AP Tests List West Point

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  1. Korzan2

    Korzan2 New Member

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    Hey everybody,
    I was accepted into West Point for the class of 2015 and I am wondering which AP tests i should take to help me to validate my classes! I know that only certain AP tests work and that they don't guarantee validation but I was wondering if there is a specific list somewhere (couldn't find one on the dean's site) or someone who has already gone through beast can tell me which tests I should take this May.
     
  2. vampsoul

    vampsoul Candidate

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    History: need a 5 to validate plebe history
    English: use AP score and will take an additional test to validate EN101
    Chemistry: possible to validate or get into advanced chem with AP score and a high score on plebe placement test.
    Calculus: can validate single variable calculus with AP score and score on plebe placement test
    Psychology: can get into advanced; no validation

    I believe I hit everything.
     
  3. AKH

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    If you don't mind, vampsoul, could you hit on IT/languages?
     
  4. Peter

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    vampsoul, what about college credit? My AP scores for Calculus weren't exactly remarkable but I was able to earn an A average last semester in college for Calculus I. In addition, I never took AP Chemistry in high school, but also earned an A average last semester in General Chemistry. Could I use these to validate, along with the plebe placement test?
     
  5. vampsoul

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    Assuming you do as well in Calc II and do well on the summer placement test, you should be able to validate single variable calc. As far as chem goes, you won;t validate, but with a good grade on the chem placement test you can get into advanced, which is what I am in. It is worth it, because you take the same tests but move more quickly, do lab reports, and have field trips that the general chem classes do not do. Such as, at the end of the month we are going to the NY nuclear power plant for a day. We had to hand in a security clearance for for it; I'm excited!
     
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    linkgmr Old Grad

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    The only things you want to validate are Chem and English. Chem gets you a shorter class and more time, and English is...well...English.
     
  7. vampsoul

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    You may be able to get into advanced language classes, but you can't validate. Everyone must take 2 semesters of language; 4 if you're a history, foreign area, social science, or english major.

    Not sure about IT. I have not heard of anyone validating it. Halfway through they resection to make classes of people with the same skill level.
     
  8. jasondavid92

    jasondavid92 USMA Cadet

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    So what do you get if you validate history?
     
  9. Peter

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    I wish I could validate English. Although I got a 4 on the AP Lang exam, I was able to receive credit for both semesters of freshman English at Tech...doesn't really work the same way at West Point.
     
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    synapse USMA Appointee 2015

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    Anyone know anything about IB tests? I'm taking IB History HL, and as a prospective history major I'm hoping I can take some mid/upper-level classes sooner rather than later.

    Also any word on validating physics with an AP Physics C score?
     
  11. vampsoul

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    I have heard that it is hard to validate physics, harder than validating chem, which is fairly hard, but it is possible.

    I would argue against not validating for the sake of taking easier classes. I enjoy my advanced classes and they involve less busy work. Plebe history is a time suck, and even though I want to major in American History, I'm glad I validated out. Also, testing into a higher math means you only have to take 3 semesters of math, not four. Thanks to validation I get to start my major a semester early.
     
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    Casey USMA 2015

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    With the history class, is a 5 all you need on the AP test or is there a placement test that goes along with it that you also have to take to validate the class?
     
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    jasondavid92 USMA Cadet

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    And what if you have multiple fives on history?
     
  14. Peter

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    vampsoul, what math are you taking this year if you got both Calculus's validated?

    And how is the math you're taking? Is it difficult?
     
  15. vampsoul

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    A 5 on an AP History exam will get it validated for you. Since only 1 year of history is required besides mil art, multiple 5s will get you nothing more than 1.

    I took multivariable calculus (calc III) first semester and am now in differential equations. It's challenging but not difficult, and the teachers are very approachable and available for AI (additional instruction/help).
     
  16. Korzan2

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    Ok thanks for the help everyone. So what I am hearing is Calculus BC, any History, Chemistry, Psychology, and either English AP test can help to validate a subject, while language and IT requirements depend only on how well you do at West Point. So there is no point in me taking the Government, Economics, Physics, or Music Theory AP tests since they won't help me validate anything at all?
     
  17. Peter

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    I would definitely try to take AP Physics. Even if it doesn't validate anything, you will certainly use the concepts you learn from the class again in college physics. Right now, I'm taking college physics and it's pretty difficult. I wish I took AP Physics in high school.
     

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