AFROTC Rated Boards 2016

Sled said:
Nope, I'm just waiting for the supplemental board. Know anything about that?
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Yep the board sent a ARMS message out and the board meet on 21 Sept and the results are "expected" to be out by 27 Sept.
 
Supplemental results came out this morning... I didn't get picked up.
my stats are
mid 1/3 for both rankings
3.0 GPA
90PCSM
95PFA
 
snork706 said:
Supplemental results came out this morning... I didn't get picked up.
my stats are
mid 1/3 for both rankings
3.0 GPA
90PCSM
95PFA
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Didn't get picked up for Pilot or CSO...Still have an RPA slot though!

GPA 3.4
51 PCSM
94 FA
82 Pilot
74 CSO Score
 
GZ.1 said:
Anyone know if ENJJPT results came out?
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We were all told to come in to see the Col and some of those receiving the email were ENJJPT candidates. Sounds like nobody from the det got a slot on the supplemental and I would assume ENJJPT because they were also called in.
 
Don't be afraid to ask your Det Commander about any opportunities for any rated slots even if the supplemental boards have passed, my buddy and I did in October last year and we got an RPA slot even after the boards had supposedly convened. If you want it badly enough and your cadre see that, they may be able to make something happen, don't give up even if it's an RPA slot!
 
I think you have to wait for a few weeks to see where the slots have settled out for FY17 before a CoC maybe able to assist. USAFA just dropped this week and some of the posters on that thread have stated that their kids asked for UPT as number 1 and got RPA instead. To me that is unusual because traditional thought has always been that if you wanted pilot out of USAFA it was almost guaranteed. Now, who knows maybe they had way too many ask for pilot and that is why posters were getting their 2nd choice or they want to fill up more of the RPA slots since they do have a back log for UPT classes.

JMPO, I would probably ask to go CSO if I talked to the CoC. The reason why is that if you want to xtrain it probably is easier to do since they are not critically manned like the RPAs.
 
cyslas55 said:
Don't be afraid to ask your Det Commander about any opportunities for any rated slots even if the supplemental boards have passed, my buddy and I did in October last year and we got an RPA slot even after the boards had supposedly convened. If you want it badly enough and your cadre see that, they may be able to make something happen, don't give up even if it's an RPA slot!
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I'd have to agree with Pima in that I should probably wait until the slots "settle." What other kind of assistance can they be to me? All I think I can do is cross my fingers for a alternate slot.
 
snork706 said:
Supplemental results came out this morning... I didn't get picked up.
my stats are
mid 1/3 for both rankings
3.0 GPA
90PCSM
95PFA
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You got decent rankings and a 90 PCSM and didn't get picked up for pilot OR CSO??? What? Well great, that bodes well for the spring board then doesn't it...
 
Bird12 said:
You got decent rankings and a 90 PCSM and didn't get picked up for pilot OR CSO??? What? Well great, that bodes well for the spring board then doesn't it...
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This does not correlate with the spring. That is a whole different FY group. The Southwest Regional Commander for AFROTC was at my school recently and I personally got to ask him about next years boards. He says there could be an 50-100 increase in slots. About 500 people from this past spring board received rated slots so that number could reach 600+. I'm a 400 going for the Feb boards so I'm in the same boat. Just get hours and shine in your detachment. PREFERENCES ARE REALLY IMPORTANT. So think very wisely when that rated preferences sheet comes out.
 
I would not equate supplemental release with the upcoming 300 yr group. I would wait and see the overall release for USAFA 17 to see where the dust settles in numbers. USAFA drop was not supplemental, but their 1st drop aka the class of 17.
~That is always the strange thing to me, AFROTC drops before USAFA. AFROTC class of 17 dropped last Mar, or @6 months before USAFA class of 17.
~ Caveat I understand the finesse issue of why...FAA FC1 physical...AFROTC cadets go to WPAFB as rising srs., hence they need to get them out earlier.

In the end the USAFA drop may also show where MPC is looking at from a fulfillment aspect for the future.
 
Pima said:
I would not equate supplemental release with the upcoming 300 yr group. I would wait and see the overall release for USAFA 17 to see where the dust settles in numbers. USAFA drop was not supplemental, but their 1st drop aka the class of 17.
~That is always the strange thing to me, AFROTC drops before USAFA. AFROTC class of 17 dropped last Mar, or @6 months before USAFA class of 17.
~ Caveat I understand the finesse issue of why...FAA FC1 physical...AFROTC cadets go to WPAFB as rising srs., hence they need to get them out earlier.

In the end the USAFA drop may also show where MPC is looking at from a fulfillment aspect for the future.
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Pima haven't you been explaining though on another thread that the AFROTC Spring 2017 board will take a big hit (and presumably raise the difficulty/averages of getting a slot for us current AS 300s) due to OTS getting a larger slice of the pie by that point..?
 
WilB-2 said:
He says there could be an 50-100 increase in slots. About 500 people from this past spring board received rated slots so that number could reach 600+
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I am not disagreeing with that number, but I would be shocked if any of that increase was going to be slotted for Pilot. Hence, why I do agree preference choices matter.
~ Not everyone wants ABM and for all anybody knows that AFSC could be the 50 slot increase.
~~ My DS would rather have flown a desk than be an ABM.

Just saying with the UPT pipeline backed up for @9 mos + before start of UPT, plus increasing the OTS rated board pipeline, I would doubt that the increase from the rated board will be UPT slots. I would be willing to bet that it will be CSO or RPA.
~ Again, waiting to see the true number drop from USAFA. It is interesting to see RPAs drop to PQ cadets with UPT as their top choice.
~~ It just says to me..,odd. A cadet that is already PQ (pilot qual) and gets RPA means it is 1 of 2 things. More USAFA cadets are asking for UPT than have in years passed. Or the RPA pipeline is back up and can take more. FY16 UPT students were told 2 of every class would get RPA for the yr. However, they have not dropped RPAs since late Aug. I am not in the know, but that says to me RPAs are either back on track or the pilot world is in dire need, more so than what us peons reading the news can see.
~~~ I am actually betting on the 1st. Unbeknownst to most peons reading about pilot shortages, while they were dropping 2 RPAs out of every UPT class, Big Blue was also hitting heavy pilots on the VML with RPA assignments as their 2nd tour. They go to xtrain course, instead of the long course, meaning they are operational much faster than a student entering UPT. In essence it means the RPA student pipeline is back on target. Due to that fact they will now have 100 more going manned airframes, and that helps the pilot world by getting their numbers back on track. What it doesn't help is the backlog waiting to go to UPT.
 
Bird12 said:
Pima haven't you been explaining though on another thread that the AFROTC Spring 2017 board will take a big hit (and presumably raise the difficulty/averages of getting a slot for us current AS 300s) due to OTS getting a larger slice of the pie by that point..?
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I never said a big hit. Just a hit bc of the increase. Notice I said that again in my last post.

What I am saying is we need to see what the drop for OTS was for the July board and USAFA to see how it worked out.

Yes, they are increasing the numbers annually, but we don't know the breakdown for rated. Is it more Pilot slots, or the same from years prior with more RPAs?

This is when it becomes tricky and where I 1000% agree with WilB-2. Preferences matter. Think long and hard about this decision. RPA or CSO as your number 2. Realistically, either route you take with a goal of xtraining to pilot is something to really think about. RPA maybe critically manned for 5-10 more years. That means it could be longer to xtrain than if you went CSO. Your commitment though is still the same 9 yrs from winging pilot...UPT is 54 weeks. Drones are the future..do you just do your time like others and go Defense contractor/GS as soon as the commitment is up or do you now sign on for 10 yrs (UPT and winging), in essence it becomes 20 ADAF (retirement)? Do you go CSO with hopes of getting UPT and a fighter earlier?
~ Close friends got CSO. 1 xtrained last yr to RPA, did not apply for UPT. Another is applying for UPT only now. If he gets it, I bet my beloved Myrtle he will get a fighter out of UPT. Why? Because he has been flying a manned airframe for years now. It is two different worlds. He wants a fighter and that is all he wants. You have to think about the long term picture. One day you will be married with kids, and the AF will be over.
~ One of our closest friends for over 2 decades is now a SQ CC for the RPAs. He winged out of ENJJPT many moons ago. Flew with Bullet (my DH) for many years. Has been in the RPA world for @8 yrs. I state this because I do not want anyone to believe that I think less of an RPA pilot than a manned airframe pilot. I don't. I believe in that world so much, I have reached out to that friend and asked him to contact those cadets that got RPAs from a mentoring aspect. He believes in the program that he has happily pm'd those cadets.

Just saying...think about the what if when you rank your options. In the worst case scenario let's say you don't xtrain, and want to bolt at the earliest moment, which career path is best for bolting?
~My DH was WSO, aka now called CSO in the 15E. He never applied for UPT. Never wanted to be a busdriver in the sky. He did 20 ADAF. He is now a GS, and in a great position due to his 20 yr ADAF experience in fighters. However, CSOs are a dieing breeds, whereas, RPAs are really in their infancy.
~~ Think about navigational systems, HUD or SBS aka braking system in your car. Where did that start from? The military. Now look at Amazon starting to deliver packages with drones. 10 yrs from now it will be common impo. Why do you think RPA pilots are leaving at the pace they are currently? My guess is because it is the wave of the future for us peons buying crap on line! These companies will look for RPA pilots, and compared to the Navy or Army, the AF has the most experience impo.

Just my 0.018754 cents and with $2.07 cents more you can get a small Starbucks coffee. Good luck!

Aim High...Above All
 
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I know this is an old thread, but I am still searching for opinions on my stats if anyone has any thoughts PLEASE help me out with your opinion:

PCSM: 52
GPA: 3.19
PFA: 97.3
FT: DG
RSS: Top third
 
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