AFROTC EA due date

They may drop on Friday a.m. and the CoC may call everyone in for a Sat a.m. meeting. They can do that if they want.

Time is starting to get against them because many schools will start their finals in about 6 weeks, even less come next week. There will be paperwork that needs to be done, such as a medical exam and a bag drag, plus orders need to be cut.

Whether they have ever done it before or not really doesn't matter because up until this year there was no EA rated non-tech vs non-rated non-tech. As always, things keep tweaking every year and you have to just go with the flow.

Good luck.
 
I'm curious to know, how are EAs generally presented at other Dets? Mine announces them in front of everyone (the entire wing + cadre) at the end of a LLAB day. There are pros and cons to this. The good thing is if your name is called you get a great big cheer, slaps on the back, and get to share your pure joy with everyone. But if you don't get an EA, you have to listen to everyone be happy while your standing in the back of the crowd experiencing one of the most disappointing moments of your life, trying not to make eye contact with anyone.
 
At our DS's det. cadets were told to report at two different times prior to LLAB. One group was given EA, the other wasn't. Those that did not get EA were allowed to skip LLAB for the day.

That is basically how ADAF promotion board results work, at least every base Bullet was assigned to. Those not picked up were not required to show up for the day.
 
Non Ducor Duco said:
I'm curious to know, how are EAs generally presented at other Dets? Mine announces them in front of everyone (the entire wing + cadre) at the end of a LLAB day. There are pros and cons to this. The good thing is if your name is called you get a great big cheer, slaps on the back, and get to share your pure joy with everyone. But if you don't get an EA, you have to listen to everyone be happy while your standing in the back of the crowd experiencing one of the most disappointing moments of your life, trying not to make eye contact with anyone.
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My commander plans on telling each FTP their results individually during LLAB. I will assume that she wants to tell those that didn't get EAs first so that they don't need to stay for LLAB.

I honestly think that your detachment's way of presenting EA results is only good if everyone makes it in. While a public announcement of the EAs praises those that got EAs, I think that it publicly humiliates those that didn't get one. If that happened to me it would leave a sour taste in my mouth and I will probably leave the detachment with resentment.
 
Just got back from LLAB today. No news yet, hopefully next week.

Typically our detachment commander calls the cadets into his office individually and gives the EA news. This may change for us next year as we will have a new commander.
 
AlphaAlphaSigma said:
My commander plans on telling each FTP their results individually during LLAB. I will assume that she wants to tell those that didn't get EAs first so that they don't need to stay for LLAB.

I honestly think that your detachment's way of presenting EA results is only good if everyone makes it in. While a public announcement of the EAs praises those that got EAs, I think that it publicly humiliates those that didn't get one. If that happened to me it would leave a sour taste in my mouth and I will probably leave the detachment with resentment.
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Perhaps individually might be better, but in the end everyone still knows who did and didn't make it. Of course at all Dets if you don't get an EA you arent required to go to LLAB or the AS200 class for the rest of the week, but it's not like you never have to go back there again. You still get an actual grade on your transcript for the AS200 class so you have to start showing up for that again so you don't fail it. Unless of course you decide you can handle an F on your transcript.

I sure would hate to have it announced where those who got EAs go in one room, and those who didn't go in another, and everyone's told that way. If you were in a group that didn't get EAs you'd know that before the cadre member even told you, all you'd have to do is take a look around and see who is in your group. There are ppl for whom it could go either way, but there's always one or two cadets in every class who are for sure not going to make it.

Who knows though, they might do it differently this time. We experienced a turnover with half our cadre this year. Commander is the same, but he's not the one that announces it, the Education Officer does and they're new to the Det. It'll be interesting to say the least.

I sure hope the boards make their final decisions by the end of this week so we can know next week. Otherwise we'll have to contend with over a quarter of the wing (and closer to half of FTP) being out due to crosstown spring breaks the week after next. If that happened I would hope they'd decide then to personally call everyone as opposed to waiting a whole week to tell us all :cool:. My Det is like my second home, I'm always there even on non LLAB days doing work so I chit chat with a lot of the cadre on a regular basis. Idk if I could handle it if they said "Yeah, we have the EA results, we're just waiting til everyone's spring break is over to tell you guys...":bang::bang::bang::bang:.

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Alpha,

Follow up question, does your det also not announce rated slots in front of everyone either? We have a big presentation with music and everything. It's a pretty joyous occasion, everyone's really happy for them. I never actually thought about it before, but I suppose there may be ppl who were set on rated from day one that didn't get it and are trying to mask their disappointment while their classmates are busy celebrating the fact that their dreams of flying are still alive. And what about getting AFSC selections? Cadets can find out what job the got before the cadre announces it, but some don't want to look and see so they wait til their called up in LLAB to find out. Usually everyone either gets their 1st or 2nd choice so their happy but every now and then someone gets pulled for an AFSC that they really didn't want. Just an example that you never want to put anything on your AFSC dream sheet that you're not willing to do.

Does anyone know if it's possible to be pulled for an AFSC that you didn't put on your sheet? I know it's needs of the AF, but they usually try to put ppl where they indicate they want to be.
 
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So far so good, no news of any delays this year yet! DS is going back to school Saturday and hopes to find out on Monday the 24th. Fingers crossed!
 
The best advice I can think of is: "Trust in God and Dreadnought"

Best of luck to all of you!

:shake: Romad
 
Non Ducor Duco, to answer your question from yesterday, it is possible to get assigned an AFSC that you did not put down as one of your choices. In fact, my DS just told me that one cadet at his Det had that happen to him this year. He was assigned to Missiles.
 
I don't think I can recall one positive statement made about Enrollment Allocations for this year, everything's been negative (even had one POC say it would be 20%, :|). From our Commander down to our POC, I have yet to hear something that makes me think it will be a good year.

It is almost difficult in some instances to believe there is hope lol

There is a positive, for as far as we know, slots are not being delayed. When were the cadets informed of the delay last year?
 
It has always been a negative atmosphere the weeks before EA selections. Looking from last years post people have speculated 50% selection when the final results came around the 90s. Even when one max has been taken off I bet it will be more than 20%. I can't really inspire hope but I can say we will have one week left until EA results are given out (In my case, I'm not sure about y'all but if standardization has taught me anything the detachments will give the results on the same timeframe). I don't know about you but I'm really excited for the results to come out. What the two years of hard work have yielded me something or not will be determined in a few days! In my detachment there has been a trend of slacking off and I think having a secure future in the Air Force is the only way to motivate us right now.

Looking at last years thread it looks like they announced the delay on Mar 20 when the EAs were due for release on Mar 22nd. I don't think that there would be a delay for us as the budget has been made. Last year there was some fumbling on the budget for ROTC training but I believe this year they have made the steps by eliminating a Max and having no pay for cadets. The only question this year was how many officer the Air Force needs in FY 2016 and that debate started two weeks ago as scheduled.
 
Capt, I went back and looked at last years thread on EA results and it appears that the delay was first reported on that thread on March 20th. Ironically the results were due out on March 22, like this year. The results were finally released 3 weeks later on April 11th. The sequester was reported to have been the reason for the delay last year, so hopefully this year EA's will be on time!
 
So even if a kid walks on with a scholarship from day one, you have to make the Enrollment Allocation to finish your last two years commission in the Air Force?
 
mbitr said:
So even if a kid walks on with a scholarship from day one, you have to make the Enrollment Allocation to finish your last two years commission in the Air Force?
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Correct. The main drawback of Air Force scholarships is that even with a scholarship you are not given an easy ride to commissioning. You still have to compete with non-scholarship cadets to become an officer.
 
Every time I think the AF guys have it tough, I find out it's actually worse than I thought. I don't think I could accept that kind of risk. Kudos.
 
Last year we were informed on a Wednesday that slots would be delayed at least one week. Unfortunately, the following week was our spring break. Once we returned to school, we were informed that the numbers are still being decided and that slots would be delayed a few more weeks.

Three weeks later on a Wednesday, we were told to schedule an appt with Cadre for Thursday. I scheduled mine for 0900 and had to wait until about 0915 since they were waiting for the email of results, which was supposed to arrive at 0900. Hurry up and wait!

For numbers...there have been wild speculations from 20% seen on these boards to 90%. One thing to note is the number of applicants going up for the board. One of the reasons (from what I heard at least) about the previous two years being 90%+ is because Cadre weeded out FTP cadets to decrease the number of packets getting sent in, thus raising the total % of acceptance.

As far as this year goes, I know a couple of the FTP cadets had their midterm counseling and all that was said was that the board hasn't even met yet.

In addition, FTP cadets who did not pass their AFOQT are still competing and eligible for an EA, but were told it would be delayed a year. In other words, if a cadet received an EA for summer 14 but did not pass their AFOQT, they wouldn't attend FT until summer 15. I haven't heard of any other detachment doing this.
 
This may be a rumor too, but I was told something positive last semester. I was told that the reason they cut the 4th week off and stopped the pay was to keep a higher number of cadets getting EA's. This is just what one POC said, but it was never confirmed by the cadre.

The 200's last year were also told it would be around 50% acceptance but our det got 100%, so stay positive guys hopefully we all get one. We will soon find out!!
 
Vretro said:
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In addition, FTP cadets who did not pass their AFOQT are still competing and eligible for an EA, but were told it would be delayed a year. In other words, if a cadet received an EA for summer 14 but did not pass their AFOQT, they wouldn't attend FT until summer 15. I haven't heard of any other detachment doing this.
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I wouldn't think that would be a decision that would be made at the detachment level.

I know of at least one cadet from my DS's detachment that was retaking his AFOQT this month. From what I understand his EA package went in with the others and provided that he pass the AFOQT this time around AND is awarded an EA he will be attending this summer SFT. Not sure what happened on his 1st AFOQT this cadet has high GPA SAT's and PFA scores...
 
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