Alleged Rape by cadet at college party

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Lynpar,

I agree with you that it truly may be alcohol related, and maybe the victim is embarrassed, thus it being so out of the normal behavior they truly believe they were drugged.

I am not saying she wasn't, I am saying that according to studies, the percentage of women who believed they were drugged have been proven to be alcohol consumption.

Alcohol remains the most commonly used date rape drug, being readily available as well as legal. Many assailants use alcohol because their victims often willingly imbibe it, and can be encouraged to drink enough to lose inhibitions or consciousness. Even if the victim agrees to sex, the act may be considered rape in some jurisdictions if the victim's judgment was impaired or incapacitated by alcohol. Some assailants have committed "rapes of convenience" whereby they have assaulted a victim after he or she had become unconscious from drinking too much. A study in the UK found that only 2 percent of a pool of 1,014 rape victims had their drinks spiked with sedatives. Another UK study of 75 patients, most of them women, who thought their drinks had been tampered with in pubs or clubs found that none had been given a surreptitious drug. They had simply become intoxicated. Similarly, a 2009 Australian study concluded that, of 97 patients admitted to hospital claiming to have had their drinks spiked, none had in fact been drugged.

Of course this is a double edge sword since many women do not report the assault believing they were too drunk.

In the end, I think everyone agrees that even if she was drunk, it was an assault, but one that legally would be near impossible to prove.
 
In the end, I think everyone agrees that even if she was drunk, it was an assault, but one that legally would be near impossible to prove.
I am a long way from believing this young lady was assaulted based on what few facts we have seen on this thread. I would be at least one less than everyone. Perhaps she assaulted the drunk boy.
 
Folks, we're not the judge and jury and no one here has, or is likely to obtain, the evidence needed to make such a determination.

There is an "alleged victim," as the press is so fond of saying. Let's leave it at that and not debate whether or not a criminal act occurred.
 
Folks, we're not the judge and jury and no one here has, or is likely to obtain, the evidence needed to make such a determination.

There is an "alleged victim," as the press is so fond of saying. Let's leave it at that and not debate whether or not a criminal act occurred.

True, the best possible use for the information on this unfortunate incident is to inform any college(or high school) girls of the dangers of drinking from a beverage you did not open or prepare yourself and never let it leave your plain line of sight. My own DD was subjected to "Mom's Drinking School" prior to leaving for college -- simple, let her consume 2-3-4 beverages in my care so she could gauge the affects on her ability levels. She did not drink in high school and I wasn't sending a complete innocent out into the college scene. She turns 21 this Sunday(10/30) and is coming home to celebrate with our family and a few college friends.

Now, for the boys in college, consider carefully who you select to have relations with - if she says yes under the influence of alcohol, legally she could still claim a rape or assault occured. DS has heard this message repeatedly - reminded him this week in light of this thread and also the OU famous Halloween bash is this weekend(oh, shucks, he has Guard drill off campus...:shake:) so I want him to remember it isn't just underage that could derail his dream of being an officer, a misplaced hand(or other body part...)could also get him in a world of trouble.

Please do not think because I put in a few humerous comments that I feel this young woman's situation is at all comical, what she believes may have happened to her is actually more important than what actually may have or have not taken place. I continue to hope she is getting help from the professionals available to her and she regains some peace of mind.
 
They also often don't report because they were drinking underage.

This is no reason NOT to report an assault. These days most schools - including the SA's - have a policy that protects victims when reporting a crime. Most college also have Good Samaritan policies that allow students who have broken a regulation (like underage drinking) to secure medical assistance for a student who is in trouble.

BEING INTOXICATED IS NOT PERMISSION FOR SOMEONE TO ASSAULT YOU.


I vote that all of aglages' posts on this thread be deleted. They are offensive, demeaning and add nothing to the discussion at hand.
 
I think this thread has outlived its usefulness. Thus, I'm closing it. If anyone believes the issues need to be revisited, you're free to start a new thread.
 
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