Anyone applicants from the 10th congressional district in VA?

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  1. Peter

    Peter Member

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    Just want to see how competitive my congressional district is...a couple people have stated that it is.
     
  2. Iwheel

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    10th and 11th districts are competitive.

    However, because the applicants are of high quality, once nominated, a lot of them get appointed. So your chance of getting in is very high if you can pass the nomination hurdle. Here are some numbers.

    For Class 2014:

    The 11th District:

    19 students will attend West Point, 12 will attend the U.S. Air Force Academy, 11 will attend the Naval Academy and five will attend the U.S. Merchant Marine Academy.

    The 10th District:

    Anna Lan of McLean, a senior at Thomas Jefferson High School for Science & Technology, has been appointed to the United States Military Academy, and James Gimbert of McLean, a student at Langley High School, has been appointed to the U.S. Naval Academy. They are among 14 students from the 10th Congressional District who have received appointments to the nation’s service academy, according to U.S. Rep. Frank Wolf (R-10th).

    Go Army!
     
  3. Peter

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    Well the thing is, if too many kids get appointed, wouldn't there be fewer nomination slots for future students to get appointed? Because I'm not sure how many of them are still in the service academies, or if any of them graduated yet. I know the regimental executive officer right now, who hails from the 10th district, is at West Point in his last year, so he should graduate this year just in time. But will there still be enough slots? That's what I'm concerned about.
     
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    That doesn't really matter...the process is much more involved...search the threads and find the process explained, and you will have a clearer understanding.
     
  5. AKH

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    I'm from the 11th District.

    10th/11th just has a very high concentration of military families. Thanks for that info elan_xu! Good to know.
     
  6. Iwheel

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    They must have high concentration of military families and some good high schools, and excellent kids. I don't know if any other districts have that many appointees in a given year.

    To make up those numbers, they must have captured almost all the nomination slots from the 2 Senators + their representative. And once nominated, they get almost 100% appointed?

    Peter,
    I don't have the data on how many applied and the credentials of the nominated. But I know too many kids got appointed will not affect next year's slots. It simply shows the quality of the nominated. They can't use next year's slots this year as far as I know. If Frank Wolf nominates 10 kids all of whom got appointed, only 1 will be charged against the 5 slots he has. The remaining 9 will not even though they are from his district. Hope this helps.
     
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  7. Peter

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    Alright, so if he only has 5 slots, and only 1 will be charged, what slots do the other 9 appointed get charged for? Do Northern Virginia students make up most, if not, all the other Senator slots also in the entire state of Virginia? Because if so, that's pretty incredible.
     
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    There's not much else in the rest of Virginia as you may know haha... Or maybe that's just my biased NoVA mindset!

    Since there's so many military dependents applying from VA-10/11 I am willing to bet those who don't get appointed with a Congressional nomination or without LOAs are helped by a Presidential nom.
     
  9. Peter

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    Yea, unfortunately us NoVA people are kind of biased...although it's probably true anyway. NoVA should be a separate state......I'm only kidding.

    Anyway, I hope the majority of them go for Presidential noms.
     
  10. Iwheel

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    Peter,

    Yeah, he only gets charged 1 or how many are available to him that year. The other 9 will be put on the national waiting list. This is not the same WL from a civilian college. By law, West Point must admit 150+ kids off of the list. There are some other rules to how many more (thus the + sign) and who these appointees are.

    After all, it is estimated that about 700-800 appointees have "normal" nominations, 200-300 have service and other nominations. These still make up only about 1000 kids, the remaining 300 come off the national waiting list. So if you can get on the national waiting list, you don't have to be #1 in your MOC's list to be appointed. My son was on it. He received his appointment not charged to our MOC.

    In order to yield 1300 new cadets, West point sends out close to 1600 appointments.

    I have always thought that the whole state of Virgina is strong militarily, ever since the revolution and even before the civil war. Visits to Richmond and its museums gave me a strong sense of that.
     
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    2010 10th District:
    Appointments from Congressman's nominations (not from Senators/VP/Presidential/Service):

    West Point (5):
    1) Anna Lan of McLean (Thomas Jefferson High School for Science and Technology),
    2) Greg Mathieson of Centreville (Westfield High School),
    3) Robert Mayville of Manassas (Osbourn High School),
    4) Alex Sauer of Herndon (Westfield High School) and
    5) Evan Winfrey of Oak Hill (Westfield High School).

    U.S. Air Force Academy (3):
    6) Maria Babauta of Manassas (Battlefield High School),
    7) John Davis of Manassas (Osbourn High School) and
    8) Ashleigh Hammer of Round Hill (Loudoun Valley High School)

    U.S. Naval Academy include (4):
    9) Allyn Bennett of Sterling (Deerfield Academy in Massachussetts),
    10) James Gimber of McLean (Langley High School),
    11) Marcus Perez of Manassas (Osbourn High School) and
    12) Mario Mastriano of Centreville (Centreville High School)

    U.S. Merchant Marine Academy (2):
    13) Christopher Anthony of Chantilly (Chantilly High School) and
    14) Alex Maney of Ashburn (Briar Woods High School)
     
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  12. Peter

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    Interesting. Thank you very much for the statistics. Do you also live in the 10th/11th district?

    Interesting. One of my friends is attending the Air Force Academy Class of 2014...I guess she didn't get a nomination from the Congressman because her name isn't listed on this list. Alex Maney, however, I do know. He got in because he's really good at soccer, so that was his outlet.

    That's very interesting. Where did you get this list from?
     
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    Peter,

    We live in DC area, wanted to give you some support here (info) now that son is away at Beast.

    If you move north 10 miles, cross that famous river, your chance of getting a nomination increases. If you move north 40 miles, your chance increases further more (only for wp, not true for navy), lol.
     
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    Well I thank you for your support. I much appreciate it :). Hope your son is having a blast at Beast, haha.

    Although I find it truly amazing how only moving a few miles away from this place significantly increases your chance of getting a nomination.
     
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    The #1 and #2 most competitive districts are 2 NoVa districts. #3 is my Congressional District. For the class of 2013, we had 14 go to West Point (out of 24 total for the state). 10 of the 14 were from my fair city alone. We also have a lot of military families, including a lot of WP grads (someone told me that there are 500 Old Grads living here). So how can one Congressional District send so many to West Point? Let's assume that the 2 Senators and our Congressional Representative only had one slot open for that year. That is 3 spots. How can 14 get in? Well, the important thing is to get on their slate. Just be one of their 10. Only 3 will be credited with those spots (one per MOC). So what happens to the others? If you have a LOA and are DoDMERB qualified and pass the CFA, then all you need is the nomination to get the appointment. You have a nomination if you are on the slate. I think that that is the part that confuses people the most. You HAVE a nomination if you are on one MOC's slate! A nomination is not just the one person who gets credited for the MOC's slot. There are 9 others that can still get an appointment because they are on the slate. One of our former Congressional Representatives for our district said that he usually had 9 of the 10 on his slate get appointments.

    After the MOC's spots are selected and the LOA's are pulled off the slate what happens to the rest? The infamous NWL.

    The nomination process is very complex. This is an overly, overly simplified explanation. I didn't get into the 3 types of slates the MOC's can use.

    IT IS VERY IMPORTANT TO APPLY TO ALL NOMINATING SOURCES THAT YOU ARE QUALIFIED FOR!!!!!

    Don't assume that because you have a Presidential that you will get one of the 100 spots that get in on that type of nomination.
    Don't assume that your JROTC unit nomination is a sure thing. There are only 20 that get in on that nomination.

    Bottom line is that you don't have to understand all of the intricacies of nominations. Just apply to all of the nominating sources that you are qualified for. That is all you can do. Let West Point handle the rest, but give them every nominating source possible to find a spot for you!
     
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    Thank you. I will certainly pursue all nominating sources that are available for me. Although the nomination process is very complicated, you explained it really well, as so did elan_xu.
     
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    Contact your MALO or your regional commander for statistics...I think they would be happy to provide them to you
     
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    Remember that the 49 people appointed to SA this year from 11th district can include Presidential Nominations also. DS received a Presidential Nom for 2013 and he was included in the list of 2013 appointees from 11th district, but never even had an interview as he received his appointment in Oct of his senior year.
     
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    Oh wow, that must have been exciting for you guys to receive an appointment offer that early.
     

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