AFROTC Field Training EA

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  1. chrystyne

    chrystyne New Member

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    I'm a sophmore at Ohio State and competing for an EA this year.

    My Stats:
    3.3 gpa
    non-tech major
    96 pfa score
    involved in det


    My detachment is pretty big. I think there are 30 200's in my det.

    What are my chances of getting an EA? What is the average gpa cadets have that are non tech majors that make it to field training?
     
  2. Pima

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    The real insight to your chances lie in the historical level that your det usually sends to SFT. Every college/det varies, but overall the national rate is 55% and 3.2/3.3 for non-tech. Your PFT is on the lower end, but not any great shakes to worry about.

    Look at what the stats for LY's selection from your Det., and that really should give you a feeling of what your chances are. Also, if you can't find the out the stats you can look at a couple of other things.

    1. At the end of this past semester most cadets have a review, most commands will tell them how they are ranking out.

    This will help because that is part of the equation for selection. You want to be at least in the top 30%.

    2. If you did not have that review, I believe OSU is a tri-mester college so that may not have occurred yet, than look to see how many 250's are in your det.

    250's will also be your competition, which in essence means you don't have 30 applying you have 30+ whatever in 250's. So if they don't have the stats (%) of the amount that went last yr, they should have the actual number. Remember to add those 250's in because if they say 25 went LY, but now you realize you have 30 + 15 250s, you are back at that national avg of 55%, which is a big difference from the 25 out of 30 200's.

    Sorry that I couldn't give you a thumbs up or down, but I hope you can get a closer chance response by just looking at your own det.

    Finally, right now nobody knows the % that will be allocated for SFT. It could be like the past 2 yrs at 55%, or like it was 3 yrs ago closer to 65%. Nobody will know those answers until have selection. Unfortunately it means about 6 -8 weeks more of nail biting.
     
  3. chrystyne

    chrystyne New Member

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    Thank you. How do you know so much? Are you in the Air Force?
     
  4. Pima

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    No, but I have been with my DH since has was an AFROTC cadet over 25 yrs ago, and than through 21 yrs of the ADAF as a wife of an F-15E WSO, add that to the fact that our DS in May will be commissioned as an O1 UPT slot from AFROTC and I have seen a lot of things from 2nd hand experience. Since, I love my men more than life, I made sure they educated me along the way so we had things to talk about it.

    I use to joke that on my epitaph I only wanted AFAD/DW...anybody in the military would appreciate that sentiment, more than beloved wife and mother.

    And yes, I also can tell you the difference between a missile and a bomb, besides the types like a GBU, plus red air/blue air, 4 V 4, 10 turn 6 turn 2 and all the silly stuff. Hang with them long enough and either you learn about it or find yourself staring at walls while they use their hands to show how the flight went!:rolleyes:
     
  5. danielk5352

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    You're competitive but don't stand out, this is of course because of your non-tech major unfortunately. Your GPA is the median for the selection rate last year. Seeing as how the current 300 class got the short end of the stick for EA's, this year should have more I believe. So I wouldn't worry too much. :smile:
     
  6. Pima

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    daniel, I am not disagreeing with you, but I will say that when you stick around here long enough you will see that the national avg is just that...an avg. Certain colleges historically will have a higher or lower selection rate.

    As I always point out, it was a 55% LY, but VT had closer to 70% selection rate, and there is a poster here or was here, that at their cadet's school had 35%. DS's had 58%. Add those 3 together and you get @55%.

    This is why I feel it is important for her and any cadet or candidate to ask the det what their selection rate is, and not so important to judge it against the national.

    They should also ask the parameters of those selected. Let's face it a 3.2 at one college could be deemed the bottom of the barrel, whereas, at another it could be deemed the cream of the crop. You would not say a 3.2 UP cadet academically is below a 3.5 student from GMU (no insult to GMU, but GMU is not an Ivy). Nobody here knows what OSU parameters are, and a 3.3 could be on their high end for non-tech.

    I am someone who will always be honest with non-techs, but I do so as motivation, because they are constantly told or reminded that they academically have to perform much higher and still will be at risk. It can create a negative cycle. It shouldn't. It should be used as a motivation.

    At the same time I will be realistic.
    75% of tech majors for SFT2011 were selected
    45% of non-tech majors for SFT were selected

    Either way there is no 100% there. Believe it or not, I recall reading the closest to 100% were nursing majors, and they were in he high 80's.

    That illustrates where the manning needs are for the AF. You can take an engineering major and make him a flier or maintenance officer. You can take a non-tech and do the same. You cannot take either one of them and give them nursing as their AFSC. They have specific qualities from an educational standpoint that the AF needs.

    Yes, it was 45% LY for non-tech, and maybe TY it will be 35%, we don't know. All we know is it wasn't 0%, and that means the chance is there.

    Again the PFT is what bothers me. 96 is low and that will be placed into the equation. If you are selected, buckle down now and start training, I mean training!

    Maxwell in July in 100 degree weather and 90% humidity takes a toll on your body. You will live in the field...no AC and comforts of home. If you have never lived in the south, this type of weather feels like you are about to burn your lungs as you take deep breaths. (When DS went they were registering 117 with the heat index). My sister lives in Cincy, I live in No VA., and even on the hottest days it is still not the same because of the humidity...NC comes close. The more you train, properly, the more you will be able to overcome this issue. At DS's school their C200 yr is all about PT for SFT. because they know that it is not uncommon for cadets to have issues with weather acclimation for PT when all of the sudden they are sent to the south. It was drilled so hard into his cranium, that every day before he left he would run at 4/5 p.m for 3 miles because that was the hottest part of the day.

    Your SFT ranking will be a part of your AFSC selection. PFT will be a part of the SFT ranking.

    Good luck.
     

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