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[Thompson]

On the other hand, I had an excellent PFT, interview, and was very involved in clubs, athletics, and student office in high school.
What I'm trying to say is that the Air Force looks at the whole picture, not just academics.

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[Strength and Honor]

Fine fine you guys win, I'll apply Im just worried if one branch would question my commitment if they find out I applied for other branches?

 

[kinnem]

Fine fine you guys win, I'll apply Im just worried if one branch would question my commitment if they find out I applied for other branches?

No worries. Many kids apply for multiple scholarships when they would be willing to serve in other services. For example, in some respects Army and Marines are very different, while in others they are quite similar, especially once you're boots on the ground. Also, each service has an aviation arm. Different airframes, but they all fly.

 

[Thompson]

Fine fine you guys win, I'll apply Im just worried if one branch would question my commitment if they find out I applied for other branches?

No, there's nothing wrong with that. As kinnem said many applicants do that - and as you've read, I've done that as well. Remember, these are not enlisted recruiters you are dealing with - who want you to sign up with them to meet their quota. These are officers, who care about your (future) success. IE: Before I locked in with Army, I was with good standing relationships (and still am) with both the Deputy PMS and the AF Admissions officer at the Battalion and Det respectfully. After I told the AF officer of my intention of joining Army, he was still extremely helpful - in that he was willing to help me (and still is) with anything I need --> even though I am going Army.

Re kinnem's comment on airframes - yes both have airframes, one just has [ALOT] more than the other

 

[Pima]

I agree with everyone, especially regarding the WCS. PAR is the majority(60%), but also that is made up several components, and each component carries a specific weight.

In previous yrs the components were:
SAT
CGPA
Class rank
School profile (% go Ivy, 4 yr Private, 4 yr IS, 2 yr, and workforce)

The reason class rank and school profile are included is due to they need to equal out the cgpa on the same playing field. For example one candidate may have a lower cgpa and be top 15%, but when they look at the school profile they see that the school does not hand out A's like candy, with many going to an Ivy. The other candidate may have a much higher cgpa, lower rank and nobody going to an Ivy, hence the rigor is not as competitive.

They also want the profile because they want to see how many APs are offered along with the grading system. Some schools will give any A a 4.0, others will give an exact number...I .E a 95 is a 3.8 Plus, some schools have a 7 pt scale, and some use 10 pt scale.

Plus, there still is 40% left, and if you max out there you would be very competitive.

I too also would not worry about the view that they may see it as a negative if you apply for every ROTC scholarship. I would add in one more reason they are accustom it. Not every college has ROTC on campus and their intended major. Many dets are being combined, and for some x-town can mean 90 min commute each way. Not every cadet/mid wants to go x-town.

This of course is along with what others have stated, this is not only for rated, but also non-rated slots, such as intel. Every branch has intel. The only question that might be is "You have said you are applying for all 3, they all have different missions, have you thought about how different your life will be in each branch once you commission?"

 

[aglages]

Type 7 In state tuition or up to 18K tuition. CANNOT PAY the difference. If above 18K you cannot use it.
~~ 75-80% of all scholarships. 75% are tech.

If awarded a Type 7 and tuition is above 18K, you can convert to a Type 2, for 3 yrs.

Just for clarification:

"type 7 – Pays college tuition up to the equivalent of the in-state rate at a public school and $900 per year for books. If a student receives a Type-7 offer but wishes to attend a college/university where they do not qualify under the guidelines above, the student can convert the four-Year Type-7 scholarship to a three-Year Type-2 scholarship. You cannot activate a Type-7 scholarship at a non-qualifying school and pay the difference."
http://www.afrotc.com/scholarships/high-school/overview/?m=2013rotc&pl=google&med=cpc

There is NOT a limit of 18k on Type 7 Scholarships. If the in-state rate at your public school is greater than 18K the AFROTC Type 7 scholarship will cover the tuition costs. Most in-state public schools have tuition that is less than 18k, but some are higher. My daughter's is over 18k and her Type 7 has covered all of it.

Good luck!

 

[Pima]

My bad. Agagles is correct. I always screw that part up because I keep that 18K in my mind due to the Type 2 limit. I just remember the big difference is you can't pay the difference if it is more. There is a sticky at the top of the page regarding schools that give financial edge to cadets. For example TAMU, if you are in the Corps qualify you for IS rates even if you are OOS.

One thing for cadets to realize if they convert to a Type 2 3 yr., tuition has risen for yrs and yrs, some schools as much as 10% or more. If you need that money to attend, and this yr it is already at 17K, be prepared for the bill be at 20K in 2 yrs. and 25K+ by the time you graduate.

Our DD attends a flagship IS college, from her freshman yr to her jr yr. it has already increased over 30%. I haven't received this yrs bill yet, but I expect another 10%. What they charge this yr. will most likely not be the amount you will pay next yr as a freshman.

Good luck to all, let the fun times begin.

 

[SuaSponte]

This question doesn't really need it's own thread so I will pose it here. On the scholarship application there are 7 steps to begin it looks like, after you submit them do you get to the part where you submit your actual credentials? I would assume so because there is nothing there so far. Also, can you change things from it (like major) after you submit that first part?

 

[aglages]

This question doesn't really need it's own thread so I will pose it here. On the scholarship application there are 7 steps to begin it looks like, after you submit them do you get to the part where you submit your actual credentials? I would assume so because there is nothing there so far. Also, can you change things from it (like major) after you submit that first part?

SuaSponte: Although AFROTC tweaks the application process each year, I'm confident that it will become obvious when you need to submit your "actual credentials". Sorry....I can't remember where in the process that is required....just that there wasn't any question what needed to be done.

As far as changing majors: I would choose carefully and stick with whichever major I put on my application. I know/understand how difficult that is for a 17/18 year old but once (if) you are awarded an HSSP Scholarship it is almost impossible to change. So select carefully now and move forward with your application.

Good Luck!

 

[SuaSponte]

SuaSponte: Although AFROTC tweaks the application process each year, I'm confident that it will become obvious when you need to submit your "actual credentials". Sorry....I can't remember where in the process that is required....just that there wasn't any question what needed to be done.

As far as changing majors: I would choose carefully and stick with whichever major I put on my application. I know/understand how difficult that is for a 17/18 year old but once (if) you are awarded an HSSP Scholarship it is almost impossible to change. So select carefully now and move forward with your application.

Good Luck!

Thanks, and yes it is a little hard choosing major right now so I'll probably think about it a bit more.

 

[Pima]

To add onto Agagles's post regarding majors.

80-85% are tech. It is not hard on a whole to change from a non-tech to a tech major, but it is almost impossible to change from a tech to a non-tech. Once in you need approval.

I recall a yr or two ago, a cadet had a tech major, (think it was computers) decided to stay in the computer field, but now AFROTC considered it non-tech.

Additionally, certain majors are considered critically manned. Electrical Eng. and Nurses come to mind. That degree can impact your career options.

 

[Thompson]

This question doesn't really need it's own thread so I will pose it here. On the scholarship application there are 7 steps to begin it looks like, after you submit them do you get to the part where you submit your actual credentials? I would assume so because there is nothing there so far. Also, can you change things from it (like major) after you submit that first part?

As far as the applications go - from what I remember, once you submit it - you cannot go back and change it. But then again, if AFROTC changes things each year, you could very well be able to do so.