AFROTC to ANG?

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  1. Winner

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    I'm currently a 300 cadet in Air Force ROTC, and am just looking at all of my options. I'll talk to my cadre later, but just wanted to post here first because I basically have no idea about this.

    Is it possible to commission from AFROTC and go directly to an ANG unit? I know many of the ANG positions are part time, but i'm looking for full time. Is that plausible, or am I looking at this all wrong?

    Also, I'm competing for a pilot slot this year. If I get one, can I "transfer" that over to an ANG unit?


    I apologize if I'm all over the place, I just know nothing about the ANG.


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  2. Pima

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    You would have to get two approvals and that is where the difficulty lies.

    You would need to get approval from HQ to go to the Guard. For the class of 14/15 it seems that they are allowing this to occur. The reason why is for these two year groups the AF has decided they have too many O1 s coming on board for AD. The question is if 16 will be releasing cadets like they currently are offering.

    The way the Guard works is more like a civilian employer. Each unit interviews and hires their personnel. Thus, even if ADAF releases you, you will need them to hire you.

    Even if you got a pilot slot out of AFROTC, there would still have to be an opening for an O1 at the units you apply to because they have their own personnel numbers and boards. It would help that you have the slot, but it is not a guarantee that they will have an opening.
     
  3. Winner

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    We just had two 400's at my detachment leave the program because they decided the AF wasn't for them. This is what the Air Force wants right now, correct? Cadets voluntarily leaving or going into the reserves.

    However, neither of those cadets had a rated slot. So I imagine if they did have one, the AF would not have allowed them to leave so easily.

    So, if I do get a pilot slot, can I apply to an ANG, get accepted, and just continue to IFS/UPT as usual? Does the 10 year commitment still apply for pilots if you're in the ANG?
    Or, will I need to be fully released from AFROTC (like the other cadets) and then apply for an ANG position?
     
  4. Pima

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    No, if you get a pilot slot it doesn't translate that it will transfer over. Your pilot slot is coming out of ADAF. You would compete for any airframe that is in the AF. Whereas, with the Guard, you will enter knowing the specific air frame you will fly upon winging.

    You would go to UPT to match up with their needs. I.E. UPT is @55 weeks long. Then you will also still need water and land survival, add on another 6 weeks. If they need you in July, than they may send you in May, whereas, for ADAF they are going to look at filling the classes and you may land up waiting until Sept. Or vise a verse.
    ~ The point is they operate as different entities.

    It really is going to come down IMPO on how many O1 slots they have available.

    The upside is you will enter knowing what airframe you will receive. The downside is it is competitive, and you might have to apply to multiple units and multiple boards before you find a unit. The issue going for you is that all of the Guard units would already know ADAF awarded you a pilot slot already so it might help you.

    The question that is really going to be is how AFROTC releasing is now going to impact the Guard/reserve units? Will they have no room there after two years of AFROTC releasing cadets?

    I don't know the commitment time frame for Guard. I would suggest you go baseops.net and pose your question over there.
     

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