Anyone still waiting out there?

Wow - 20,602 applications!

Got to wonder what the USNA considers to be an application? Does that mean that many actually get a candidate number and complete the entire application?
 
No

Judging from previous discussions on this forum, USNA considers anybody that completes a preliminary application or applies to NASS as an applicant. They don't need to complete the application or receive a candidate number.
 
USNA expects a few hundred to decline the offer, so they will offer more appointments than there are spots in the class, usually somewhere around 1400-1500.

The academy has a good statistical database about how many rejections they can anticipate. But past data is probably not very accurate in today's economic climate. My guess is that the rejection rate will be unprecedentedly low just as the retention rate within the military is unprecedentedly high. Things are skewed across the board.

My guess is that the academy will be very careful not to get too many acceptances as they have spots available for the class of 2016. They will probably send out offers of appointment in a much more metered manner than in the past.
 
Just for show

Judging from previous discussions on this forum, USNA considers anybody that completes a preliminary application or applies to NASS as an applicant. They don't need to complete the application or receive a candidate number.

Seems the 20,000+ number is just for show then. Wonder why they would do that?
 
Seems the 20,000+ number is just for show then. Wonder why they would do that?

Comparing what it takes to apply to a service academy to what it takes to apply to a regular college is like comparing apples and oranges.

If the Naval Academy only counted those who fully completed their application to the Naval Academy it would be equally as misleading.

The information you give the academy to simply get accepted to NASS is about the same as the amount of information you have to give to a regular college to fully apply.

If a student only goes HALFWAY through the academy's application process, that is probably TWENTY times the amount of work to FULLY apply to most other institutions.

Unlike most universities, the service academies make the application process, in itself, as a monumental hurdle and an indication of commitment.

Just think of all the effort and paperwork generated just to secure a nomination! NOTHING like that exists for civilian universities.

How many universities require an extensive medical exam (DoDMERB)? How many universities require its applicants to demonstrate their physical fitness (CFA)? How many universities do not permit applicants to choose WHO gives the university a recommendation (11th grade English and Math teacher)? What university has anything remotely as extensive as the academy's Candidate Information System? Hell, some universities do not even require a personal statement of any kind.

I would estimate that you can apply online to 80% (probably higher) of most universities, in a single sitting. Don't forget to mail them a check, though!
 
Whoever told you that, lied.

There is a little checkbox on the application to mark if you're applying to service academies and other ROTC programs. My recruiters didn't seem to care that I applied to USNA and USMA, and they never brought it up. I still got a scholarship.

Well then I guess mine lied because I lost the scholarship. It's long gone.
 
I wasn't accepted until April 8th. It was painstaking at the time...but very rewarding thereafter...
 
the wait is so hard! i'm a re-applicant and it seems harder this time around... the number of admissions already given out is quite discouraging as well :eek:
 
I too have a hard time believing that the academy has already offered that many appoints so early in the said "appointment season." There was another topic posted on 2/29 that said 300 had been sent out. Even though some will reject the offer 1,021 of said 1300-1400 still seems a bit high at this time. I could be completely wrong. I would like to know what source that information was received from and when.
 
I too have a hard time believing that the academy has already offered that many appoints so early in the said "appointment season." There was another topic posted on 2/29 that said 300 had been sent out. Even though some will reject the offer 1,021 of said 1300-1400 still seems a bit high at this time. I could be completely wrong. I would like to know what source that information was received from and when.

That was posted by someone with unofficial information from 'persons who would know.'

I have a hard time believing they already offered that many already...

I believe the DOA is THE source for admissions information. It's March 9th, this number makes sense. It's definitely not over, just hang in there. All the best to those waiting!

Dean Latta, the dean of admissions, noted a significant increase in the number of students who already have indicated they will attend. The academy has offered admission to 1,021 students, and 369 students already have accepted.


http://www.hometownannapolis.com/ne...Academy-applications-on-track-for-record.html
 
Well then I guess mine [recruiter] lied because I lost the scholarship. It's long gone.
I am truly sorry to hear that CadetMoore.

I am confused by your posts on this. How did you lose your Scholarship? Did you receive a Scholarship award for NROTC - Marine Option and then formally decline it? Did you receive a Scholarship award and fail to accept it by the deadline given in the Award letter? *or* are you saying that post-Award letter somebody in the NROTC - Marine Option chain of command noticed you had applied to USNA and unilaterally withdrew your Award after offering it? If this, did they discuss with you at all prior to withdrawing the Award?

If either of the first two, had you spent time in the ROTC section of this website you would have learned that Accepting your NROTC - Marine Option Scholarship is non-binding. You can change your mind up until the first day of school in the Fall (technically until the first day of your 2nd year of school wrt Contracting). Accepting the NROTC - Marine Option scholarship would not have interfered in any way with your application to USNA, or if you applied to USMA or USAFA.

If the last possibility... I hadn't heard of that before. I hope that isn't true.
 
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^^^^ dunninla,
From reading through the entire thread it seems that CadetMoore was made to choose between his NROTC MO scholarship or waiting to hear from the Academy. The recruiter told him he had to choose and if he chose the NROTC scholarship it could not be superceded by an offer from the Academy. Either the NROTC recruiter misled him (I'm being polite), or something has radically changed, which I suppose could be the case given the budget situation. CadetMorre's award must have been one of the few from the first NROTC MO board. Personally though I lean toward a misinformed, or mininforming, recruiter.
 
Personally though I lean toward a misinformed, or mininforming, recruiter.

When I applied for the NROTC Scholarship last year I was "misled" by a Navy recruiter, the results of which ended with me not being able to even compete for the scholarship. Needless to say, I was disappointed, and that behavior by recruiters for NROTC is not uncommon...I'm not surprised if this occurred CadetMoore's case.

Earlier this year as well, the former OSA at my recruiting station demanded that I apply to either the Naval Academy OR PLC, that I could not apply to both. Luckily, he has since rotated out, and the new group is much more sympathetic to those looking at the Academy.

CadetMoore, I'm sorry to hear that this happened to you. I hope that your situation will be mitigated by an SA appointment.
 
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I'm new to the forum so forgive my ingorance. In a comment above it mentions "slate review". What is that? Or is is suppose to be "state review"? Is anyone else still waiting to hear in MN? I know some offers have gone out in Mid Feb.
 
^^^^ dunninla,
From reading through the entire thread it seems that CadetMoore was made to choose between his NROTC MO scholarship or waiting to hear from the Academy... budget situation.
Wow, that sucks. I don't think it is a budget issue. USNA decisions are mostly done by mid April, so it's not that hard for NROTC - Marine Option to wait until then to see if an Awardee gets into USNA and accepts that appointment over the NROTC scholarship.

If applicants are being forced to abandon awarded Scholarships to NROTC - Marine Option to be eligible to wait to hear from USNA, that is dreadful indeed, and quite heavy handed. OK kid, TAKE IT OR LEAVE IT!!! in the best drill sergeant voice.

**edit** OK, I now went back to the first two pages and I see what you mean kinnem.

If I were cadetMoore, I'd be on the phone to that recruiter's chain of command, all the way up to Pensacola (or wherver Marine Option NROTC is housed), to determine if that recruiter's actions were legal. I can't believe that is policy.

Here's where I get confused. When my DD applied NROTC - Navy Option in April, 2010, there was no recruiter involved initially. An NROTC recruiter contacted her after she completed the application. This was not a Navy recruiter, but an NROTC recruiter. It sounds like CadetMoore inadvertently hooked up with a Marine recruiter, not an NROTC - Marine Option recruiter, and things went sideways.
 
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It generally has been accepted that offers from any of the service programs, Army, Air Force, Navy, academies or ROTC could be accepted and sat upon until the candidate was sure which offer was going to be accepted and the others should then be advised of the decision. From a practical perspective, what whould the rejected program do to the candidate? Seize him/her from the program that won out and exact punishment? Haven't heard of such an instance in the twenty years I have been a BGO and twelve years as an AC. This points out why it is important to communicate with all the elements involved before making a decision to withdraw from a program or decline an offer.
 
Here's where I get confused. When my DD applied NROTC - Navy Option in April, 2010, there was no recruiter involved initially. An NROTC recruiter contacted her after she completed the application. This was not a Navy recruiter, but an NROTC recruiter. It sounds like CadetMoore inadvertently hooked up with a Marine recruiter, not an NROTC - Marine Option recruiter, and things went sideways.

I think it depends. I got regular Navy recruiters. The only time an NROTC officer was supposed to be directly involved was for my interview, and he was not there that day. In the end I was interviewed by a Senior Chief who happened to be in the office, and I never got to meet a single officer in the entire process.

But on the Marine side I believe there is much interaction with an Officer Selection Officer, which makes CadetMoore's situation a bit more fishy. I can't imagine an OSO being that misinformed or that inclined to misinform.
 
We are in the same boat, anxiously waiting. I suspect many others fall in this category. My DS finished his USNA packet in Aug and received a Senator (Texas) nomination in Nov. We live in TX-26, which does not duplicate nominations. No other status updates.

In the meantime he received a 4-year Marine Corps ROTC Scholarship to Rice and a full academic scholarship.
TX-26 with a Senator Nomination received in November as well. Still waiting.
 
Anyone know when then send out TWEs?

I'm curious if anyone knows if a lot of TWEs have already gone out or do those come closer to April 15? Trying to guesstimate the odds of an appt. at this point. Have a competitive nom from rep. and a Pres. Nom. I'm not very good at playing the waiting game.
 
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