
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  3. Non Ducor Duco

    Non Ducor Duco I am not led, I lead

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    Ah, well, here's hoping for the both of us :thumb:
     
  4. FlyingWildcatDad

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    Good luck to all of you who are still waiting, results from 3rd board should me out sometime next week. FYI, my son received the letter in the mail before his application tracker changed.
     
  5. Non Ducor Duco

    Non Ducor Duco I am not led, I lead

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    Great, another thing for me to check feverishly :rolleyes:. Thanks for the info though!
     
  6. CrossCountryRunner12

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    Thanks, Good Luck to you too! :thumb:I bet the mailman is going to be happy he's being stalked now. I'm hoping I get selected for a scholarship since I was medically DQ'd from the Air Force Academy. Like they say, don't give up in the face of failure.

    What Air Force Rotc college are you hoping to get into? I'm trying to get selected for Penn States detachment.
     
  7. Non Ducor Duco

    Non Ducor Duco I am not led, I lead

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    That's the spirit:thumb:. I'm going to Georgia Tech in the fall, its the feeder school for most of the rotc units, especially air force (army has more options), in the area because the next closest host is UGA which is 2-3 hours away, the units aren't very big though. But I wasn't aware that I would have to really compete for a slot in an ROTC unit freshman year. I thought they just took whoever is deemed qualified physically and academically and has good leadership qualities. It seems like if i can get into georgia tech(which is pretty selective, though not overtly so) for engineering, i can get into the rotc unit no problem. But i guess it would be more competitive getting into a unit at a school like Penn state because rotc seems to be a popular organization in certain areas.

    I don't know what it is, but its like, once you enter the bible belt (Georgia, Mississippi, Alabama, etc.), certain things are relatively unheard of. I know of plenty of people who enlist, but only one person who ever did college rotc, and they enlisted first then went to college (luck for me cause i wouldn't have heard about it otherwise). Heck, my school has a pretty big jrotc unit, but in 4 years i don't think there has been 1 rotc scholarship recipient. They all seek to enlist, but none of the ones i spoke to knew about the college scholarship. Our jrotc is pretty much a joke, according to ppl who take it and from what i've seen of their physical abilities, its "just a free class" where really all they learn is discipline and how to conduct themselves publicly, something my parents made sure i knew how to do from a young age (spare the rod, spoil the child and all that jazz:wink:) so that type of jrotc would have been just as useful to me as mentorship(FYI there is no mentoring in mentorship class, you just work in attendance, library, etc. basically its a free period). No challenge, HUGE waste of time. But the raiders team is really good so im surprised none of them have gotten any awards. I could be wrong, but our school is pretty poor, is cool with the military, and hasn't made AYP in about 6 years so they jump at the opportunity show off any and every award.

    But since you're "trying to get selected", did you already submit some sort of direct application to Penn state's rotc program?
     
  8. CrossCountryRunner12

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    Hey sorry for the late reply! One of my family members had surgery, so I was busy helping them the past few days. Oh I heard Georgia tech is a really good school. Best of luck to you!

    To be honest I’m not really sure how competitive it is to get into rotc at PSU. I’m going to a branch campus for two years before I go to main (to focus on studying and getting high grades the first two years). The branch campus has a crosstown agreement with another college, and you pretty much enroll in the program. For example, for PSU Navy ROTC program, you just let them know your interested and they will send you the paperwork in May to enroll (what I was told by one of the people who works in the ROTC building).

    I wish my school would have JROTC. I have only 49 kids in my graduating class (250 total in highschool).

    Sorry for the misunderstanding about *trying to get selected*. I just spoke to the person in charge (secretary) that handles the ROTC applications, and they told me that they’ll send an email to kids that were originally interested before to see if they still want to enroll in the class. If they are, the paperwork will be sent to them.

    Well I check my AFROTC status today and it still hasn’t changed. It’s a little nerve racking lol. Well best of luck to you and good luck!:thumb:
     
  9. Pima

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    AFROTC is not like A/NROTC when it comes to scholarships. You are awarded the scholarship and can take it anywhere you want. You are not competing for an AFROTC scholarship at PSU. You are competing for an AFROTC scholarship.

    Don't concern yourself with PSU AFROTC accepting you. If PSU accepts you and you have no scholarship, you just show up Day 1 to AFROTC and you are in as a cadet.

    You will need to do well on the PFT, because if you want an IS scholarship that score will be part of the equation just as it was part for the HSSP. However, because you will not contract it is not the same as it would be for scholarship recipients. Bust the PFT as a scholarship recipient you cannot contract until you pass. No tuition, no book allowance, no stipend. It is a do not pass go, do not collect 18K, 900 in books, and 250 in allowance.
     
  10. Non Ducor Duco

    Non Ducor Duco I am not led, I lead

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    Oh, we weren't talking about competing for school based AFROTC scholarships. CrossCountryRunner mentioned that he was trying to get into Penn state's ROTC program period. I was asking for clarification because it sounded to me like he/she was saying that getting into Penn state's ROTC program without a scholarship by itself was competitive when I was under the impression that anyone who is physically and academically qualified would be able to simply join the program.
     
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    They can all be competitive, some more than others, and it can vary from year to year. There are issues of classroom space, uniforms, etc. Sometimes they're not an issue, sometimes they are.
     
  12. CrossCountryRunner12

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    Hey just for the clarification, I am a “guy”. The only reason why I’m hoping to get a scholarship, is that I know I’m already medically DQ’d. I was DQ’d from both the Air Force and Naval Academy this year for hearing loss in my left ear.

    Nobody knows if it can be waived or not, another way to put it, my condition is as closest as it can be on the middle of the fence. If I’m able to get a scholarship, then I know there might be a way to obtain my medical qualification.

    If I just enroll in the class on day 1, I’m not sure if there’s anyway that I can obtain my medical clearance as an enrolled freshman “not on a scholarship”

    I have a strong ambition to serve in the ranks of the military and this medical DQ sorta has my plans on halt right now. I just don't want my heart to get set in the program an find out two years down the road that I can't become an officer due to my disqualification.
     
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  13. Non Ducor Duco

    Non Ducor Duco I am not led, I lead

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    Ah, well im a "girl". Everyone usually assumes that the person on the other end is a guy so I thought I'd cover my bases:wink:. Tough luck with the hearing disqualification, they don't seem to be giving you the time of day because of it. It's hard not to take these things personal, even though you know it isn't, because it feels like they are passing judgement on you, on all that you have worked towards. It is times like these, when you feel the fear of failure clouding your thoughts, that you have to recognize that, win or lose, it does not determine who you are. Those who aspire to greatness, and have the focus and determination to achieve that greatness, shall find it within themselves.

    "The spirit, the will to win, and the will to excel are the things that endure. These qualities are so much more important than the events that occur." Vince Lombardi

    "It's a very funny thing about life; if you refuse to accept anything but the best, you very often get it."William Somerset Maugham

    Failure is not an option, there is no choice but to succeed. If you or I or any one of you out there do not get it this time around, it doesn't mean that we were not good enough. All it means is that we have to take slightly different roads to greatness. For those who are "rejected" and truly wish to serve, its ok. They may not have seen your greatness this time around, but you can go to your respective cadre next school year and show it to them in a way that will make them wonder how anyone could have ever passed you up.

    I've been going through some things, these past 8 months or so have been rather depressing. For a while I thought that, if I could only get this, everything would be better or at least as it was before. Thankfully, my Father snapped me out of it. I swear I can hear God speaking to me through him. I wanted it so badly, and still want it just as bad, but I know it wouldn't be the end of the world and that it wouldn't some how erase all that I've accomplished and all that I stand for.

    Sorry for the long post. Since I've had these things on my mind, I'm sure that there are others who's spirits have been molested by similarly dark thoughts lately so I felt like some people needed a pep talk, myself included:wink:.
     
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  14. Pima

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    CrossCountry,

    You have an uphill battle because your DQ is a hearing issue.

    I know you want rated, so it is important to understand that there are actually two tiers regarding the military. It is often referred to on this site as PPQ or PQ. Potentially Pilot Qualified or Potentially Qualified.

    You may get that waiver, thus can be in the AF, but at the same time DQ'd to fly.

    Hearing is a huge issue, and the AF doesn't like to give waivers for rated unless they must. Most rated officers will lose certain tones regarding hearing over yrs. Once you separate from the military, and you will be retirement or call it a day, you will have a medical out process exam, and now this issue is on their dime for the rest of your life, medically.

    Bullet entered with perfect hearing, but 20 yrs later, he has 10% disability pay on the AF dime because of hearing loss and tinnitus connected to yrs of flying.

    They expect hearing loss, let's be honest planes are not quiet. If I understand you correctly you can have surgery to correct it, but let's remember we are not talking about commercial airline flying here, where you pop your ears on take off and descent. We are talking about pulling 7,8, 9 Gs, and vertical assent or descent in a rapid amount of time, blowing out an ear drum in a dog fight just for training purposes will be their fear.

    Before you say, "Well I'll fly heavies so it isn't an issue", let me stop you. That is not how it works. If you go rated they expect you to be able to fly any and every airframe. Flieger on this site has flown KC's and 16's. They can't have UPT students who can only track heavies as a student. Fliers are known as the Million Dollar Member because between training personnel, fuel and maintenance that is how much it costs on a very good day to just get them through UPT. It isn't personal, it is business.

    Additionally the way the rated system works for AFROTC is they ship every cadet to Wright Pat for a 3 day physical. Yes, 3 days. They do everything from EKGs to Vision to Dental to Hearing. Giving a waiver from their POV, ties one of their hands. From your POV if it deteriorates that waiver is worth the paper it was written on and you are not guaranteed of not getting nailed.

    ~~~ I.E.: Great friend played FB for the AFA, injured at the AFA, but was waived to fly. 10 yrs later playing intra-mural squadron flag FB on base he re-injured his back. He was DQ'd from flying permanently. They waived him originally, but now the current injury for the same part of his body DQ'd him totally.

    I do not mean to be Janie Rain Cloud. I hope you get the DQ waived, but if your only motivation is to fly, than you need to ask yourself what is your PLAN B AF career plan if they waive it to serve, but not for rated.

    JMPO, but if I were you I would seek out a doc that is renown in the auditory field. Have you contacted the referral Doc that the AF sent you too? They know the DoDMERB regs. they can inform you of the exact issues and if there is a way to work this out.

    For example: Many times people are DQ'd due to surgeries and not enough of a lag time. Some times it is the surgery itself. Sometimes it is nothing more than 24 hours of pure silence...no music, no tv, just silence. Bullet had to do that many times.

    I don't know your issue, I am just saying before you leap, talk to the DOD doc for guidance.

    I know what I am posting is placing a pit in your stomach, but at least you have the ability now to address it and make a logical decision on your future.
    You are at a cross road, unfortunately it is medical, it appears you know this will be an issue. Time to be proactive.
     
  15. craeder

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    check the tracker!!

    Those still waiting should check the Application Tracker ASAP! DS just texted to say his status changed to "Congratulations - you were awarded a scholarship...". No idea what Type yet tho but assume Type 7 since he requested a non-tech major...
     
  16. Pima

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    It looks like just from how this site is lighting up, the results are out.

    Best thoughts, wishes and hopes to all of the candidates!
     
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    Congratulations to you and your DS. My DS's status changed this morning too. It certainly is a day to celebrate!! :smile:
     
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    Now if only NROTC MO will get their results out. I may have to go buy some fireworks to celebrate for everyone regardless of service branch. Good luck candidates, and congratulations to awardees. :thumb:
     
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    Yes! Just saw the notification that I received a scholarship, still don't know which type.
     
  20. Winner

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    Awwww yeah just got the congrats online!

    Hoping everything works out for everyone else!
     

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