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My son received a 4 year type 7 scholarship. He was disappointed, because according to the Air Force website, he fell slightly above the criteria for last years type 2 awards. I guess the application pool was a good one this year, as made evident by the credentials some of the winners have posted here. Congratulations to everyone! I am not clear as to the description of the type 7:

type 7 – Pays college tuition up to the equivalent of the in-state rate at a public school and $900 per year for books. If a student receives a Type-7 offer but wishes to attend a college/university where they do not qualify under the guidelines above, the student can convert the four-Year Type-7 scholarship to a three-Year Type-2 scholarship. You cannot activate a Type-7 scholarship at a non-qualifying school and pay the difference.

Does In-state rate mean YOUR state? Does public school mean a STATE school (in or out of your state)? What does NON-QUALIFYING school mean exactly?
 
kimmystarz said:
My son received a 4 year type 7 scholarship. He was disappointed, because according to the Air Force website, he fell slightly above the criteria for last years type 2 awards. I guess the application pool was a good one this year, as made evident by the credentials some of the winners have posted here. Congratulations to everyone! I am not clear as to the description of the type 7:

type 7 – Pays college tuition up to the equivalent of the in-state rate at a public school and $900 per year for books. If a student receives a Type-7 offer but wishes to attend a college/university where they do not qualify under the guidelines above, the student can convert the four-Year Type-7 scholarship to a three-Year Type-2 scholarship. You cannot activate a Type-7 scholarship at a non-qualifying school and pay the difference.

Does In-state rate mean YOUR state? Does public school mean a STATE school (in or out of your state)? What does NON-QUALIFYING school mean exactly?
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Type 7 pays for the tuition and fees of any public school (any school that isn't private) in YOUR state. So if you live in Virginia, the scholarship will cover you going to any school in Virginia. But say you've been accepted to a school in VA that costs $14,000 per year, but want to attend a school in Georgia that costs $18,000 per year for out of state students. You can't take your type-7 and apply it to the school in GA and just pay the $4,000 difference. If you want to attend a school out of state, you have to convert your 4 year type-7 scholarship into a 3 year type-2. In this case you would not be on scholarship for the first year, but would contract your sophomore year and your tuition and fees would be paid from then on. If your have a Tech major like Engineering that qualifies for the 5 year track, a 3 year scholarship holder can extend it to cover 4 years. There is no case though, where you can start a 3 yr type 2 scholarship early. If your on the 5 year track, you would have to pay for the 1st year, and the last 4 years would be covered. And if you can feasibly complete your degree in 3 years coming in as a freshman, you can't ask to contract early and have it cover that 1st year.

If your first choice of school is in state anyways, a type 7 is the same as a type 1, it covers everything an AFROTC scholarship can cover.

** Now, the contract for a type-7 states that you must attend a school at which you QUALIFY for in state tuition. This means that if you want to go to a school that offers in state tuition to ROTC students, you can apply it there.
 
Non Ducor Duco said:
Type 7 pays for the tuition and fees of any public school (any school that isn't private) in YOUR state. So if you live in Virginia, the scholarship will cover you going to any school in Virginia. But say you've been accepted to a school in VA that costs $14,000 per year, but want to attend a school in Georgia that costs $18,000 per year for out of state students. You can't take your type-7 and apply it to the school in GA and just pay the $4,000 difference. If you want to attend a school out of state, you have to convert your 4 year type-7 scholarship into a 3 year type-2. In this case you would not be on scholarship for the first year, but would contract your sophomore year and your tuition and fees would be paid from then on. If your have a Tech major like Engineering that qualifies for the 5 year track, a 3 year scholarship holder can extend it to cover 4 years. There is no case though, where you can start a 3 yr type 2 scholarship early. If your on the 5 year track, you would have to pay for the 1st year, and the last 4 years would be covered. And if you can feasibly complete your degree in 3 years coming in as a freshman, you can't ask to contract early and have it cover that 1st year.

If your first choice of school is in state anyways, a type 7 is the same as a type 1, it covers everything an AFROTC scholarship can cover.

** Now, the contract for a type-7 states that you must attend a school at which you QUALIFY for in state tuition. This means that if you want to go to a school that offers in state tuition to ROTC students, you can apply it there.
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I'm a bit confused on a couple things here...

Type 7 pays for the tuition and fees of any public school (any school that isn't private) in YOUR state. Is this really how it works? I thought it was good at ANY Public school that you qualify for IS tuition. It did NOT have to be in YOUR state....

This means that if you want to go to a school that offers in state tuition to ROTC students, you can apply it there What if they don't offer IS tuition to ROTC students but you recieve a scholarship based on Academics for IS tuition? Does this not count?

The way I understood it to work is: If you qualify for IS tuition for ANY Public University then you can use the Type 7 at that school. It did NOT have to be your home state Public and it did NOT matter why you were granted IS rates. Only that you do qualify for IS rates and it is a Public University.

If anyone can clarify It would be greatly appreciated....
 
I would also add that the scholarship may say 4 years, and if you convert it to 3 yr Type 2, place a few more things into your equation.

1. The scholarship is truly only guaranteed for 2 years. No SFT, and your DS will be dis-enrolled. The scholarship will go away.

2. In this current environment, do not expect if you convert to a Type 2 to increase (18k), but expect the cost of tuition to increase @ 10% per year. If it is 17k this year, plan on 20 k before he contracts, and 25k when he commissions. If you can only afford because right now the tuition is under the 18k marker, decide how you can afford it three years from now making up the difference, or worse the loss of the scholarship
 
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Rocko said:
I'm a bit confused on a couple things here...

Type 7 pays for the tuition and fees of any public school (any school that isn't private) in YOUR state. Is this really how it works? I thought it was good at ANY Public school that you qualify for IS tuition. It did NOT have to be in YOUR state....

This means that if you want to go to a school that offers in state tuition to ROTC students, you can apply it there What if they don't offer IS tuition to ROTC students but you recieve a scholarship based on Academics for IS tuition? Does this not count?

The way I understood it to work is: If you qualify for IS tuition for ANY Public University then you can use the Type 7 at that school. It did NOT have to be your home state Public and it did NOT matter why you were granted IS rates. Only that you do qualify for IS rates and it is a Public University.

If anyone can clarify It would be greatly appreciated....
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The reason of in state being given to ROTC students was just an example, there are other reasons someone can be given in state at a university. The big thing is that you can't apply a type-7 to a school where you qualify as out of state and expect to be able to pay the difference whether on your own dime or through another scholarship. If the scholarship is specifically to qualify you for in state rates, that situation is a little less clear on the contract. I would suggest you call the scholarship technician assigned to your DS's last name ask them. You can find the number for HQ on the AFROTC website, I found them to be very helpful when I was applying.

Hopefully someone can explain this a little more clearly, I contracted with a type-7 but I don't have my contracting papers right here in front of me to quote from.
 
I would actually change the comment of contacting. Your DS should contact because once he hits 18, as a parent they have the right to say they cannot discuss anything with you since legally they are an adult.

I can tell you that all 3 of my kids have been required from their 3 different colleges to set up an account for my access to pay the bursar. It is comical. I have a monthly payment taken from my checking account by the bursar, but if I want to see the bill I need them (the kids) to inform the bursar I have their approval.

The faster he takes control of this, the easier it will be next year.

As far as the scholarship goes, is your child being charged by the bursar IS or OOS. For example, our DS had merit to every college that brought the cost down to free ride. However, according to the bursar he was being charged OOS.

TAMU is a great example, if you get a scholarship for a specific amount, the bursar will not charge OOS, even if you live in AK. The bill will be IS, thus, the Type 7 is good to go.

If you call Maxwell they are probably just going to say contact your bursar to find out if they classify you OOS or IS.
 
Pima said:
I would actually change the comment of contacting. Your DS should contact because once he hits 18, as a parent they have the right to say they cannot discuss anything with you since legally they are an adult.

I can tell you that all 3 of my kids have been required from their 3 different colleges to set up an account for my access to pay the bursar. It is comical. I have a monthly payment taken from my checking account by the bursar, but if I want to see the bill I need them (the kids) to inform the bursar I have their approval.

The faster he takes control of this, the easier it will be next year.

As far as the scholarship goes, is your child being charged by the bursar IS or OOS. For example, our DS had merit to every college that brought the cost down to free ride. However, according to the bursar he was being charged OOS.

TAMU is a great example, if you get a scholarship for a specific amount, the bursar will not charge OOS, even if you live in AK. The bill will be IS, thus, the Type 7 is good to go.

If you call Maxwell they are probably just going to say contact your bursar to find out if they classify you OOS or IS.
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My DS does all the contacting regarding ROTC/Academies. I am just there for guidance/support. The OOS school he is looking at is TAMU and he will be doing a SNWC in a few weeks.

He can clarify this with them while he is there.

Thanks for the feedback. It is appreciated.
 
I received a 4 year type 7 for Engineering Psychology (Tier 2). However, I will be enrolling in AROTC instead. I was wondering what the best course of action is for me. I have heard that if I accept the scholarship but do not activate it next year, the money is instead given to that Detachment for ICSP's. Is this the case?
 
:confused: :confused::confused:

AFROTC has no tiers. You are either tech or non-tech. You either have a type7 or a 2.

If enrolling AROTC, the ICSP question needs to be asked on an AROTC thread.

Congrats, thank you for serving this great nation.
 
Pima said:
:confused: :confused::confused:

AFROTC has no tiers. You are either tech or non-tech. You either have a type7 or a 2.

If enrolling AROTC, the ICSP question needs to be asked on an AROTC thread.

Congrats, thank you for serving this great nation.
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Sorry I got confused with NROTC in terms of tiers. I just meant to ask if it would be better for the AFROTC detachment if I accepted their scholarship but did not actually use it.
 
awindmiller14 said:
Sorry I got confused with NROTC in terms of tiers. I just meant to ask if it would be better for the AFROTC detachment if I accepted their scholarship but did not actually use it.
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Decline the scholarship and let the Air Force decide the best use of the money. You have no idea what they do with it anyway. Trust me. It will be well used.
 
kinnem said:
Decline the scholarship and let the Air Force decide the best use of the money. You have no idea what they do with it anyway. Trust me. It will be well used.
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Haha thanks for the sound advice. Sometimes I try and find the most complicated solution.
 
Just got re-boarded after being reviewed by the January board, have to wait for March board now. I met with the detachment commander and he seemed to like me, should I just ask him about the CLS?
 
Got more info from e-mail my son got:

Congratulations! We have conditionally selected you to receive a 4-Year, Type 7, Technical Major, Air Force ROTC college scholarship. Your selection is a significant first step on your journey to success and was based on your scholarship selection board ranking, academic major choice and the number of scholarships available in each academic category. Our policy on the Type 7 scholarship requires that you use your Type 7 scholarship at an AFROTC affiliated public school where you qualify for that school's in-state tuition rate. For those not qualifying for a public school's in-state tuition rate, we do not allow Type 7 designees to use the scholarship and pay the difference. However we know some Type 7 designees desire to attend out-of-state schools. Upon activation of the 4-Year, Type 7 scholarship you will also receive an allowance for textbooks and at least a $300 monthly stipend during the school year. To accommodate these desires, we do allow Type 7 designees to convert the 4-Year, Type 7 scholarship to a 3-Year, Type 2 scholarship. The Type 2 designee can attend any AFROTC affiliated school, regardless of the tuition amount. If the annual tuition exceeds $18,000, the student is responsible for the difference. The 3-Year, Type 2 scholarship can be activated at the beginning of the sophomore year, although the student must be a full-time student and must attend AFROTC their freshman year at the same school where they intend to activate their scholarship.

There is a link that gives you a list of several schools who may offer in-state tuition and only two of my son's four potential schools were listed.
 
My son was not selected at this time and will be reevaluated the end of March.

So I have to ask as I am attempting to understand what this means. My son is far more optimistic than I.

What does this mean? Does it mean
1)He's at the bottom of the barrel and they aren't ready to scrape it yet?
2)For the type of scholarship he is competing for its too soon to say? (we were told he was being considered/presented for a level 1, and he has a strategic major)
3)This is a polite way of saying "hit the road jack" before sending the "nope, not for you" message?
3)He isn't competitive for a level 1 and may be considering a lower level (7 to convert to a 2)?

He is still hoping to be accepted into the USAFA, which would make this entire post moot. However, it is a highly competitive field, and other plans need to be in place.
 
I was wondering the same - re-boarded til March. If it's bad news just give it to me now and not wait till April.
 
I have said this in previous years, actually stressed it, but forgot to say it this year.

Do not read anything at all into reboarding. This site is very small. Re-boarding typically means they want to see a larger pool size. He may be on the cusp between anything, 1 and 2, 2 and 7, 7 and nothing.

I believe some after the December board already got the at this time we are unable .....letter.

Stay optimistic. Keep moving forward with plan B, C and D though.
 
Pima said:
I have said this in previous years, actually stressed it, but forgot to say it this year.

Do not read anything at all into reboarding. This site is very small. Re-boarding typically means they want to see a larger pool size. He may be on the cusp between anything, 1 and 2, 2 and 7, 7 and nothing.

I believe some after the December board already got the at this time we are unable .....letter.

Stay optimistic. Keep moving forward with plan B, C and D though.
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Thanks for the clarification!
 
Momba,

Every year there are candidates that get an appointment, but a not at this time letter for the scholarship.

The ROTC scholarship is a national selection board, whereas, AFA starts from a geo centric perspective and ends at a national level. It really doesn't matter if you live in Timbucktoo or Arlington VA for AFROTC. It does for AFA.
 
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